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    So I'm selling my Jeep and getting something a bit more practical; a 4runner. The Jeeping community has become more and more toxic over the past year and I can't, I just can't. One of the clubs I belonged to was literally defending Nazis. I stood in the middle of them and told them they were all fuc41ng traitors and walked away. The racism and violent talk is beyond tolerable. I don't want to be associated with the kind of talk that gets thrown around, so bu-bye Jeep. Got a good trade for it and am going with a 2020 4runner. I don't think many of you realize how disturbing the right is becoming, they are like a pool of gasoline waiting for the slightest spark to start shooting....
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    All easily foreseeable and in fact foreseen. It starts with the talk, the talk develops, and before you know it, things have changed, quicker than one thought possible.

    That's why you have to slam the talk just as early as you can. Good job!
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    I have a 45 ish nephew, was 10 years in the Army. Drives a jeep with his beloved Army star,lives in his Moms garage.
    Would not "fight" to keep his own son, but being a Trumper ,wants to Nuke the Libtards.
    The only thing he got from those 10 years was reserved parking at Home Depot for his effing jeep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizbang 13 View Post
    I have a 45 ish nephew, was 10 years in the Army. Drives a jeep with his beloved Army star,lives in his Moms garage.
    Would not "fight" to keep his own son, but being a Trumper ,wants to Nuke the Libtards.
    The only thing he got from those 10 years was reserved parking at Home Depot for his effing jeep.
    Yup, It's a way of life, hate, treason, and the wave, can't forget to wave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osborne Russell View Post
    All easily foreseeable and in fact foreseen. It starts with the talk, the talk develops, and before you know it, things have changed, quicker than one thought possible.

    That's why you have to slam the talk just as early as you can. Good job!
    Didn't do any good. I'm lucky my mouth didn't get me killed or beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McMike View Post
    So I'm selling my Jeep and getting something a bit more practical; a 4runner. The Jeeping community has become more and more toxic over the past year and I can't, I just can't. One of the clubs I belonged to was literally defending Nazis. I stood in the middle of them and told them they were all fuc41ng traitors and walked away. The racism and violent talk is beyond tolerable. I don't want to be associated with the kind of talk that gets thrown around, so bu-bye Jeep. Got a good trade for it and am going with a 2020 4runner. I don't think many of you realize how disturbing the right is becoming, they are like a pool of gasoline waiting for the slightest spark to start shooting....
    sad to hear this reality. Good on you for turning your back on that low ball crap.
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    Sorry to hear that. I guess a lot of people or under a lot of stress or tension and it shows. Whether the stress and tension is from outside or self made - doesn't really matter. And: It sounds like a good idea to leave such a community.
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    Don't worry, Mike.

    It can't happen here.
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    The good news is, you’ll probably spent way less time in your dealership’s Repair center waiting room And more time driving...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CK 17 View Post
    The good news is, you’ll probably spent way less time in your dealership’s Repair center waiting room And more time driving...
    I've had luck with mine. I would keep it if the community wasn't so bat-sh17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Don't worry, Mike.

    It can't happen here.
    I can't, we're special...
    In the US this perverted idea of “blood and soil” over “constitutional principles” is the most radical and anti-democratic and anti-Conservative idea I have heard in my lifetime.

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    Glad they didn't get to you, Mike.

    Maybe start your own club. Offroaders for Hillary?

    JK, man, don't be mad.

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    Interesting thread - and offers some 'insight' into my observation of local drivers. Big Black Pickups 'tend' to be driven by similar personalities - but not always. Many folks with Jeeps are real aholes, as well - and I've enjoyed a few run-ins, while driving. They tend to run a bit more HP than many, and enjoy blowing past folks, driving aggressively. I've noticed they're much more aggressive with me, when I'm driving my Subie, than when I'm in the X3. Maybe they think I'm a kindred spirit? :P
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    They tend to leave me alone, but it might be a case of feeling sorry for me driving a Landy. I like jeeps, they are your best bang for the buck when it comes to going offroad, but how are their owners something to behold. There is a guy I follow http://theroadchoseme.com/ and some of the jeepers commenting on his videos in youtube would turn anybody off. I actually got into an argument that called Dan "not a real offroader" even though he has literally driven around the world in jeeps.
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    This isn’t new. Back when I had my discovery and participated in a Land Rover club the Jeep clubs were much the same. Only difference now is they feel emboldened by POTUS.
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    Never been in a Jeep club? Why sell your car? Just leave the club. I’d be damned if a bunch of yayhoos made me think I should sell my Honda Fit.
    Why not put some “ Punch A Nazi” stickers on your Jeep. BLM, perhaps? Biden could use the ad space.
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    mountain biking. . .

    now there's a sport for the effete liberal
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    hmmm

    that was supposed to read 'liberal elite'. . .
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    McMike -- my condolences. One of my younger relatives, over at the coast, is part of that community. The polarization... and the idiocy... really is amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    mountain biking. . .

    now there's a sport for the effete liberal
    what?

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    I tink Pless was going for 'elite effete'. Or sumthin'.
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    I don't understand. Why are these extremists attracted to Jeep? I get the off roading appeal, although I don't share it. I get the survivalists may want something like that. I see students living off their parents' dollar driving overpriced Jeeps that are remarkably poor choices for winter (no doors or roof, that sort of thing).

