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    I think it ironic, and entirely appropriate that he represents a seat named after Artie Fadden!

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    A good demonstration of "Liberal" values.
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    One must, of course, allow that the member has a difficult sense of humour and it was a case of extremely droll satire………………...

    Difficult to tell without the tone of voice………..

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    I salute your generousity Jeff !
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    Droll - its just too close, and Tanya's contrast is so clear.
    The Libs just don;t need that kind of humour I'd guess - not right now.

    Where are the tax cuts at - any traction. Back being dead in the water?
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    I don't know what Barnaby's new partner sees in him. The man has a case of foot in mouth that a centipede would have trouble matching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    Droll - its just too close, and Tanya's contrast is so clear.
    The Libs just don;t need that kind of humour I'd guess - not right now.

    Where are the tax cuts at - any traction. Back being dead in the water?
    What's the latest on Pauline's Dictatorship Party's support for the tax cuts?
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    Maybe its his complexion?
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    Medium tomato?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Medium tomato?
    Glad I wasn't drinking when I saw that.
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    Five year old murdered this morning in a 'domestic incident'. MURDERED.

    About time the media stopped trivialising with 'domestic incident' headlines..

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    I had to turn the radio off.
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    Looks like Albo is making a run! Oh frabjous day!
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    I'll listen to the news later, good luck Albo.
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    I am somewhat torn in this matter, in that I think that Bill would make a better modern PM. but I recognise that he carries a lot of propaganda baggage from the right. They think he'd make a better PM too.

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    ^^^^ Oy veh, oy gevalt, No doubt Danby will invoke his preferred and omniscient supporters/financial supporters to undermine the process.. BTW Bowen as OZ opposition Treasurer has a good and Measured profile.. Anyway way roll on the demise of the Berejerklian/ Baird MACWANK regime. What a loooooooaad of corporate shills!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    I am somewhat torn in this matter, in that I think that Bill would make a better modern PM. but I recognise that he carries a lot of propaganda baggage from the right. They think he'd make a better PM too.
    True, but he is close to unelectable.
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    I see that Naru is well on the way to a dictatorship and the Aus government, even if it wanted to, are caught by the short and curlies by their detainee policies.

    Hi Purri.
    Good article on Tumlarens in WB 262.

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    Gibbme a PM with A landline and mobile. I got time off thanks to the usual with the usual. As it stated in the mgs umlauts are unacceptable. How quaint! BTW someone here requested my landline and mobile from "gypsie" some 6 weeks back but there has been no comms extant. I provided such with his profile and my synopsis of his persona. Is it a troll? So far I perceive so
    I do perceive as such yet another recent arriviste mired in the colonial mantra. Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    I see that Naru is well on the way to a dictatorship and the Aus government, even if it wanted to, are caught by the short and curlies by their detainee policies.

    Hi Purri.
    Good article on Tumlarens in WB 262.
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    A Vietnames refugee, now a scientist, who came here in the 1970's has been awarded the highest level of the AO for his work. Dutton probably would not have allowed him in, and may be keeping a future scientist or some such valuable citizen in a camp on Naru or Manus. Both distinctly dodgy governments where democracy is concerned.


    The other interesting matter here is the ACT 'reportable conduct' legislation re child abuse and the Catholic church in particular. Due to come in on 1 July with a 9 month religious amnesty for them to get their act in order.
    http://www.ombudsman.act.gov.au/repo...conduct-scheme
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Five year old murdered this morning in a 'domestic incident'. MURDERED.

    About time the media stopped trivialising with 'domestic incident' headlines..
    Seems the father tried desperately to get mental help but was either refused or just had his meds doubled.
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    So the State is at least partially responsible………………..

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    A fun read on why we need America to be great again.
    https://www.news.com.au/finance/work...cfa7ea0dd318ae
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    Indeed Gary, very interesting and a very plausible scenario supported by history.
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    The rise of China is inexorable though, 22 years eh?
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    So we have to take them, because we made a promise to the UN.
    But we don't have to be nice to them.
    In fact, we can be complete c#'s to them. We can not only make off shore detention so disgusting, we can even make their conditions in Australia so bad that returning to torture and death is preferable.

