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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    They're currently advertising hotel nights in Tasmania for me ! I wonder why?
    I`m using Firefox browser and I have no ad banner at all ???

    I do run ad blocker and this ;

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    It doesn't worry me, I'm using Chrome so I should expect ads. Firefox was playing up for me recently but seem OK again now .
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    If the big bad company offered accident cover the courier would start to look like an employee. He's not he doesn't want to be the company doesn't want him to be. He's not entitled to anything except maybe his own income protection insurance if he doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    They're currently advertising hotel nights in Tasmania for me ! I wonder why?
    Viagra and Russian dating services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    If the big bad company offered accident cover the courier would start to look like an employee. He's not he doesn't want to be the company doesn't want him to be. He's not entitled to anything except maybe his own income protection insurance if he doesn't work.
    No

    The big bad Company does not have to offer the insurance Phil.

    The big bad Company could just negotiate a deal for x amount of drivers on their behalf.

    The big bad Company would lose nothing.And who cares if the courier " starts to look like an employee " ? He is anyway in many ways.
    Dog eat dog mentality.
    It never works as well as co-operation , never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Viagra and Russian dating services.
    Forward them to the White House................

    Gumtree/boats at the moment.

    Hmmm. If I advertise my boat on Gumtree and it appears in a banner does that constitute a violation of the ad. rules............ Or don't they exist any more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Forward them to the White House................

    Gumtree/boats at the moment.

    Hmmm. If I advertise my boat on Gumtree and it appears in a banner does that constitute a violation of the ad. rules............ Or don't they exist any more?
    I think you would be on safe ground Jeff , after all , you did not place the banner.

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    I just love those existential questions..............

    BTW, here's a fixer upper for $250.......


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    If that's a fixer upper you are more of an optimist than sometimes appears.

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    Don't you like smelling the flowers while rowing Phil?

    Coat a paint, oars, sunscreen, pfd. She'll be right.........

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    BTW, politics; seems that we are not amused by the machinations of the majors.............

    "Australia is poised for widespread political instability as more than one in four voters flee the two-party system, political analysts say.Disgust and disappointment with major parties is approaching historic levels as Australians follow British and Americans voters and reject new age politics.
    A major realignment of political fault lines looms and if Europe and America are any indications, Australian politics could revert to protectionism versus free trade.
    Previously, a 25 per cent primary vote for non-governing parties has been a red warning light for major Australian political parties.
    In the 2016 federal election, the warning light started blinking deep amber, with a primary vote of 23 per cent for the minor parties in the House of Representatives.
    Now, opinion poll after poll point to the vote for the minor parties breaching the 25 per cent tipping point at the next federal election due in 2019."

    http://www.standard.net.au/story/453...rties/?cs=2452


    And they are not too fussed about the power pricing situation and are going off the grid in droves. This will eventually create problems for the business models of the intermediaries that at present cream off the profits.

    "The federal government has been warned that the rise in spending on solar energy systems is clear evidence households have "lost faith" in their energy suppliers, as they move to get greater control over the cost of their electricity bill.
    In its submission to the Finkel Review which is being conducted into the future security of the electricity market, Energy Consumers Australia said its research has highlighted the shift that is now emerging.
    "While assumptions are often made that generous feed-in-tariffs and solar PV's clean attributes have been the primary motivators for their uptake, our research indicates that the primary reasons consumers are investing in this technology is to manage consumption and gain control of costs. The desire for independence from the grid is a particularly strong driver for early interest in battery storage," it says.
    "We see this as a clear indication that consumers have lost faith in the traditional market's capacity to deliver value for money, and are taking matters into their own hands."


    http://www.smh.com.au/business/energ...16-gv07mz.html

    I noted a letter referring to the fact that a solar generator household had delivered over twice the power to the grid than they'd used, but the feed in price was not enough to cover the charge for use price. Called it legal theft.

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    Yep, the poles and wires charges are getting silly!
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    This could be a part of our heritage! Looks like it might be a relic from the first fleet that ran onto the rocks on an exceptionally high tide!!!! Maybe the Maritime museum could preserve it?

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    Now! If that solar generator household had battery storage...............

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    Barnaby On 774 this morning; Arrogance, confected outrage, false equivalence.
    But Brandis takes the cake for suggesting the ANZAC's fought for the right to be discriminatory.
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    Normal then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milesy%# View Post
    Now! If that solar generator household had battery storage...............
    AGL, one of our major suppliers here is trying to get ahead of the curve by sponsoring solar/battery storage on 1000 houses in SA. And independently a lot of houses are already installing batteries. The old monopolies are losing control. They don't like it. And it will get worse. Or better. There are also schemes/software that allow individual houses to trade electricity amongst themselves. It's going to be interesting for sure.

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    One of the local letter writers wanted to donate what spare power, and there was a lot, he generated to a charity body or another household. He was told it could not be done. Of course it could, and in future it will.
    New technology is going to make redundant and likely ruin the business case of many more industries. My Trade was typesetting, but I only practiced that for about 8 years and technology put me and many trade houses out of business in a very short time. In the newspapers it basicly took 3 days for the changeover.

