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    For those who wish to play Destroyer Commander on their yacht:




    For those who don't like to look at the world through squares or circles:




    And for those who lack enough confidence to remove the training wheels:

    Hope for the best, but plan for the worst.

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    Vessel #2. Hope there's an indicator on the bridge that confirms the front door is shut before getting underway.
    I was born on a wooden boat that I built myself.

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    I'm a-thinkin' that the open door is the anchor pocket, Rich.
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    Does one need a degree in naval architecture to appreciate these craft?
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    Probably, Steve. Otherwise, just make fun of them.

    Like I did...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMARTINSEN View Post
    Does one need a degree in naval architecture to appreciate these craft?
    Apparently so. I don't like any of 'em.

    #1 - I've never like 'Brutalist' architecture.

    #2 - The window shapes are forced. They neither complement nor directly contrast the rest of the composition in any coherent way.

    #3 - The best of the lot... but what does one gain from all that excess beam? Seems like there are better ways to achieve the stability that seems their only practical purpose.
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    Are these already afloat or just a bunch of ones and zeros?

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    I will (slightly) defend against your No. 3, David. The ambition with that boat was to be very fuel-efficient while achieving high speed. Really narrow boats go fast at hull speed, but suffer from instability. Training wheels fixes that.

    Edit to add: Yes, ron II, they are really real and afloat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    I will (slightly) defend against your No. 3, David. The ambition with that boat was to be very fuel-efficient while achieving high speed. Really narrow boats go fast at hull speed, but suffer from instability. Training wheels fixes that.

    Edit to add: Yes, ron II, they are really real and afloat.

    just stick one of them gyrat'n stabuhlizers in there.

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    I thought the wacky windows, ugly though they are, were an homage to the dazzle painting of warships

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    The silver tri I quite liked.At least the others got some money moving in the economy.

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    How 'bout this one? Designed by Porsche featuring twin 4,600-hp diesels and KaMeWa waterjets, billed as "a spaceship on water" and "designed in the style of a catamaran, with two parallel hulls". (I always thought that two parallel hulls defined what a catamaran was, so how can it be 'in the style of'?) Apparently, 'ArtSpeak' exists in the luxury yacht market as well as modern art.

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    Vessels 1 and 2 I cannot comment on - they're big and I hope that whoever payed the bills enjoys them.

    I'm guessing that the power trimaran is to a large extent an experimental craft - it seems odd to be perpetually dragging both amas - it might be nice to see a repeat exxperiment with amas in the style of Hydroptère.....
    I'd much rather lay in my bunk all freakin day lookin at Youtube videos .

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    #3 - The best of the lot... but what does one gain from all that excess beam? Seems like there are better ways to achieve the stability that seems their only practical purpose.
    Practical? Applied to a recreational boat? HAHAHAHAHA!

    Certainly you are correct--for instance, a gyro stabilizer would make a monohull MORE stable than that tri. But--the trimaran almost guarantees you get a berth out front where everyone can see you. Ensures you are that owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    How 'bout this one? Designed by Porsche featuring twin 4,600-hp diesels and KaMeWa waterjets, billed as "a spaceship on water" and "designed in the style of a catamaran, with two parallel hulls". (I always thought that two parallel hulls defined what a catamaran was, so how can it be 'in the style of'?) Apparently, 'ArtSpeak' exists in the luxury yacht market as well as modern art.

    Not big fans of deck space are they?

    A neighbor in my marina has the mass produced version of that cabin form. He has to wear a harness and roofers lanyard to wash the top. The whole top is an ever accelerating curve 20 feet above the dock, it looks absolutely terrifying to be on. He washes it every weekend.

    And for the record, that cat is wildly ugly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    For those who don't like to look at the world through squares or circles:


    Are those ports the modern equivalent of dazzle camouflage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.Madison View Post
    And for the record, that cat is wildly ugly!
    You should see it bow-on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    How 'bout this one? Designed by Porsche featuring twin 4,600-hp diesels and KaMeWa waterjets, billed as "a spaceship on water" and "designed in the style of a catamaran, with two parallel hulls". (I always thought that two parallel hulls defined what a catamaran was, so how can it be 'in the style of'?) Apparently, 'ArtSpeak' exists in the luxury yacht market as well as modern art.

