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    I don't understand the left's dislike of our extreme right. I think they are great, and that it is our duty to uphold their right to speak and protest.

    Of course, I don't agree with their hateful drivel - but our far right are such a bunch of idiots that they'll never amount to anything. They will keep on screeching and being stupid and taking the oxygen away from any efficient, effective nazis who may otherwise develop. I went to a protest against them and it was very comforting to see how vacuous and useless they were.

    An effective, intelligent bunch of nazis could be a minor problem, but these guys have no Himmler or Goebbels in their midst. We should let them be, just like some people let black snakes hang around because they keep out the King Browns. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Let's hope Herr Dutton is in a generous mood, this one is a genuine refugee. But even then she'll have to be careful where she goes and with whom. Might end up in an acid bath at the embassy…………………...
    Indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    There's a push by the Greens to get her papers so she can come here. The Saudis have a very poor track record on how they treat wayward women.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46770612
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    Peta for MP?

    What are the Libs thinking?

    "What better example is there that the Liberal party must split than the proposed nomination of Peta Credlin for the seat of Mallee.
    If, as Credlin says, “climate change remains Malcolm Turnbull’s kryptonite”, then her preselection could just be the Liberal party’s dynamite. The split already exists, but for now, it’s being held together with sticky tape and string. And Credlin’s preselection could well be the spark that lights the fuse, and blows the whole thing up.
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    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-liberal-party

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    Go,go,go!!!BOOOM!
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    Credlin in Mallee is about the biggest mis-match that I can think of. In Tony's seat maybe but Mallee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Credlin in Mallee is about the biggest mis-match that I can think of. In Tony's seat maybe but Mallee?
    Does she know where it is?
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    Was it ever a condition that you actually had to live in the electorate to be elected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Was it ever a condition that you actually had to live in the electorate to be elected?
    Thought I'd better do some research and find out where she is from, so maybe she does know where it is.
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    Well, I apologise. But I cannot imagine her moving back soon……………...

    She's still not a good match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    ....gyppo....

    Now there's a blast from the past!
    Remember those days when it was okay to be a racist wife beater?

    Peta will bring it all back.
    Hell, i bet she campaigns so we can have coal fireplaces in our homes again.
    I do miss the smell of burning coal, or is that the Liberal party on fire?
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    There's a push by the Greens to get her papers so she can come here. The Saudis have a very poor track record on how they treat wayward women.
    She has rejected Islam, an automatic death sentence.
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    While hubby is a dis-endorsed LIB "strategist" touting their reactionary policies, one Brian Loughnane. Peas in a swiftly imploding pod. Wonder how soon the reactionary right spectrum will form a compact to "reclaim 'Straya" ? New Guard redux. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post

    Now there's a blast from the past!
    Remember those days when it was okay to be a racist wife beater?

    Peta will bring it all back.
    Hell, i bet she campaigns so we can have coal fireplaces in our homes again.
    I do miss the smell of burning coal, or is that the Liberal party on fire?
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    NSW 2018, hottest driest year ever.
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    Vic too. This year will likely break that.

    But Eric tells us it's not happening…………………..

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    Bernard Collaery's observations of our governments inclination to bend the rules.
    Rules hard won and kept for good reasons.

    Points well made, well researched though a bit dense at times for me.
    https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...quilibrium.pdf
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    Yet no mention of Whitlam's duplicity
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    I liked this in response to the hype over African gangs in Melbourne.
    anglo violence.jpg
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    Thank you gypsie. I have been pointing this out for some time…………...

    "65.It is too easily forgotten that after the military tribunals in 1945, the 12 Nuremberg successor trials embraced corporate executives, judges and lawyers, and Foreign Ministry diplomats. In particular, recalling the terrible fate that awaited so many Timorese who died and were dispossessed soon after 28 November 1975 we should recall the trials before the International Military Tribunal of the German public servants who directed the expropriation of Jewish assets in occupied territories. There has to be a moral reckoning if we are to clear our national conscience over our exploitation of the Timorese. Until we put law-breaking politicians and their accessories to their trial we never will"

    And the corruption was at the very top of our government. As for Australia's various AG's, some were very dodgy indeed, Barwick being the first crook to hold the job that I can personally remember.

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    Littleproud has little to be proud about.
    https://www.smh.com.au/environment/s...yXQZyecXloBFtw
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    Succinct. BTW OZ freshwater fish aestivate.
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    The political and bureaucratic silence over the Menindee Lakes is somewhat deafening. Scummo up in arms over Australia Day and the Libs n Labor trying to out do each other over funding for Kakadu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    The political and bureaucratic silence over the Menindee Lakes is somewhat deafening. Scummo up in arms over Australia Day and the Libs n Labor trying to out do each other over funding for Kakadu.
    neither of the majors gives damn about our environment .
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    Politics is a bloody good reason for not living too long.
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    Who? Them or us?

    Having had a big interest in politics since I was about 12, my summation is that either none of them can be trusted, or that the party system is totally corrupted and corrupts all it touches. Probably 45%/45% with 10% you can actually believe. Trouble is of course who are that 10%.

