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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    I have a long post floating around in my head, which I probably won't write. Arising out of our travels in Europe. To do with the fragility of all the things we take for granted. Our lifestyle is an illusion. And of course to do with global warming. Feudal villages. Farming harsh, steep, awful country, growing veggies on virtual cliff faces with tiny terraces carved into them by hand. Poor villages, surrounded by huge walls. For survival against attack by hungry humans. The woeful inadequacy of my 70's and 80's education. I was learning about "pop culture" while the countries of Europe became a single entity which is now disintegrating. I have no idea what that means. Our commercial nightly "news". A car crash. A few daily stock market highlights with no context or analysis. A small time fraudster. The latest celebrity piffle. And then more sport than news. Rounded out by local weather, done with a very broad brush. The same on the ABC and SBS, although with a few pics of a car bomb on a street somewhere in the Middle East, where America gets its oil. And our Federal Minister for Water Resources says there's no drought as such, it's just that the states should have built more dams.

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    dude, phil, please do write this

    and don't bury it in the ozpol thread
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Barney our Drought Envoy appointed by Scomo a year or two ago has yet to submit a report.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...produce-report
    Too much involved in NSW RW politics.

    And we have had our warmest september night in 20 years. "Unseasonal" northerly winds………….

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Barney our Drought Envoy appointed by Scomo a year or two ago has yet to submit a report.
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...produce-report
    Too much involved in NSW RW politics.

    And we have had our warmest september night in 20 years. "Unseasonal" northerly winds………….
    I was about to post this and the one report that does exist, by the Coordinator-General for Drought, Major General Stephen Day, and the Drought Interagency Taskforce....is confidential. I wonder why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shamus View Post
    Can I encourage you to write it? I would like to read it.
    If the broader article is anything like that small statement then it should be written. Please.
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    Drought.
    My local farmers and I often discuss rainfall, because it is a subject that comes up a lot amongst farmers. The average rainfall here is about 830 mm. The funny thing is that if we have a year we get say 580mm there is a bit of a feeling that we’ve been robbed. I get the feeling that they feel kind of entitled to “at least average” or feel that “average is normal”. I’ve tried to explain standard deviation to them a couple of times and that any figure between 530 and 1115 could be expected in any two thirds of years and that the other third of years it will be either drier than 530 or wetter than 1115. I have to say they don’t get it, but I’ll soldier on.

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    I wonder what delicacy donald will give scomo to suck on whilst he gets his latest orders?

    And I note that Scomo has had is "All the way with Donald" moment, but donald is reluctant. It's the 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome. It may be that under the bluster donald's preferred weapon is economics.
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    The only possible reason for Scomo's decision (note that one man's decision) is he got orders, with a leavening of bedazzlement and hubris. But then if Bill had won I have no doubt he would have been just as constrained. And from what we know of the past behaviour of our 'intelligence' agencies, they never have acknowledged the governance of left wing administrations or properly informed them.
    I used to refer to Aus. as a Satrapy of the US, it sure is.

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    Morrison in Washington…….


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    ….and it looks like scomo has bought the whole trump package, but at least he's open about being a mouthpiece and a toady to the man. He got his orders, tugged his forelock. So much for the China trade………….. Hang on for a wild ride gentlemen……..

    But climate change will take all this before it I think. Interesting time to be alive if you are old, terrifying if you are young. It's all short term now.
    "Yet you all come to us young people for hope. How dare you! You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words."
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    Greta Thunberg has certainly laid it on the line.
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    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    It's what is going on underground that is the problem with fracking.
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    It probably is that our present western lifestyle and the design of our cities is unsustainable. And then there's the developing nations that want what we have as well. Who'll deny them when over half of our own voters seem not to care enough?
    Be it on their own grandchildren's heads…………….

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    Are you saying great open pits in the ground are bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Greta Thunberg has certainly laid it on the line.
    YES!! What a trooper! Go her.
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    This is an interesting observation; https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ommodates-them
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    Watching Gruen on the ABC. Howcroft is one of the most amoral people I can ever recall.
    The others at least seem to have a certain irony about what they do.

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    Lot of money being given to Hillsong.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/c...rjNg0WzQcQOOKU
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    Am I surprised?

    Not a bit. They'll get it back in party donations is likely………………...

    And to the people who voted with their wallets, serves you right.

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    Trump, a man who can't hold a coherent thought till the end of the sentence.

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    Greta, and quite a few similarly aged Australian youg people must have touched a raw nerve, scomo has been in distraction mode ever since.

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    One of those all so common moments where white wing nuts are completely unself aware.
    The neo-liberal elite who bang on about small government until they turn a kind of puse, are going to step in with their nanny state apron on and tell the ACT citizenry that they can't make decisions for themselves - again.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...legalise-drugs

    Do you think there will ever be a point where these nut bags see how they preach one thing and practice the complete opposite?
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    Fact check on Scomo's climate speech...not good.
    https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/fa...sembly-speech/
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    Well to be fair he wasn't going to make one before Greta. Unprepared with a story long on spin and the occasional lie and short on facts. But he's paddling hard upstream in an increasing current.
    But don't get too optimistic, the pirates have been in charge of the treasury for a long time.

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    This was a passionate plea in 92 and nothing happened.
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    1964
    the times they are a changin youtube

    Pink Floyd
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPpAPIIZyo

    and then in 1914-18 ansd 1939-45 they fought a whole war about it, all those young people dying for …………. for what………?
    Donald, boris, there's a whole list of them not fit to lick the boots of those dead and maimed young people……….

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    Only the second world leader to be so honoured....

    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    Honoured?
    Really?
    Smooged is more likely. He should be more careful of the company he keeps, and so should donald.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    Only the second world leader to be so honoured....

    Having dinner with someone who can't hold a coherent thought till the end of the sentence is not an honour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Honoured?
    Really?
    Smooged is more likely. He should be more careful of the company he keeps, and so should donald.
    Hillsong is the company he keeps. If god existed Hillsong would be a smoking pile of rubble.
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    ........Morrison’s darkest hour, metaphorically toasting the devil. How could someone who diligently followed the example of Jesus end up in such a seemingly compromised situation? I feel sorry for him, but personal responsibility, being what it is, I’m in no doubt there will be natural and logical consequences.
    PS the golden eagle is an interesting juxtaposition......
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    I have come to the opinion that Morrisons much touted religious beliefs are more akin to religiosity and ''flexible'' depending on the publicity and electoral value.

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