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    "Either the rules matter or they don't."

    Seems they don't, but then they haven't for some time now.
    Meanwhile in a Victorian Western Suburbs branch meeting a propper factional punch up over branch stacking. Some parts of the ALP have some questionable connections

    Pack of crooks.

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    Well well, found out something I should have known. Morrison's hands are tied because she'a a Nat. and deputy leader to boot, and as such is entitled to a ministry. The Nats are playing hard ball on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Probably have to create a new ministry for her. Something completely insignificant, tokenism. I don't know, Minister for the Great Barrier Reef? Minister for single use shopping bags? Minister for Diversity?

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    They could really tie her up in some forgotten dusty corner of Parliament house and make her Minister for Ethics and Climate Change. "No Standards are too Low".
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Morrison's hands are tied because she'a a Nat. and deputy leader to boot, and as such is entitled to a ministry. The Nats are playing hard ball on this.
    Every now and then you get a sense of the free ride the Nats have.
    Their own vote is pretty much sewn up - Country Labour are ever going to make big inroads. But the Libs need them desperately.
    So the Nats live in this consequence free world while the Libs sweat it out over their blunders.
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    But if the Libs go down the undertow will take the Nats with them.
    As for Scumo distancing himself from the sports fiasco, how could he have not known about it from it's inception?
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    It's a free ride.
    They didn't expect to win the last election, they don't expect to win the next.

    Party like it's 1999! And let the libs figure it out.



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    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...9IR6kaVrjPVmr4


    The Tamil family detained on Christmas Island while they fight deportation was unaware the Australian territory will be used to quarantine Wuhan evacuees until they were told by a freelance journalist.

    Known as the Bileola family after the Queensland town where they had built a life, Priya, Nadesalingam and their children, Kopika, 4, and Tharunicaa, 2, were sent to Christmas Island in August after the federal court granted an injunction to halt their deportation.

    Coronavirus: Australia doesn't have permission from China to evacuate its citizens from Wuhan

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    The family are the sole inhabitants of the island’s detention centre, which was controversially re-opened by the Morrison government in March and has so far cost taxpayers $26.8m.
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    ^ $26.8m + traumatizing two little kids, just to make a point.
    And it is all unnecessary.

    Its been a while since i've heard a world leader, or almost any leader, think compassionately.
    WHO expressing concern for countries that don't have the capacity to fight Coronavirus. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...alth-emergency

    “Although these numbers are relatively small compared to the number of cases in China, we must act together now to limit further spread.”
    “Our greatest concern is the potential for the virus to spread to countries with weaker health systems which are ill prepared to deal with it,” said Tedros.
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Probably have to create a new ministry for her. Something completely insignificant, tokenism. I don't know, Minister for the Great Barrier Reef? Minister for single use shopping bags? Minister for Diversity?

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    a fitting portfolio would be Minister for the Country Womans Association.....because she would turn up to a meeting and they would kick her up the arse so hard she would learn a lesson she'd never forget!
    ( ie there are a lot of genuine country folk feeling very angry and betrayed by the CP and their lack of representation. )
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    It seems that she approved grants to organisations in friendly electorates that had not even been made by the deadline, or later. The inference being that she was 'pro active' in saying ''just apply and I'll give it to you".

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    CP = Cotton & Coal Party

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    I note that now coal is on the nose and maybe the industry will contract the Feds are pushing gas rather than renewables again. Gas is big business and a source of corporate poilitical funding. Rooftop solar not so much.

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    Oh yes, the geniuses running Australia and NSW are now celebrating a new breakthrough in energy provision. They'll now import a whole lot of gas from .......? And they'll continue to try to destroy the remaining agricultural pockets of the Upper Hunter/New England by releasing gases with the potential to massively accelerate global warming. And here we were thinking the total FWITS running this place had no clue whatsoever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Oh yes, the geniuses running Australia and NSW are now celebrating a new breakthrough in energy provision. They'll now import a whole lot of gas from .......? And they'll continue to try to destroy the remaining agricultural pockets of the Upper Hunter/New England by releasing gases with the potential to massively accelerate global warming. And here we were thinking the total FWITS running this place had no clue whatsoever!

