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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Anyone remember Kylie Mole but?
    Fondly. Was she from Australia, You're Standing In It? I lived that show. Long gone but.

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    Scomo is having a lash at the NSW Minister for the environment - Matt Kean.
    There's something about him saying 'meet and beat' our emissions targets that brings to mind a Climate Change Lion bearing down on Scomo, while he beats the stuffing out of a puppy. That sentence is sounding shallower and shallower.


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    "Morrison told 3AW Radio he had “no idea” if Labor will aim for zero carbon emissions by 2050 but acknowledged that “we undertook to look at that through the Pacific Islands Forum commitment I gave last year”.“But we need to understand what that means – I mean, people can say that, but what does that mean for jobs? Now I can’t answer that question right now … But I’m concerned it wouldn’t be a good thing.
    People who make these commitments need to be able to tell people what it will cost them.”"

    The cost thing again, but being likely of a 'last days' persuasion he's not concerned about the inevitable consequences.

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    Emissions reductions will cost jobs - the lie of the century so far. What a fraud!

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    For every job lost in coal there'd be what, 2,3,20 in renewables research, installing solar large and small, wind farms, pumped hydro, etc etc. Maybe more labour cost (more jobs) but less (zero) fuel costs. Yeah that's something to worry about.

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    In any case, it's a transitional process. Nothing gets shut down immediately and there'll still be plenty of coal mined and exported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Emissions reductions will cost jobs - the lie of the century so far. What a fraud!

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    It's not about jobs, it's about spec investments and redundunt industries that donate as lot to the LibNats. BTW, and sound from Gina lately?


    BTW, the Private Health schemes beloved by the Libs seem to be in a death spiral because they cannot be afforded, given the long term hiatus in wages one should not be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    "Morrison told 3AW Radio he had “no idea” if Labor will aim for zero carbon emissions by 2050 but acknowledged that “we undertook to look at that through the Pacific Islands Forum commitment I gave last year”.“But we need to understand what that means – I mean, people can say that, but what does that mean for jobs? Now I can’t answer that question right now … But I’m concerned it wouldn’t be a good thing.
    People who make these commitments need to be able to tell people what it will cost them.”"

    The cost thing again, but being likely of a 'last days' persuasion he's not concerned about the inevitable consequences.
    From that it would appear he never bothered to find out.
    Albanese seems to be dithering over how much co2 reduction they would commit to if in power.
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    AMP just needs to have it's licence taken away. I mean seriously, what does it take?

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    Speaking of investment houses, so does Crown Casinos. The Vic enquiry continues…….
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-...wilkie/9056964

    I imagine that governments in general wish it would all go away.

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    Speaking of investment houses, so does Crown Casinos. The Vic enquiry continues…….
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-...wilkie/9056964

    I imagine that governments in general wish it would all go away.
    People rave about Melbourne. Okay, I went there, again. What I found was a patch of river completely surrounded by high rise - much of it Crown Casino or related to Crown Casino. Sydney's going the same way except the patch of river is bigger. Australian politics makes PNG politics look pristine.

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    The Casino site was, and construction had started as a site for the new Museum of Victoria, with the river and it's maritime precinct. A new Lib premier (Kennett) dumped it and more or less gave the site to Crown. He knew where the party finances came from. Of course he's attempted a reinvention as they all do, and gets away with it mostly. The next Lib premier (Baillieu) had handled all the real estate deals selling closed schools sites as well.

    Who'd a thunk it?

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    Kennett is the worst kind of hypocrite. Completely sold out to gambling interests and then pretends to 'work' for Beyond Blue. Only a politician could regard self-promotion as work!

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    New headline:
    Corrupt PM throws corrupt minister under train

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...probe/11890922

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    "The Prime Minister has asked the head of his department to investigate whether senator Bridget McKenzie's handling of a contentious sports grant program breached ministerial standards."

    fart…………...

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    Oh well, that's okay then. And here I was thinking he might be involved .... But, of course, I'm sure his head of department, given the way dep't heads are selected now through a completely open, impartial and equitable process (hee hee hee hee), will be completely objective and judicious in this cover up .., I mean, investigation.

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    And it's not so much about whether she did load up marginals with grants, all announced by LibNat candidates, or not.
    It's about the appearance of what she did. Corruption writ large. The Auditor General has already made that enquiry and found her guilty of corrupt practices. As a minister she should have been aware of a political conflict of interest and I'm sure she was.
    Of course the money is spent, the clubs will not pay it back, but maybe the coalition parties, and their parliamentary members should?

