Listeroid Diesels

[Nicholas Carey]

Kevin Kelly (of Wired Magazine and Whole Earth fame/Coevolution Quarterly/Whole Earth Review fame) posted this link on his blog regarding new-manufacture clones (listeroids) of old Lister Diesels:

http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001011.php



8hp, 850 RPM for less than $1000 it looks like. Should be good for the right sort of boat.

[Nicholas Carey]

Kevin Kelly (of Wired Magazine and Whole Earth fame/Coevolution Quarterly/Whole Earth Review fame) posted this link on his blog regarding new-manufacture clones (listeroids) of old Lister Diesels:

http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001011.php



8hp, 850 RPM for less than $1000 it looks like. Should be good for the right sort of boat.

[Nicholas Carey]

Kevin Kelly (of Wired Magazine and Whole Earth fame/Coevolution Quarterly/Whole Earth Review fame) posted this link on his blog regarding new-manufacture clones (listeroids) of old Lister Diesels:

http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/001011.php



8hp, 850 RPM for less than $1000 it looks like. Should be good for the right sort of boat.

[AlanL]

I especially like the video at Rocketboy.com . Haven't seen anyone convert one for marine use though. They'd be great for turning a big prop slow.

Alan

Edited to add: I'm thinkin' direct drive, 1-to-1 gearbox or a simple clutch to disengage the prop.

[ 01-26-2006, 11:46 PM: Message edited by: AlanL ]

[AlanL]

I especially like the video at Rocketboy.com . Haven't seen anyone convert one for marine use though. They'd be great for turning a big prop slow.

Alan

Edited to add: I'm thinkin' direct drive, 1-to-1 gearbox or a simple clutch to disengage the prop.

[ 01-26-2006, 11:46 PM: Message edited by: AlanL ]

[AlanL]

I especially like the video at Rocketboy.com . Haven't seen anyone convert one for marine use though. They'd be great for turning a big prop slow.

Alan

Edited to add: I'm thinkin' direct drive, 1-to-1 gearbox or a simple clutch to disengage the prop.

[ 01-26-2006, 11:46 PM: Message edited by: AlanL ]

[TomF]

For the right boat ...

I'd talked to one of the sellers of Listeroids one time - he thought it was mad to put one in a boat ... too big. On the other hand, if sited low enough down, all that weight could be ballast.

[TomF]

For the right boat ...

I'd talked to one of the sellers of Listeroids one time - he thought it was mad to put one in a boat ... too big. On the other hand, if sited low enough down, all that weight could be ballast.

[TomF]

For the right boat ...

I'd talked to one of the sellers of Listeroids one time - he thought it was mad to put one in a boat ... too big. On the other hand, if sited low enough down, all that weight could be ballast.

[seedtick]

Heavy, low rpm imboard marine engines were popular in the Atchafalaya Basin from the 1900-1940's. Here's a picture of one built in 1920 with an 8 Hp Lockwood Ash gas engine.



Here's a couple of "newer" ones

[seedtick]

Heavy, low rpm imboard marine engines were popular in the Atchafalaya Basin from the 1900-1940's. Here's a picture of one built in 1920 with an 8 Hp Lockwood Ash gas engine.



Here's a couple of "newer" ones

[seedtick]

Heavy, low rpm imboard marine engines were popular in the Atchafalaya Basin from the 1900-1940's. Here's a picture of one built in 1920 with an 8 Hp Lockwood Ash gas engine.



Here's a couple of "newer" ones

[Kermit]

I'm thinkin' one of those things running 24/7 driving a genset and a hydralic pump to run everything from prop to winches...

Life could be good.

[Kermit]

I'm thinkin' one of those things running 24/7 driving a genset and a hydralic pump to run everything from prop to winches...

Life could be good.

[Kermit]

I'm thinkin' one of those things running 24/7 driving a genset and a hydralic pump to run everything from prop to winches...

Life could be good.

[AlanL]

I'd talked to one of the sellers of Listeroids one time - he thought it was mad to put one in a boat ... too big.

Yeah, well that is true, and having so much iron would need a good cooling system. It looked like they rely on convection to move water through the water jacket, so there'd be extra hardware required.