    Rick
    It's all tied into increased coal use as well I believe.
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    Extreme weather events seem to be a weekly if not a daily occurrence now.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-...toria/11920502
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    A list of extreme events for 2019.
    http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/curren...s/#tabs=Events
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    Coronavirus. The government seems to be taking it seriously.
    "Australia has upgraded its travel advice in the wake of the coronavirus outbreak to include all of mainland China to level four, "do not travel", Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced.
    The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) has advised Australians not to travel to China due to the "escalating threat" of the virus, while asking those who have returned from the country to self-isolate for 14 days.
    Mr Morrison said DFAT had recommended the implementation of additional border measures, which would deny entry to Australia for people who have left or transited through mainland China from today."
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-...virus/11920742

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    So, Mckenzie has gone. Now we wait to see what she's been promised in exchange for not explaining to the media how the PM's office dictated the distribution of pre-election largesse. This could take 6 months but I expect it'll be less than that.

    There is some humour in a minister joining a gun club and immediately shooting herself in the foot.

    Anyway, now the focus on political corruption can move to other targets. Let's hope the true story can be revealed soon.

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    No fault admitted, but as deputy Nat leader she has to be given a ministry.
    Something in health perhaps? As you say minister for self inflicted foot injuries?

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    It'll be outside politics. She's no longer a viable politician. Probably foreign service somewhere. Some public servant who's worked for their entire life for the benefit of the country will be displaced to make way for this idiot. That's generally the way it goes.

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    Hmm, the Vatican is too good for her, maybe as Charge d'affair* to some US gun toting state?

    * a state's diplomatic representative in a minor country.

    (Have we a position vacant in St Helena)

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    Probably something like that. There's also the possibility that some mining company, or similar, will pick her up as a `favour'. As long as she's around, there's always the potential for her to blow her stack over something and reveal all, so Scummo will want her as far away as possible, and happy.

    The Nats will want payback now, too. Taylor's head on a plate and a Nat replacement might do. That would be a win-win-win.

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    The Sports Rorts affair has a way to go it seems. Quite apart from the Nats likely having a complete leadership spill. And it seems that the PM's office may be also implicated.
    And Korman is saying that the Auditor General's report is not actually relevant, that it's always up to the minister…………….
    And that Sports Australia is not a body with any authority.
    And the PM's tame advisor has found that nothing wrong was done.

    What a pack of crooks.

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    It's hopelessly corrupt. The PM's office decides how the funds should be distributed and then does it, very badly. Then the Minister (i.e., rabbit in the headlights) cops the blame for the FU. Then the PM appoints the person who managed the distribution of taxpayer funds (i.e., de facto Coalition campaign funds) to ensure that the rabbit gets the blame and his own office is exonerated.

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    Re the Nat's 'leadership'.. what price Barney?

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    They'd have to be a complete set of morons to reinstall BJ. So yes, he has a good chance.

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    In like Flynn.

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    Tee-Hee-Hee
    Second video down - Morrison on bad judgement calls during the black saturday bush fires.....

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-r...ans-to-account
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    So many of them are crooks that the honest ones are lost in the rush to the bottom.

    And don't you like the way they keep referring to a 'mistake' rather than outright corruption. And scomo's head of department's reputation is trashed regardless of whether he was partisan or not.

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    He was PM's chief of staff when the sports grants were distributed. Having him 'investigate' is ridiculous.

    Now Canavan is stabbing McCormack in the back in favour of BJ. Like having Ivan Milat heading up your fan club - but no one loves attention like BJ so he'd be a pig in mud tonight. So, could the Nat's really be so stupid? Oh, yeah!

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    Q&A bushfire special.
    Molan as Govt. rep in full defensive mode demanding 'fact checks'. His body langage says it all by itself.

    Much evidence of mental trauma that will likely never be properly resolved even in members of the panel.
    Last edited by skuthorp; 02-03-2020 at 06:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Q&A bushfire special.
    Molan as Govt. rep in full defensive mode demanding 'fact checks'. His body langage says it all by itself.

    Much evidence of mental trauma that will likely never be properly resolved even in members of the panel.
    I liked his comment about not relying on evidence in regards to his opinion on climate change.
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    Australian Women In Agriculture founder was interviewed on ABC Radio Melbourne this morning, was very clear articulate and scathing in her condemnation of CP leadership being more focused in playing political power games of self interest instead of representing the needs of constituents.
    https://awia.org.au
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    Just watched 4 Corners and Qanda. I remember saying to Kerry back in September that this is the new normal. Looks like I am not the only one who believes that.
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