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    Default Upon Deep and Considered Reflection

    I have concluded that life at hard labor for Trump would be better than hanging him.

    If this country is going to take itself seriously, we must spare the life of this traitor.

    Contrariwise, if we spare the life of this traitor, still he must be punished in accordance with the dimensions of his criminality.

    His crimes against the Constitution.

    If he escapes punishment, then our government is over.

    The power to apprehend, charge, try, convict, sentence and execute that sentence is the measure of a government's strength.

    If the US Government can find no way to protect the Nation from the depredations of this monster, then that government will dissolve.

    If we can keep the Constitution and crush Trumpism, I am willing to spare their lives at the price of their fortunes and their freedom.
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    I think there's space at Guantanamo Bay. Or Supermax. Either would be quite appropriate, given their support for both. I think only the military prisons at places like Leavenworth still administer hard labor.
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    I dunno.. seems to me the head on a pike at the town gates of centuries gone by was pretty effective.. crows eating eyeballs & all.

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    I want to see him publicly humiliated, lose the election in a complete rout and have pictures of him being led away hands cuffed behind his back splashed all over the front pages of the worlds media..... Then the hanging.

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    Seven words.


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    What a violent blood thirsty pack.
    Build a case dealing with his fraudulent behaviour allied to his inability to manage a convivial gathering in a distillery. Have the courts confiscate his fortune and tie it up in a trust fund for his son Barron. The other children are adults and so should be self-sufficient.
    Then turn Skidmark lose to work for his living.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    If hung by the neck it might not be capable of withstanding the load. Quite a mess to clean up; but a spectacular fail.

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    I think that an exiled and jailed king presents a bit of a rallying point for the aggrieved faithful. It was useful if gruesome that Hitler found his bunker, and Mussolini his lamp post.

    Consider the cautionary examples of Napoleon, for instance. Or Bonnie Prince Charlie. For all that either was both more attractive and capable than Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cathouse willy View Post
    I want to see him publicly humiliated, lose the election in a complete rout and have pictures of him being led away hands cuffed behind his back splashed all over the front pages of the worlds media..... Then the hanging.
    All but the hanging for me. I want him to live a long life, knowing that the world is laughing at his total failure.
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    I think Dr. Mudd's prison cell in Fort Jefferson is still open.
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    6+1.


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    I advocate disappearing him to Guantanamo. No publicity. Just pick him up quietly in the middle of the night and transport him incognito to his life long all expenses paid vacation in eastern Cuba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Haberland View Post
    I think Dr. Mudd's prison cell in Fort Jefferson is still open.
    Ahh but!

    Dr Mudd was a much-maligned innocent man just earning his crust.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    I understand the urge to lash out and get radically punitive. I share it at times.

    In terms of the health of our nation... I'd want to give a lot more consideration to what course of action would be most useful for the future.

    I think we can set aside any hope that punishment will rehabilitate tRump. He's beyond redemption because of his long-standing psychological issues and a lifetime of developing and armoring his 'coping strategies' in order to shore up that fragile ego. He's simply too damaged to save.

    So that leaves punishment and deterrence.

    I think punishment for its own sake is usually bootless, or even self-defeating. Feeding a festering polarization would be a bid idea in a lot of ways. In this instance - the national catharsis, however, might be worth including some of this. Leaning toward understated rather than overkill. Should be seen my the vast majority as 'more than fair'. But this shouldn't be our main focus.

    Which leaves deterrence. What punishment would maximize deterrence? On that, we should give serious thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David G View Post
    I understand the urge to lash out and get radically punitive. I share it at times.

    In terms of the health of our nation... I'd want to give a lot more consideration to what course of action would be most useful for the future.

    I think we can set aside any hope that punishment will rehabilitate tRump. He's beyond redemption because of his long-standing psychological issues and a lifetime of developing and armoring his 'coping strategies' in order to shore up that fragile ego. He's simply too damaged to save.

    So that leaves punishment and deterrence.

    I think punishment for its own sake is usually bootless, or even self-defeating. Feeding a festering polarization would be a bid idea in a lot of ways. In this instance - the national catharsis, however, might be worth including some of this. Leaning toward understated rather than overkill. Should be seen my the vast majority as 'more than fair'. But this shouldn't be our main focus.

    Which leaves deterrence. What punishment would maximize deterrence? On that, we should give serious thought.
    That my man was almost enlightened, verging on a Chautauqua perhaps. Don’t let it go to your head though....

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