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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    I just heard the oiliest interview I can ever remember, Scomo on Industrial Elations. Truculent doesnt say half of it.
    Would you trust the man or the party on the subject. I wouldn't for one second.
    The Libs have not changed their spots.
    There's a brush with emergency social consciousness right now, because they were smart enough (thankfully) to recognise they had no choice, but as soon as they can they'll be back to screwing the have nots for the benefit of the haves.
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Ou honey supply is very local. Our garden provides the food for hives on 3 sides of us, and get our honey free.
    I took a step into bee keeping, but my hive got smashed by african hive beetles.
    Is this a problem you have to manage?
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Not that I know of gypsie. Neighbours hives seem fine nd produce well.

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    I think they are probably embarrassed now that Covid didn't pan out as bad as it could have. They hit the panic button and threw too much money at the poor and undeserving. One guess who's going to be targetted to pay it back?

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    Not bees. Lib gnats.

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    I would rather call them Lib nits.....

    gnat:
    A gnat /ˈnŠt/ is any of many species of tiny flying insects in the dipterid suborder Nematocera, especially those in the families Mycetophilidae, Anisopodidae and Sciaridae. They can be both biting and non-biting. Most often they fly in large numbers, called clouds.


    Nit:
    Nits are the eggs or young of small parasitic insects, most commonly lice. They are especially called this when they are attached to hair. Nit is the basis of the word nitpick. ... Example: Your scalp won't be free of lice until you remove all the nits
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

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    There's leaches. If you are abandoning the idea of sticking with the actual sound. Sorry that's clumsy, just can't find the word. Nats. Sounds exactly the same as gnats. So it's cleverer than just calling them d!ckheads.

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    Turds!
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    Well there's that too.

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    So now they have governments so far in the pocket they just blow up inconveniebt sacred sites and walk off grinning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    So now they have governments so far in the pocket they just blow up inconveniebt sacred sites and walk off grinning?
    Rio Tinto have a history of environmental vandalism going back decades.
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    Good ol' WA gov.
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    And then there's the Fed Police, also in the pocket still. If you keep the ABC 'investigation' active it's a threat to jounalists everywhere. And then you reduce the ABC's budget to pocket money despite their performance during the fires and the epidemic to also knobble any future investigations, and deter whistleblowers.
    The LibNats are about as despicable a group of politicians as we have ever seen in Aus.

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    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-...court/12271556

    Mr McIntyre, also a lawyer on the historic Mabo native title determination, said FMG's claim was hard to prove.

    "It really boils down to an argument that if the colonisers have come in and flexed their muscles and made it the case that Indigenous people are subservient to them, then that is a basis for taking away their rights."

    "It's quite a difficult argument, I would have thought, to sustain. It probably doesn't work in any legal system that I know."
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    That Rio Tinto thing is about as ...... i can't think of the word... as it can get.
    Unfathomable?
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    ​"Life is under no obligation to give us what we expect." Irrfan Khan. RIP

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    So if you demand money with menaces from people who owe you nothing you'd be in jail quick smart.

    But if the Government does the same they just pay it back, and no one even loses their job much less the minister.

    And if the Government, the PM no less, plays favours with grants in an effort to swing an election the election stands and no one loses their job either?

    They are a pack of crooks.

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    Background briefing, RN.
    Port Pirie, lead pollution and the cover up.

    Basically the whole town is unsafe, and for children even worse. Should be abandoned.

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    Yeah I don't get why anyone with kids lives there. I know employment, home ownership, family etc. None of those are good enough reasons to keep kids there.

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    PortPirie children, even the ones where parents take precautions are reporting 10 times 'safe' lead levels in their blood.

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    Hi Phil, The local council here in Lake Macquarie NSW placed a ban on any children under the age of 5 (I think) from living in a house within 6 streets of the old Plasminco lead refinery. This was due to the soil and house contamination caused by the smelting of lead and zinc at the refinery. The council has spent millions on trying to clean up the site with some help from the administration of the bankrupt company that purchased the smelter off Plasminco. They still have great difficulty growing any vegetation on the site.

    Bruce

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    Twenty three women killed by their partners this year, the senate enquiry took no submissions, saw no witnesses and finished up early with so far no report. 12 during the pandemic. $320 mill. spent for no report or visible result.

    So now there's another enquiry being touted by Anne Muston, Minister for Social Services. Another 'under the rug' effort?
    We'll see.

    And BTW, no apology from anyone concerned with Robodebt, and I bet there'll be no consequences either.
    That and the $30 billion mistake last week do not engender much confidence.

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    I'm thinking Scomo is going to feel emboldened by his Covid performance, and will think that the slack that the electorate cut him around that, and the authority he was allowed to wield, will carry on into other endeavours. I'm thinking he will shoot himself in the foot. Labour just needs to wait and watch it unfold.

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    Yep.
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    How come the robo debt debacle is not fraud, or theft, or in a few cases virtual manslaughter after suicides?. And given the scale of it how come no heads are rolling? And not just the ministers either, what burocrat suggested this, and what lawyers vetted it?

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    Ask a better question: how many bureaucrats advised the ministers that the whole thing would be a debacle, immoral and tragic? Why are ministers not accountable for ignoring the advice of people who actually know what they're talking about instead of ALWAYS acting on the advice of the FWIT spinners they have crowding their offices?
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    Indeed. It just seems so obviously flawed in so many respects its almost impossible to understand how it was ever launched. No, not almost, it is incomprehensible.

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    Stuart Robert is a happy clapper friend of Scomo it seems………..

    And just to add to the mess it seems that the early access to super funds is also rife with theft and fraud because the MyGov website is open to it. Even if the subject of the theft is not elligible for the early access, the ATO approved many of the illegal withdrawals.
    What next?

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    Do I know Stuart Robert?
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    Oh yeah, the minister, of course. Sorry, it gets to the point where I can't remember whether they're someone in government or one of the bad guys in Dr Who.

    I've said it before: Anyone who believes that Jesus is actually going to arrive in a winged chariot one day and sweep everything away should be deemed ineligible for any leadership role in our nation!
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    Speaking of Queensland nationals…..Q&A, with Mat Canavan in the starring role.
    I really have to turn it off…………….

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    Canavan's a turd
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    Why is the history of WA re their Aboriginal citizens, their rights and the continued destruction of their cultural sites so bad? (463 applications, and permissions to destroy Aboriginal cultural sites evidently, 463!) Oh I know it's all about money and political donations but I also wonder whether the remnant of the 'them and us' relationship with the eastern states is part of the problem. Canberra being an 'eastern state'.

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    ^ stunning - not one rejection!



    Witness K and Collaery podcast - 23mins.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...s-in-australia


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    Whatever it is it's certainly not justice.
    I think the Government, looking for revenge on being exposed, have caused most of this problem.

    Several politicians should have been summarily dismissed or maybe on trial, and maybe the operative that oversaw the spying as well. Collaery and his client are fall guys for a badly stuffed up operation that should never have been embarked upon. Considering it was a private commercial matter I'd just love to know just who got bribed in the first place.

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