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    No, it was black letter. You should read up on the case...... but of course you already know don't you ?
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    Canavan, so I heard, was declared ok because Italian law is so chaotic on the subject that even they couldn't give a definitive answer.
    Re Nick: ''I wrote to the Greek embassy and Cypriot high commission saying essentially, ‘I’ve never been a citizen, I don’t want to be, so if there’s any question that I could be, I renounce any rights to be’. I don’t know what else I can do in the circumstances.” He added that he had not received replies to these enquiries.[133] Later he said that he had renounced Greek citizenship but, on finding that he might be British, he had sought clarification from British authorities.[134] On 19 August he announced that British authorities had confirmed that he is a British Overseas Citizen, a form of British nationality which does not grant a right to live in the UK".
    I understand he cannot vote in the UK, enjoys none of the priveliges and needs a visa to visit.

    Bit bored this arvo Ian, frustrated? Feeling a bit testy maybe?

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    Seeing Ian brought up guns, an old subject, Adler shotguns. Something I've said before a combination of the Adler 5 shot and OOO ammunition is deadly. The Adler can fire 5 rounds in 15 seconds and with OOO rounds at 8 per cartridge, that is 40 x 9 mm diameter lead balls in 15 seconds. A true massacre weapon.



    Adlers have been reclassified http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vic...16f2c048d0efa1
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    I wouldn't expect you to notice anything you didn't write yourself.
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    You're confused again.
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    Morrison on 7.30 making a hash of saying 'nothing going on here, move on please' to paraphrase his continuous babble.
    I forsee serious criticism of the ABC for asking the wrong questions.

    More or less saying the HC got it……….well right but they shouldn't have.
    Blaming the ALP of course, I think he's been watching Donald. The fact that several coalitions MP's are inelligible is Shorten's fault. Quite a performance...

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    Damn! Missed it, Morrison doesn't do it very well.
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    How did he explain the ALP being to blame for Nats not reading the constitution ?
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    He said that 'people aren't interested in MP's genealogy and that the ALP should be worrying about jobs not creating problems in parliament'. Funny really, seems it doesn't matter if a LibNat is voting illegally. Maybe they think that if no one says anything the problem will go away, till next time?

    Of course Ian, you have one outlook, me another, and Peter another I think.
    It baffles me the resistance to an audit unless the majors think that so many would be caught up a general election, rather than many by-elections, may be necessary.

    Another blow to the reputation of parliament and it's denizens.
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    Apparently the HC was interested, that's enough.
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    Malcolm didn't think it worked the way it did either…….

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    Liberals !
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    Just Liberals? Try them all..
    Try a coalition, ………….a cone of silence……………… between Bill and Mal…….. LOL Aus.

    And Josh too? I doubt that one.

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    Home / Politics / Australian Head Of State Forced To Resign After British Citizenship Revealed

    Australian Head Of State Forced To Resign After British Citizenship Revealed

    By The Shovel on July 16, 2017

    The most senior figure in the Australian governmental system has been forced to stand aside after it was found she holds a British passport. It is the seventh resignation since related to dual citizenship issue since August.
    Like six others who were forced to resign, Australia’s head of state was found to have foreign citizenship. Although, embarrassingly, she apparently does not hold Australian citizenship either.
    It is unclear how the error went unnoticed for so long – the position has been occupied for over 50 years. She will be allowed to run for the position again as soon as she renounces her British citizenship and takes up Australian citizenship.




