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    The Secretaries Group on Climate Change, has been abruptly terminated. Depts of Defence, Environment, etc involved in planning for situations where the local, or even state resources are overwhelmed.

    Government says it is no longer needed.
    (RN morning programme report)

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    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-...hange/11492886
    Professor Andy Pitman, head of the Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence for Climate Extremes, said wargaming future scenarios was exactly what the public service should be doing."Climate change is really, in the context of the government, simply a risk. And risks should always be thoroughly examined," Professor Pitman said.
    "The consequences of climate change are here now and are not something to be thought of as just in the future. But obviously with the emissions trajectories as they are it's inevitable that risks will continue."
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    The Secretaries Group on Climate Change, has been abruptly terminated. Depts of Defence, Environment, etc involved in planning for situations where the local, or even state resources are overwhelmed.

    Government says it is no longer needed.
    (RN morning programme report)
    I see we are on the same page Jeff.
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    Once again, little to be proud about, particularly his ignorance.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-oasc2m-EsGamk
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    "Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud"
    LOL!, quite an ironic ministerial title considering the situation.

    I note from The Oz that the Barwon/Darling/Murray river system is about to run out of water. "Not enough to flush the system" is the headline, and the northern basin is already more or less empty.

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    Skies are fairly clear of smoke here now and the clouds are taunting us.
    Sunset through the smoke last week, taken from a cruise ship.
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    A junk rigged 'cruise ship'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    A junk rigged 'cruise ship'?
    No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Once again, little to be proud about, particularly his ignorance.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...-oasc2m-EsGamk

    Its the double think appointment.
    Minister for natural disasters thinks the cause of climate change is irrelevant.

    "Ignorance is strength".
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    Its the double think appointment.
    Minister for natural disasters thinks the cause of climate change is irrelevant.

    "Ignorance is strength".

    ......a sorry collective of small minded dweebs.
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.




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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    Its the double think appointment.
    Minister for natural disasters thinks the cause of climate change is irrelevant.

    "Ignorance is strength".
    I think he meant to say 'inconvenient'. Politically that is. Never mind, science and the planet doesn't care who you are or what your political sensitivities are. And that applies to Roberts as well.

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    ​"Life is under no obligation to give us what we expect." Irrfan Khan. RIP

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    You guys would love it here. We sat at an empty table for a beer after a day riding around on bikes. The guy at the next table says Bonjour. Then randomly chats on and off about French politics, how Sete is nice because people are more important than money. Relationships. And Paris, a crossroads. People think we are Muslims, but that is false. People can believe what they wish to believe. Freedom. Egalite. Democracy. Vive le Revolution. Philosophy is life and life is Philosophy. Would you like a Gaulouse? He was lovely.

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    So despite being in America at the time getting orders from donald, our PM will not be attending the Climate Conference having nothing new to say. Of course he'll be busy being wined and dined, being saluted at military parades etc. Maybe don can find a medal in an old xmas cracker somewhere to pin on his chest as well.

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    Keep an eye on the Gladys Lew affair and her long connections with the Chines State.
    If she falls and a by election results in a loss for the Libs then Morrison's majority is gone in both houses. She may have been ineligible to stand, and ASIO warned Turnbull about her and her associates before it seems. $300,000 of her fund raising was returned because of it's origins. I cannot imagine that the Liberal Government was not briefed by ASIO, or another body on this matter before the election. It runs the danger of being cast as racist by Morrison as he tries to dissemble.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...ion/ar-AAH7g7b

    Watch this space.

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    ​"Life is under no obligation to give us what we expect." Irrfan Khan. RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Keep an eye on the Gladys Lew affair and her long connections with the Chines State.
    If she falls and a by election results in a loss for the Libs then Morrison's majority is gone in both houses. She may have been ineligible to stand, and ASIO warned Turnbull about her and her associates before it seems. $300,000 of her fund raising was returned because of it's origins. I cannot imagine that the Liberal Government was not briefed by ASIO, or another body on this matter before the election. It runs the danger of being cast as racist by Morrison as he tries to dissemble.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...ion/ar-AAH7g7b

    Watch this space.
    Wonder if she has dual citizenship?
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    They should just get a job and stop bludging off honest taxpayers, bloody whingers.
    https://amp.smh.com.au/politics/fede...QgVq-nLm_wK55U
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Keep an eye on the Gladys Lew affair and her long connections with the Chines State.
    If she falls and a by election results in a loss for the Libs then Morrison's majority is gone in both houses.
    I hadn't picked that one.
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    As usual, brilliant First Dog.
    Yes, that is particularly good.