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    There's someone on RN saying that Morrison has a great deal of influence on Trump and that he thinks we are important strategically. Good grief.

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    You've just got to hope that this wave of right wing religious nut jobbery around the developed world recedes before we have another big war.

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    https://www.smh.com.au/national/andr...box=1579722415


    We need to raise $500 million as a minimum, I have done a PhD in marine ecology, I know the science must be done, we must take it out of this football field of politics and have peer-reviewed science ... and lay it out on the table," he said.
    The man is a self serving twat.
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    He's tried to do some good things and deserves credit for those. But here he is blinded by ideology which is aided by self-interest and inflated self-belief.

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    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Just thinking this morning about the stupidity of Australian politicians. In refusing to believe it was their dishonesty and weakness that threw them into the electoral black hole when they resurrected Rudd, the Labor Party instead blamed it on instability and brought in new rules to prevent any more leader toppling. Consequently they then got stuck with Shorten, probably the only creature in the entire Labor Party who couldn't win the unloseable election. Duh!

    And the stupid Liberals then allowed Morrison to talk them into the same arrangement after he stabbed Turnbull in the back. Now, again, it doesn't matter how hopeless he is, how despised within his own mob and the 'voting' public, they can't get rid of him unless he wants to resign - which he'd never do unless blackmailed.

    The Nazis in the Coalition and their cheer squad hate him because he isn't Abbott. The relatively enlightened members hate him because they know he's a fraud, so there's only the God squad and a few others who don't care about the actual country ... who actually support Morrison.

    Great, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Just thinking this morning about the stupidity of Australian politicians. In refusing to believe it was their dishonesty and weakness that threw them into the electoral black hole when they resurrected Rudd, the Labor Party instead blamed it on instability and brought in new rules to prevent any more leader toppling. Consequently they then got stuck with Shorten, probably the only creature in the entire Labor Party who couldn't win the unloseable election. Duh!

    And the stupid Liberals then allowed Morrison to talk them into the same arrangement after he stabbed Turnbull in the back. Now, again, it doesn't matter how hopeless he is, how despised within his own mob and the 'voting' public, they can't get rid of him unless he wants to resign - which he'd never do unless blackmailed.

    The Nazis in the Coalition and their cheer squad hate him because he isn't Abbott. The relatively enlightened members hate him because they know he's a fraud, so there's only the God squad and a few others who don't care about the actual country ... who actually support Morrison.

    Great, isn't it?

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    That pretty much sums it up.
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    The country's average IQ just went up a tiny bit:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...ition/11902574

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    I wonder if anyone in Australia actually wants Kyrgios to beat Nadal in the tennis?

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    What? Oh just more tittytainment on tele.

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    I KNOW you know who they are, have an opinion but, like me, don't watch ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    New headline:
    Corrupt PM throws corrupt minister under train

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...probe/11890922

    Rick
    Rule One;
    Never have an enquiry unless you already knoew the outcome.
    (The banking one was forced on them).
    Rule Two;
    Appoint someone 'reliable' to do it
    (your head of department and ex chief of staff will do nicely).
    Rule Three; Have a scapegoat…
    (the Nats will do nicely, with luck you might get Barney back).

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    Bridget seems in even more trouble, the Nat leader is supporting her. Will scumo dump her at tomorrows Pres Club address. Interestingly she seems to have had no legal authority to do what she did. Does that mean that the person 'responsible' should pay it back to the commonwealth? Or will Centerlink chase the clubs for redress like they did with the unemployed?

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    The Sports Association having a record of their complaint about misappropriation of the process is damning. I should think she's currently negotiating her price for not exposing those who 'made' her do it. So expect a sinecure going her way within the next 6 months. She's definitely gone as a minister.

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    Pack of crooks, and no shame about it either. But we knew that before the election and they still got back.

    Uh……..

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    The social contract that bestows authority — both moral and legal — on our political leaders is struck on the trust that they know what they are doing and will always act in our best interests:

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    Hah, the present sports minister is making excuses, saddling himself with the same bent process but excusing himself from comment based on the fires being more important.

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    Honestly, what's the delay?
    Every minute she's there is a problem for the coalition.

    Either the rules matter or they don't.

    Aparantly the backbench are fine with the process, even encourage it. They don't want to see someone slapped for 'doing the 'right' thing'.

    Clearly there are some for whom rules and integrity don't matter.


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