    Australia finds a new ways to torture torture victims.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...coalition-cuts

    The current Australian asylum seekers policy seems to be;
    Make their security and stability tenuous, tell everyone that they may be kicked out, point out how broken they are to everyone and then break them a little more - that is, reduce them to sub-human and make them unemployable. Then force them to, get work they can't possibly get or starve, especially if they try and actually get involved and become contributing proud human beings.

    many others who were brought to Australia for acute medical or mental health problems, including elderly people, have also been told to support themselves.
    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Though you might like this.
    post turtle.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsie View Post
    So we have to take them, because we made a promise to the UN.
    But we don't have to be nice to them.
    In fact, we can be complete c#'s to them. We can not only make off shore detention so disgusting, we can even make their conditions in Australia so bad that returning to torture and death is preferable.

    Australia finds a new ways to torture torture victims.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australi...coalition-cuts

    The current Australian asylum seekers policy seems to be;
    Make their security and stability tenuous, tell everyone that they may be kicked out, point out how broken they are to everyone and then break them a little more - that is, reduce them to sub-human and make them unemployable. Then force them to, get work they can't possibly get or starve, especially if they try and actually get involved and become contributing proud human beings.
    Dutton is slime but that seems to be a requirement for the position of Official Discourager of Refugees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Funny!
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    BTW have you ever seen Alston's eyes?
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    Dutton is slime but that seems to be a requirement for the position of Official Discourager of Refugees.
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    I rather take the attitude that anyone going into politics for ethical and idealistic reasons cannot last.
    The ones that do are either sociopaths, psychopaths or a combination of both.
    That is probably a little unkind, but the system and the job would soon herd you into those categories despite yourself.

    And I guess in reality it's the power trip, and the party organisations that are the truly evil part of the Business.

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    But the horror of it is that after nearly 20 years of anti refugee propaganda the populace has been turn and no party, bar the Greens, is game to say a word about our little concentration camps, other than to praise and promise to continue indefinite detention of the innocent.
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    Not politics, but driest autumn since 1902.

    Although dry conditions had been a feature over significant parts of the continent since 1894, it was only this year (1902 that large-scale drought began to become genuinely disastrous.
    January and February were wet over Tasmania, but distinctly dry further north, and despite a heavy storm over southern Victoria and the settled areas of South Australia, March continued the trend of complete summer rainfall failure in New South Wales and Queensland. Most areas of those two states had their lowest rainfall for the November to March period on record, and April was even worse—being averaged over Australia, the driest month of the twentieth century, with a rainfall of only 3 millimetres (0.12 in). Sheep and cattle over the inland pastoral districts were already starving, and so extensive was the drought that agistment was not available in any place to which transport could be arranged. The result was that sheep died in numbers that have never been equalled before or since: some sources estimate that half the sheep population was lost in the drought.[10]
    Although in southwestern Australia—often looked upon as a "saviour" when the rains fail further east—the rainy season began on time in May, the dry weather continued without a break in the eastern states. Then, despite June being quite wet in southern Victoria, Tasmania and even parts of South Australia, the month's rain was associated with cold outbreaks that produced extremely severe frosts and several cases of low-level snowfalls. Oatlands recorded a temperature as low as −12 C (10 F) during one of these outbreaks, and snow fell in Hobart. Worse still,[10] northern New South Wales and southern Queensland remained as dry as ever, and southwestern Australia was very dry.
    Despite torrential rains in July around Eden and heavy rains in the far southwest of Western Australia, rainless or near-rainless conditions continued elsewhere with extremely severe frosts. August was the driest-ever winter month in Perth with only 12 millimetres (0.47 in), and Melbourne, equally dry, set a record for lowest mean August minimum temperature at 4.5 C (40.1 F) broken only in 1943 and 1944.[11]
    Though September was wet over southern Western Australia and a single heavy storm produced above-average rainfall in eastern Tasmania and southern Victoria, and October saw very heavy coastal rains in New South Wales (Sydney's 162 millimetres (6.38 in) on the 13th is still its wettest-ever October day), unrelenting dryness inland combined with hot northerly winds saw one of the worst dust storms ever hit Melbourne on 12 November.[12] Any hope for the wheat crop had gone as early as the end of August, and yields were close to the worst ever.
    Although November 1902 later proved a very wet month in a band of country between about Southern Crossand Jundah, it was still very dry in more coastal areas.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_Drought#1902

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    It's been very dry up here too, wetter than down south but dry for us.
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