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    https://www.theage.com.au/environmen...OApAIfOgiew-RA

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    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-...ction/10696090'
    David Leyonhjelm to quit federal politics and contest NSW election

    By Paige Cockburn
    Updated 7 Jan 2019, 9:07pm
    PHOTO: David Leyonhjelm will contest the NSW state election in March. (ABC News: Luke Stephenson)
    RELATED STORY: David Leyonhjelm: Australians don't realise guns are fun when used safely
    RELATED STORY: Leyonhjelm struggling to find colleague support in Hanson-Young defamation case
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    Liberal Democrats Senator David Leyonhjelm has announced he will quit federal politics so he can contest the New South Wales state election.
    Key points

    • Senator Leyonhjelm needs 4.5 per cent of the vote to be elected to the NSW Legislative Council
    • He plans to campaign for the legalisation of recreational cannabis and pill testing
    • He will be competing with One Nation and other conservative minor parties



    Senator Leyonhjelm is expected to resign as early as February 28 and will attempt to win a seat in the NSW Upper House in March.
    He was first elected to the Senate in 2013 and was re-elected in 2016.
    Speaking to Sky News this evening, Senator Leyonhjelm said he is making the switch because he wants to work on "nanny-state issues".
    "Red-tape issues are the ones that really annoy me and get up my nose," he said.
    "For example liquor licensing, where you can smoke, where you can vape, gambling, lock-out laws in Sydney, assisted suicide."
    He said one issue he would be taking to the NSW election would be the legalisation of cannabis, which he unsuccessfully tried to pass in Federal Parliament.
    "I think there's much more hope of achieving that at the state level," he said.
    PHOTO: Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young launched defamation action against Senator Leyonhjelm. (ABC News: Jed Cooper)
    "The police waste an enormous amount of time chasing people growing a bit of a dope."
    He also said he would support the contentious issue of pill-testing at music festivals, which NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian has ruled out.
    "The idea that pill-testing shouldn't be used because it gives the green light to kids to take drugs is a cruel attitude to something that's taking young kids' lives," he said.
    Senator Leyonhjelm attracted his fair share of controversy during his time in the Federal Parliament, including the accusation he "slut-shamed" Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young.
    He is now facing a defamation lawsuit from the Senator for allegedly accusing her of making "the absurd claim that all men are rapists".
    In 2016, he criticised Australia's gun laws and said the majority of people have no experience with guns and therefore do not realise when used safely "they are a lot of fun".
    The 'accidental' senator

    Senator Leyonhjelm was elected in 2013 almost by accident.
    The Liberal Democrats polled a surprising 9.5 per cent of the vote, helped by the party's position in the first column of the ballot paper, which confused many voters looking for the Liberals and Nationals group.
    Preferences from other parties ensured his victory and prevented the election of a Green.
    Senator Leyonhjelm faced a tougher challenge winning re-election in 2016.
    The Turnbull government's changes to Senate voting rules cut off flows of minor party preferences to the Liberal Democrats.
    The party polled 3.1 per cent, enough after preferences to win the final vacancy at a double dissolution.
    What are his chances at state level?

    ABC election analyst Antony Green said Senator Leyonhjelm had little chance of election under the higher 14.3 per cent quota required at a half-Senate election.
    "But 3.1 per cent is a strong starting point for election to the NSW Legislative Council where the quota is a much lower 4.55 per cent", he said.
    Antony Green said Senator Leyonhjelm will face significant competition from other conservative minor parties.
    "Mark Latham will head Pauline Hanson's One Nation ticket and is likely to poll in excess of a quota, possibly polling well enough to win a second seat," he said.
    "He will also be competing with the Christian Democrats and the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party, both of whom have won seats at the last four NSW elections."
    He said Senator Leyonhjelm will have to resign from the Senate by early March to nominate for the state election.
    "His Senate replacement must be from the Liberal Democrats, but it may not be possible for his vacancy to be filled.
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    ​"Life is under no obligation to give us what we expect." Irrfan Khan. RIP

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    Dry and getting dryer, Melb Uni have 'reconstructed' 800 years of historic droughts and found recent ones are 'unprecedented' in thos terms.


    http://climatecollege.unimelb.edu.au...orst-800-years

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    As I said, Oz had worse in paleofluvial terms BUT the management by virtue of small scale retention by sumps, billabongs, anabranches etc kept the landscape and subsurface basins (arterial etc) able to sustain the continent. Now it,s all abt greedy gubbah imperatives.
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    Correct Purri
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    And on the subject 35c here today and for the next 5 or so. Inland much worse.

    Ed to say, actually 38 at 3.42 pm.
    Last edited by skuthorp; 01-13-2019 at 11:42 PM.

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    24C here now, very comfortsble
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    Touching 49c in Port Augusta and Tarcoola yesterday………………… Meekathara had 33c as it minimum yesterday. But it's the length of the heatwave and its spread without a change that's the difference with the past.

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