    And as if written by the same artist;
    Scott Morrison will not attend the UN climate action summit despite him being in America to visit the Trump administration at the time – deploying the foreign minister, Marise Payne, and the Australian ambassador for the environment, Patrick Suckling, instead.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...eing-in-the-us


    History will not look favourably on these malicious fools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    I hadn't picked that one.
    And for further interest. The Chinese immigrant ALP candidate for the election, narrowly beaten, was also a member of the same organisation……..
    Curiouser and Curiouser…….

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    This is a classic...what are these people on?
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    Sixty years eh, that'd be interesting. Who would be the climate refugees then?
    I've heard about that before, supposedly the Aboriginal population was still recovering when Cook, and then Phillip and the fleet arrived. Parts of the country never recovered.
    Which brings into play that '6 year' dry.

    I once heard from an aboriginal group in the Kimberlys that there was a legend that the whites would eventually leave again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Sixty years eh, that'd be interesting. Who would be the climate refugees then?
    I've heard about that before, supposedly the Aboriginal population was still recovering when Cook, and then Phillip and the fleet arrived. Parts of the country never recovered.
    Which brings into play that '6 year' dry.

    I once heard from an aboriginal group in the Kimberlys that there was a legend that the whites would eventually leave again.
    I've never heard of it and google doesn't pop anything up. I would like to know where the information came from, surely not a god forbid, scientist!
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    Okay another one from the WTF department.
    Polyurethane grouting at Waratah Rivulet in the Woronora catchment 'Special Area'. Subsidence caused by long wall coal mining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Okay another one from the WTF department.
    Polyurethane grouting at Waratah Rivulet in the Woronora catchment 'Special Area'. Subsidence caused by long wall coal mining.
    coal mine damage.jpg
    That's hardly a new thing. Underground mining has been causing subsidence at the surface in NSW for near on 150 years. The grouting is a common method of dealing with its effects too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    That's hardly a new thing. Underground mining has been causing subsidence at the surface in NSW for near on 150 years. The grouting is a common method of dealing with its effects too.
    Polyurethane? That repairs the damage how? I am aware the subsidence has been a problem for a long time.
    Also given the status of the area how is it a mining company can get away with causes such damage? If a citizen did so much as chip a rock it would be vandalism.
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    I don’t know what to think about the Gladys Liu thing. Declaration of bias I have a Chinese nephew by marriage who seems a pretty regular fella, came here at the age of 2. Employed by a bank as a manager in one of those suburbs where the street signs are in Chinese, so I imagine he might be a member of all sorts of China relevant organisations in order to network a bit. I’ll give him the third degree next time I see him and find out.
    So Gladys apparently came here from Hong Kong before China was running it, so I’m imagining she probLy wasn’t inserted as a sleeper by Chou en Lai or whoever was the boss back then. If membership of an organisation is a crime to unfit you as a ‘fit and proper person’ there might be a number of non Chinese organisations that might qualify. In fact the Labor Party, with its total disregard on electoral donations, and record of Dastyari etc, just might be one of them. Dunno what Albo is thinking here, think he’s got it all wong.

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    https://www.cato.org/blog/1000-year-...rrence-big-dry

    This might be a start to finding the research on this stuff. They mention Vance et al, which would probably find the paper.
    i think you should also read the Barwon Darling paper before condemning Pavey too much. She has made some good recomendations I think.

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    Well stun me with a brick, Littleproud, despite not accepting AGW and actually claiming to not knowing much about it, now claims he accepts the science behind it and always has!
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ce?CMP=soc_567
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    Shape shifter no less!!
    Sure he's not one of those lizard people……………..?

    (He probably had to get permission)
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    Unions went onto a site - manager says his islander workers are too stupid to understand safety concerns so there is no way the unions claims could be right.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...s-smart-safety

    "But but but but, what i meant to say was.........."

    Queensland government workplace inspectors issued eight enforcement notices, which require the business to make safety improvements, and issued one $3,600 fine for a failure to maintain a complete register of chemicals.
    "but but but but........."
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Not the first time slave labour has been used in Queensland, and on that note I hope someone is making sure they get paid, into their own accounts. Not into some government or private authority where it would disappear. Again.

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    These are the guys who don't need to worry about rising sea levels because they can come here and pick fruit, right?

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    On the subject of slave labour and in this case the transported convicts, it is worth while listening to last night's, (14th) Late Night live with Philip Adams on RN.
    Tony Moore: https://research.monash.edu/en/persons/anthony-moore
    and Michael Quinlan: https://www.business.unsw.edu.au/our...michaelquinlan
    interviewed.
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