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    I made the pilgrimage to the original Pub yesterday. The proprietor, who some of you might remember, was cleaning up the place in preparation for a move. He had decided to part ways with his Oliver bandsaw. It was offered to me on condition that I provide it with perpetual care, or pass it to someone who would. It was a very generous gesture from a generous man.

    Thanks, Doug.


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    Well done. Both of you.

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    My, my ! What lovely bit of machinery !
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    looks heavy
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Did they offer a sturdier model for serious work as well?
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby of Tulsa View Post
    Mr.Ledger, Maybe you should share more of that adventure.
    I will, Bobby, but for now I have to get the saw off the truck so I can return it to the rental office.

    I will say that the liftgate turned out to be useless due to some mechanical problem, so some rethinking was required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    I will say that the liftgate turned out to be useless due to some mechanical problem, so some rethinking was required.
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    looks heavy
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    When I helped Doug fetch that saw years ago, I distinctly remember what an absolute kidneypunching bastard the truck was on the drive out, and how much more softly it rode on the return trip. Top of my head I'd say 1200lb

    It's an impressive machine, truly.
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    You are a very lucky man, both for getting the saw and having a friend like that!!!! Cheers to both of you!
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    Ohhhhh. That looks nice. Just a little bit of cast iron to shove around.

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    Very nice! I've moved a fair number of large machines like this around and it always involves some head scratching and ingenuity but pipes and leverage are your friends. It has certainly found a good home.
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    And I'm not the LEAST bit jealous. Nope. Not me. Not at all. Really. <G>
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    I imagine if that machine comes from Chez Noyes that it is in pretty great shape. Wow. Impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    The proprietor, who some of you might remember, was cleaning up the place in preparation for a move.

    Wait..... Lefty is moving?
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    Quote Originally Posted by S/V Laura Ellen View Post
    Wait..... Lefty is moving?
    Sure. Dincha know? His transgressions here were so egregious that Scot not only threw him out of the Bilge, but also out of the Forum entirely... AND out of the country!
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    Quote Originally Posted by S/V Laura Ellen View Post
    Wait..... Lefty is moving?
    Uhmmmm, ..... My thought too!! What's up with Doug???? I hope "everything is ok" so to speak.

    Oh, .......... and GREAT saw by the way!

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    He CAN'T be cleaning out the shop, can he?

    Say hello for me. I hope all is well with him.

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    I hope the new owner has a happy future with the newly acquired saw and the previous owner has a happy future without it.

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    Read this thy dissenters and reflect! Is he moving to North Korea where the regime is more disposed to dissenters?
    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    Sure. Dincha know? His transgressions here were so egregious that Scot not only threw him out of the Bilge, but also out of the Forum entirely... AND out of the country!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Mahan View Post
    I never did figure out, and never heard where Doug Noyes go the handle MrLeft8. Anyone?
    Pretty hard to figure out what you're asking here?

    My stab at a answers if Doug Noyes goes by the WBF handle of Mr.Lefty8 , AKA, Lefty, mrlefty8 , etc. His screen name and he are banned currently , he due off this banning soon , I believe the end of this month?

    Does that answer your question?

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    Doug told me his banning is for life. He and Scot don't see eye to eye.

    He's moving to a new pub that sports coconut trees on the beach. He's over New England winters and prefers pina coladas anyhow.

    Well done Jim!
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    Neah, no-one diss "dear leader" and his carpolyte.
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    A serious piece of machinery, and a wonderful gift from one good friend to another. Thanks for sharing the story with us, Mr. Ledger.

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    Looking forward to seeing it set up and humming!

    Are you using the same motor setup that Doug had, or do you have something else in mind?
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    Thanks, all.

    I'd like to keep this thread confined to the saw. Dougs plans and situation are really not for me to put on the internet, aside from this subject. Many of you have his number and I'm sure he'd like to hear from you. It's ridiculous that it has come to this.

    I'm going to post a series of pictures of the unloading of the saw, for those of you who like moving heavy objects short distances.

    We'll start with the saw on the truck. It needs to be dragged to the edge of the lift gate. A chain puller managed to drag the machine without too much trouble, although the two-by-four spanning the doorway had to be doubled.




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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    Did they offer a sturdier model for serious work as well?
    Naaaa, this was it...and probably just as well. I'd like to leave the serious efforts for this Duncan Gibbses of the world while I just tie up a few loose ends and sweep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    When I helped Doug fetch that saw years ago, I distinctly remember what an absolute kidneypunching bastard the truck was on the drive out, and how much more softly it rode on the return trip. Top of my head I'd say 1200lb

    It's an impressive machine, truly.
    Mike. from what I can gather from the OWWM site the saw probably weighs more like 1700 pounds...so no hat today.

    Further, I think that the machine might be 1920's vintage. It's an Oliver 117B, according to an attached plate and all the examples I found so far are 20's machines.

    However, it's a pretty sophisticated machine compared to some other saws I've known. I'll post some pictures of some of the interesting features.



    Back to the unloading. The weather on both days of the move was about as muggy as July can get. Five minutes effort turns you into human fly-paper which attracts all thatextra-fine dust that usually resides on these machines undisturbed for decades. The low-hanging clouds threatening a downpour at any moment. And not disappointing either, as soon as the machine was clear of the truck roof...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeadon View Post
    I imagine if that machine comes from Chez Noyes that it is in pretty great shape. Wow. Impressive.

    Well, sure, tuned like a watch and all the oil cups full, as you might expect. And no signs of that over-buffing that's the ruination of many of these fine machines.

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    1700lb? I won't argue against that. Doug and I had to wheel it around the shop, via a gravel and tree-roots path as I recall, to the truck at the old-old location.
    We used a dolly with 14" tires (a quick internet search cannot find its equal, I've always suspected that my grandfather had those custom made), but still there was a bit of huffing and puffing involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    Looking forward to seeing it set up and humming!

    Are you using the same motor setup that Doug had, or do you have something else in mind?
    Funny you should ask, Mike, as I was moving the saw around, the plywood motor mount caught on a hot air duct and parted ways with the rest of the saw. The mount is beyond salvage, but at least I can use it as pattern for a replacement.



    Once the saw had been dragged back onto the lift gate it was a simple matter to lower the gate until the base toughed Earth. The chain puller was used from inside the truck to check the saws slide


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    I hope Doug is doing well. Give him my (our) regards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wilkinson View Post
    Very nice! I've moved a fair number of large machines like this around and it always involves some head scratching and ingenuity but pipes and leverage are your friends. It has certainly found a good home.
    Sure, a little planning and preparation goes a long way, showing up with a bag of tricks, ropes, chains, blocking,shackles, pry bars, pullers...and patience enough not to rush.


    Pulling from the other side now to stand the saw up. To keep the bottom of the saw from sliding a chain has been wrapped around the saw and secured to the truck chassis.



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    Whoa, heavy and then some!! I'm waiting to see some check at the top to stop it from falling over with momentum when gravity takes over.

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    Nicely done Jim.

    There is a certain satisfaction moving that kind of mass around single handed. So watcha gonna have to get rid of now that you scored that little number?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Funny you should ask, Mike, as I was moving the saw around, the plywood motor mount caught on a hot air duct and parted ways with the rest of the saw. The mount is beyond salvage, but at least I can use it as pattern for a replacement.
    I've been told the manufacturer of that mount was legally blind at the time it was made.

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