    Why are they defending Nazis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    hmmm

    that was supposed to read 'liberal elite'. . .
    That seems to be true in Portland, except for a certain 'bikebum/wildman' contingent.

    In Austin, I sure met a lot of suburban conservative types on mountain bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post
    I don't understand. Why are these extremists attracted to Jeep? I get the off roading appeal, although I don't share it. I get the survivalists may want something like that. I see students living off their parents' dollar driving overpriced Jeeps that are remarkably poor choices for winter (no doors or roof, that sort of thing).

    Why are they defending Nazis?
    offroaders tend conservative because it is liberals who want to restrict their "right" to tear up our public lands. also, it's the socialists who make you feel bad about burning fossil fuels for self-gratification. and so on.

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    Jeez!! plenty of Jeeps about here, including the Fiat 2WD toy version. But, no thickhead attitudes to go with them.
    Bit like the H-D rally, what is the connection with useless bikes and neanderthals? plenty of very bad attitudes on show. Freedom? incredible selfishness.

    Edit: While my other half is from DC, I had no idea that Jeeps owners had such clubs with such attitudes. Creepy..
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    I loved my Wrangler but my wife convinced me to trade it in on an AWD Cherokee. The Cherokee is perfect for me. Safe, comfortable and a good tow vehicle, but I will always miss my Wrangler.
    The Wrangler was a man's Jeep. The Cherokee is just another boring SUV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich Jones View Post
    I loved my Wrangler but my wife convinced me to trade it in on an AWD Cherokee. The Cherokee is perfect for me. Safe, comfortable and a good tow vehicle, but I will always miss my Wrangler.
    The Wrangler was a man's Jeep. The Cherokee is just another boring SUV.
    Car culture... I drove an early Cherokee over here, lots of interest from peeps at petrol/gas stations. It was quick, but quite cramped inside. Yes, towed well, but I would not want another. Quite crude in the mechanics and drank a lot. Less of interest on the US, but we pay a lot more for gas.. When they were more common here, they had the MB diesel, so more pedestrien.

    More to the point, American Icons being hijacked by nasty people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.W. Baxter View Post
    offroaders tend conservative because it is liberals who want to restrict their "right" to tear up our public lands. also, it's the socialists who make you feel bad about burning fossil fuels for self-gratification. and so on.
    I'm going to have to think about this. I do dislike Jeeps for much the same reasons you list, but it's a long reach from there to defending Nazis. If you're right, that is a hideous measure of the anger and self-indulgence of our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew2 View Post
    Jeez!! plenty of Jeeps about here, including the Fiat 2WD toy version. But, no thickhead attitudes to go with them.
    Bit like the H-D rally, what is the connection with useless bikes and neanderthals? plenty of very bad attitudes on show. Freedom? incredible selfishness.

    Edit: While my other half is from DC, I had no idea that Jeeps owners had such clubs with such attitudes. Creepy..
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    The Toyota TRD versions are aimed at the jacked-up-Jeep crowd.

    I saw an old jacked up CJ5 the other day and thought, I'd rather hike over terrain needing that then drive over it; Perhaps you might need it to get to a remote campsite with all your car-camping stuff, but if there are no roads there, I don't think I should drive over the land. Just my own personal opinion.

    For quite some time I have drooled over ads for used Land Rover LR4s. The LR3 had a number of serious quality issues, the LR4 is essentially the same but with a more durable engine (iron cylinder liners instead of Nikasil) and other improvements. And it has an impressive suspension system with active roll stabilization, and I checked the cost of replacement air springs, and that they make steel-spring replacement kits. One I saw was in mint condition, lovely colors in and out, 100k miles, and about 25% of price when new. What deterred me is research showing that year still has issues with timing chain guides that can fail, very expensive repair, even if caught before it destroys the engine, in which case you are looking at over $20k repair. I don't need an off-roader at all. But I drive VERY little these days, less than 3,000 miles a year, so fuel mileage is way less critical, and when I do, I often need more room than my subcompact sedan. Small station wagons have all but been eliminated from the market except for Subaru, which continues to have engine durability issues. I would say an electric van is in my future, but with the cost of new vehicles and my current mileage, I can't see ever buying new, not now, after a whole life of never buying new, even when I was working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oznabrag View Post
    Pretty good answer right here: https://www.thenation.com/article/ar...er-s-thompson/

    Scary spit.
    Wow, super good article, thanks. I'm gonna pass that on to friends. I think it's especially relevant in the gun policy debate.
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    Dude have you seen the NEW BRONCO ?? Even my Jeep friends are drooling over it.



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    ^ Bronco: Except that it has independent front suspension but a solid rear axle. Pick one for both ends; All independent for better ground clearance and on-highway handling, or all solid axles for durability. The Jeep crowd prefers solid axles.
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    Now I get it, I suppose. I bought a Jeep on my son-in-law's behalf in Atlanta last year (southern, no-rust vehicle) and drove it north to Maine while he was completing his residency at a hospital. I was getting waves and not a few QAnon 'flying a**hole' gestures from other Jeep drivers. Weird.
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    Mike, I have a good friend here, as liberal progressive as you can get. He's also an avid Jeeper he's actually developing a product for the Jeep off-roading community that he will be bringing to market. I constantly send him photos of Jeeps that are insanely tarted up in rightwing BS so much all they are missing is a driver in a Klan hood and a burning cross on the bumper. I just sent him your rant.
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