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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-03/labor-softens-stance-on-a-citizenship-audit/9113854?section=politics

    The Federal Opposition is softening its stance on an audit of all parliamentarians' citizenship, but still needs to be convinced how such a process would work.
    Six politicians have lost their jobs in Canberra's dual citizenship fiasco, with the departure of former Senate president Stephen Parry resulting in a surge of public support from the Coalition's backbench for an investigation of members and senators' nationality to be launched.
    Until now, the Turnbull Government and the Labor Party have been advocating against an audit.
    But the ABC understands Opposition Leader Bill Shorten could still back the proposal and senior Labor figures are of the opinion the party has everything to win and nothing to lose from such a process.
    Despite the party's staunch defence of its own vetting processes, the view is that Labor would remain in Opposition if any of its members were knocked out in an audit.
    In the event the Coalition suffers casualties, it could prompt by-elections and threaten Malcolm Turnbull's Government.
    A senior Labor source suggests Mr Shorten remains unconvinced about exactly how such an audit would work, and has concerns about any legal and constitutional issues it could cause.
    Do we need an audit?



    The Greens are ramping up calls for a full investigation of the citizenship of every MP and senator. But the major parties have so far resisted.

    Labor's Senate leader Penny Wong argued nothing would replace the authority of the High Court in adjudicating such cases.
    Mr Parry's resignation, just four days after the High Court ruled five other politicians had breached the constitution's ban on dual citizens sitting in Parliament, has prompted Liberal backbenchers to join the demands for an audit.
    "This is now a festering sore for the Parliament," former defence minister Kevin Andrews told AM.
    "If it's not dealt with now, it'll just continue to be an issue, there'll be investigations into other people, it'll be an ongoing issue."
    Tasmanian Liberal senator Eric Abetz argued his former colleague Mr Parry did the right thing in owning up to his dual citizenship, but said the public's faith in their elected officials was slipping.
    "I have never been one to suggest that all wisdom resides between my two ears, but I believe that this is a matter that needs to be resolved for the integrity of the Parliament, to enable Australians to retain confidence in the Parliament," he told Lateline.
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    I get the feeling that Rupert is a bit over Malcolm……………...

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    Morning all, conflicts of interest re the Queensland premier, her husband, Adani, the government loan and the Greens vote.
    Things are getting warm.

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    Did you see the footage of Malcolm smiling at the NZ PM?. Talk about look demented.
    Oh and the leaked Paradise papers...this is going to be fun.
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    and Gary's Leunig cartoon.

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    Well well, who'd a thunk it?
    "Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull is trying to end the uncertainty over the citizenship of politicians.Key points:

    • MPs and senators would be asked to lodge a declaration including details about any country other than Australia where they may be a citizen
    • Penalty for providing a false declaration unclear, PM says it would be up to the Parliament to decide
    • Once both houses agree, politicians will have 21 days to lodge



    He has announced a plan to force MPs and senators to lodge a declaration when they are elected that they are not a citizen of any country other than Australia.
    Mr Turnbull said his plan would mean if politicians had ever been citizens of another country, they would have to say where and when they renounced it.
    The new system would be overseen by the parliamentary office that keeps track of politicians financial interests."


    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-0...-rules/9122834

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    A bit of bipartisan sanity.
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    And another one makes enquiries……..
    John Alexander.

    We certainly need some sanity in the parliament………………… Actually some time to do some work would be good too………...

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    Turnbull is looking a bit tired these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    And another one makes enquiries……..
    John Alexander.

    We certainly need some sanity in the parliament………………… Actually some time to do some work would be good too………...
    Priorities , priorities !!
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    They're hanging for the Xmas hols I reckon………. Minute by minute by minute………...

    BTW, section 44, a history.
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    Hey! Backflip!

    Let's not quibble Labour please. Oh you can crow a bit, politics is politics, but give the PM some credit.

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    There's nothing wrong with a backflip if the result is sane .
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    Pauline may have dual citizenship, it just keeps getting better.
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    Amateur hour…er decade in Canberra, watch it now.

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    Has anyone mentioned that our head of state is not even an Australian?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Pauline may have dual citizenship, it just keeps getting better.
    I don't care if it's not actually true, it made me grin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Pauline may have dual citizenship, it just keeps getting better.

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    Apparently Turnbull has a Jewish grandmother and is entitled to citizenship of Israel.

    There is no end to this story.
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