    The ED-209 of boats.

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    I like 1 and 3. More please!

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    Terrible engineering, unfit for purpose and ugly boats.

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    #1 in the OP needs more stealth angling to the panels to look more authentic. A CIWS on deck wouldn't hurt.
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    I like #3 the most. Did it save as much fuel as envisioned?
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    I know naval architect guys like to think they know what they're doing, but wow.

    I don't know much about it, but I know what I like. This baby has everything going for it for me, plenty of capacity and strong!

    Looks fast, and I like the colours!

    100237914-flat-bottomed-and-blunt-nosed-this-scow-boat-can-handle-many-chores-including-pushing-.jpg

    I'm constantly amazed at how those NA guys spend ALL FRIKKIN DAY with their slide rules and computers figgrin stuff out that don't need to be figgred out. Sheesh what a bunch of overpaid charlatans!

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    I think we have touched a nerve...
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    Let's see how you feel after 6 pages of this. Then let's talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    I know naval architect guys like to think they know what they're doing, but wow.

    I don't know much about it, but I know what I like. This baby has everything going for it for me, plenty of capacity and strong!

    Looks fast, and I like the colours!

    100237914-flat-bottomed-and-blunt-nosed-this-scow-boat-can-handle-many-chores-including-pushing-.jpg

    I'm constantly amazed at how those NA guys spend ALL FRIKKIN DAY with their slide rules and computers figgrin stuff out that don't need to be figgred out. Sheesh what a bunch of overpaid charlatans!
    Lots o potential there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    Let's see how you feel after 6 pages of this. Then let's talk.
    Have at it, Lupussonic. I'll keep reading.

    By-the-by, I'd love to see the stability curve for the barge that you posted - any idea what it is intended to carry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Lots o potential there.
    needs some off kilter port lites.
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    Here's one not-so-big, but, umm... different:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Have at it, Lupussonic. I'll keep reading.

    By-the-by, I'd love to see the stability curve for the barge that you posted - any idea what it is intended to carry?
    Pffft Stability flamitlitbility. Who cares, she's great!

    Here's another great looking sailboat. My brothers uncles neighbour told me it was really fast, a J boat! J boats were raced in India around, uh, the 5th century.

    download.jpg

    Woooaahhh! Ain't she a peach?!

    My uncles brothers neighbour said it's dumb to go spending all that cash on calculiations. Screw that, those guys just try to put the fear into ya, then go rippin'you off for all that stuff they do. You know, calcliations and stuff. You really don't need to bother, just get some wood or metal or playdoh (not a lot of people know about this, but it goes real hard and watertight if you leave it in the sun overnight) shape it into whatever you think looks good, and that's all you need to do.

    Just get out there and sail!

    Yeah!

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    You would be surprised at how many boats I see that are built with just that attitude, Lupussonic.

    See? I'm still reading, and no heartburn nor vitriol, either. But I gotta put it down for a bit - it's suppertime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    Here's one not-so-big, but, umm... different:

    I'm not too fond of the boat, bu there are a couple of nice features in that picture.
    Stay calm, be brave....wait for the signs. Possibly precariously prevaricating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve McMahon View Post
    I'm not too fond of the boat, bu there are a couple of nice features in that picture.
    Searay meets slide-out camper?

    What really scares me is that I agree with Mr. G. (#5).

    If the odd windows are supposed to remind us of dazzle, it totally failed. (IOW - it didn't dazzle me).
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    #1 looks like it should be loaded with mercenaries and shadowing yachts through the pirate-infested waters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmd View Post
    How 'bout this one? Designed by Porsche featuring twin 4,600-hp diesels and KaMeWa waterjets, billed as "a spaceship on water" and "designed in the style of a catamaran, with two parallel hulls". (I always thought that two parallel hulls defined what a catamaran was, so how can it be 'in the style of'?) Apparently, 'ArtSpeak' exists in the luxury yacht market as well as modern art.
    Hmm, I seem to recall small sailing cats being set up with some "toe-in" to their hulls to aid windward performance. Perhaps that only worked when flying the windward hull... at which time I 'spose they weren't cats any longer!

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