On the other hand, if sited low enough down, all that weight could be ballast.

That's what I thought.

I'm thinkin' one of those things running 24/7 driving a genset and a hydralic pump to run everything from prop to winches...

HydraulicPumpHmmmmm

[AlanL]

I'd talked to one of the sellers of Listeroids one time - he thought it was mad to put one in a boat ... too big.

Yeah, well that is true, and having so much iron would need a good cooling system. It looked like they rely on convection to move water through the water jacket, so there'd be extra hardware required.

On the other hand, if sited low enough down, all that weight could be ballast.

That's what I thought.

I'm thinkin' one of those things running 24/7 driving a genset and a hydralic pump to run everything from prop to winches...

HydraulicPumpHmmmmm

[AlanL]

I'd talked to one of the sellers of Listeroids one time - he thought it was mad to put one in a boat ... too big.

Yeah, well that is true, and having so much iron would need a good cooling system. It looked like they rely on convection to move water through the water jacket, so there'd be extra hardware required.

On the other hand, if sited low enough down, all that weight could be ballast.

That's what I thought.

I'm thinkin' one of those things running 24/7 driving a genset and a hydralic pump to run everything from prop to winches...

HydraulicPumpHmmmmm

[Uncle Duke]

BoingBoing.net had a brief mention of these last October - with multiple other informational links:
Lister Links

Marine use would be interesting, but you'd need to make sure that oil feed was still happening when heeled or bouncing around, etc - these were obviously meant for stationary use, where oil supply would be pretty much certain.

[Uncle Duke]

BoingBoing.net had a brief mention of these last October - with multiple other informational links:
Lister Links

Marine use would be interesting, but you'd need to make sure that oil feed was still happening when heeled or bouncing around, etc - these were obviously meant for stationary use, where oil supply would be pretty much certain.

[Uncle Duke]

BoingBoing.net had a brief mention of these last October - with multiple other informational links:
Lister Links

Marine use would be interesting, but you'd need to make sure that oil feed was still happening when heeled or bouncing around, etc - these were obviously meant for stationary use, where oil supply would be pretty much certain.

[AlanL]

I don't think they'd be suitable for marine use. Lubrication and cooling are two issues, but also the crankshaft flex would an issue too.

Stick a gearbox on one end and pumps for hydraulics and water, plus an alternator, on the other and I doubt the bearings for the crank would be up to the job. Another issue would the space dedicated for maintaining the engine, which needs regular oiling and greasing.

On the other hand these Dongfeng marine diesels are excellent. We had one in a fishing boat years ago and after three sinkings and much usage it still went without missing a beat.

[AlanL]

I don't think they'd be suitable for marine use. Lubrication and cooling are two issues, but also the crankshaft flex would an issue too.

Stick a gearbox on one end and pumps for hydraulics and water, plus an alternator, on the other and I doubt the bearings for the crank would be up to the job. Another issue would the space dedicated for maintaining the engine, which needs regular oiling and greasing.

On the other hand these Dongfeng marine diesels are excellent. We had one in a fishing boat years ago and after three sinkings and much usage it still went without missing a beat.

[AlanL]

I don't think they'd be suitable for marine use. Lubrication and cooling are two issues, but also the crankshaft flex would an issue too.

Stick a gearbox on one end and pumps for hydraulics and water, plus an alternator, on the other and I doubt the bearings for the crank would be up to the job. Another issue would the space dedicated for maintaining the engine, which needs regular oiling and greasing.

On the other hand these Dongfeng marine diesels are excellent. We had one in a fishing boat years ago and after three sinkings and much usage it still went without missing a beat.

[Ken Hutchins]

I have always wanted to install a make and break engine in the living room right beside the fireplace. Entertainment, electricity, decoration, better than watching the TV. I probably should have just done it instead of asking you all know who.

[Ken Hutchins]

I have always wanted to install a make and break engine in the living room right beside the fireplace. Entertainment, electricity, decoration, better than watching the TV. I probably should have just done it instead of asking you all know who.

[Ken Hutchins]

I have always wanted to install a make and break engine in the living room right beside the fireplace. Entertainment, electricity, decoration, better than watching the TV. I probably should have just done it instead of asking you all know who.