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    On that subject I've been chatting to my 17 year old grandson and his very bright friends about the likelihood of viable work over the decades ahead with continuing tech / electronic productivity gains. They're very aware and worried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    On that subject I've been chatting to my 17 year old grandson and his very bright friends about the likelihood of viable work over the decades ahead with continuing tech / electronic productivity gains. They're very aware and worried.
    Written like a true blue Greens supporter. Scare the crap out of 'em, rather than getting them focused on solutions to the issue.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    The solutions are choosing careers that aren't as open to electronic disruption and finding those is an interesting exercise. But of course only Greens voters think ahead sufficiently to be aware of that. http://www.economist.com/news/specia...on-and-anxiety
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    Likely Peter his choice now is not where he'll end up as happened to me even all those years ago. And along the way you do all sorts.
    Does he fancy a particular field? An accountant friend of mine went into contract lawn mowing and garden care and then bought a prawn trawler. As a retiree he is a part time men's barber.
    Flexibility and agility, it's a tired joke but there's truth in it.

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    Agility and being able to turn your hand to anything has worked for me.

    The lad is interested in science, physics in particular and does OK at math. He's polite and personable, well liked.
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    Peter Reith who was contesting the presidency of the Vic. Libs has had a heart attack leaving Mick Kroger in command of the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    It doesn't worry me, I'm using Chrome so I should expect ads. Firefox was playing up for me recently but seem OK again now .
    Look for an ad blocker in the addons.

    Leigh Sales...That's not what I asked.
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    That has been going on for years and until the interviewer repeats the question say, 3 times, and then if no answer pulls the plug, and they all do it, it will continue. Reckon people all over Aus, all over the world shout to the TV "Answer the fizzing question!" and a refusal to pander to the politicians, and anyone else for that matter, would get nothing but support from the population.
    But imagine the pressure on private media to follow the owners line.
    Won't happen of course, the hypocrites will continue to run the place.

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    Seems ADANI may have been misleading shareholders as to which Adani entity has applied for the federal loan and the subsequent placement of the money in a tax haven.

    Adani Group is facing growing pressure to reveal which company in its complex corporate web has applied for a $1 billion subsided loan from the Australian Government, amid fears money could be shifted to a tax haven and investors may have been misled.
    An Australian law firm has written to the Bombay Stock Exchange asking it to clear up the confusion about a $1 billion funding application to the Federal Government's Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility (NAIF).
    The loan would finance a 400-kilometre railway from Queensland's Abbot Point Coal Terminal to a planned massive mine in the Galilee Basin, which, if it goes ahead as proposed, would contain six open-cut pits and five underground collieries.
    It is "absolutely possible" investors have been misled about the loan, lawyer David Barnden from not-for-profit law firm Environmental Justice Australia (EJA) told the ABC.
    "In terms of misleading the market, the NAIF funding is really, really important for Adani's share price," Mr Barnden explained.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-22/adani-facing-growing-pressure-investors-may-have-been-misled/8376794

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    Look for an ad blocker in the addons.

    Leigh Sales...That's not what I asked.
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    Leigh is bloody good. She looks like she needs a holiday though. Politics day in and day out must wear a person down.

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    BTW, Milesy, Wet Feet and ASAP, welcome to our little corner, nice to see some new blood in here.

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    Lambie having a go at Hanson this morning on AM, good to hear.
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    Thursdays humour fix.
    The definition of stupid has got to be the belief that more guns will negate the bloodshed done with guns.

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    Page 5.
    New format is not good for the forum discussions I think.

    Anybody else notice the extended visit and China's buttering up of Aus. whilst the Americans are in such disarray? But our foreign minister was in the US I think. Aus is in the process of being thoroughly wedged and RW ideology re the us may do us a disservice. but Trump, if he retains office as I think he will make the US possibly the most unreliable ally we have had, especially as regards commercial arrangements.

    BTW, China's average income has gone from under A$5000 to round A$8000 in round 5 years.
    Economic growth brings education and eventually dissent, but Most in China remember where they have come from.

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    The Party is safe as long as the good times roll.
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    Annabel Crabb nails it yet again:

    Qantas chief Alan Joyce recently pioneered the "Pride Cookie", a calorific morsel designed by famed chef Christine Manfield and scattered with rainbow chocolate drops to evoke the full spectrum of human love when served on domestic flights.

    One assumes this was part of Joyce's engrossing national campaign to get Peter Dutton's undies in a bunch. And indeed, the thought of the Immigration Minister copping a Pride Cookie in seat 1A en route from Brisbane to Canberra is sufficiently entertaining to excuse certain other significant structural flaws inherent to the plan (viz: Good luck finding a gay man who would eat a cookie).

    Dutton, whose regularly-ventilated commitment to free speech fully covers the right of everyday Australians to make racist remarks but stops somewhere short of airline executives supporting concepts to which Dutton is personally opposed, told Joyce last weekend to "stick to his knitting".
    (Reader alert: Terrible knitting puns ahead.)

    But on Wednesday, Fairfax Media's Matthew Knott broke the yarn:Dutton has himself cast on with a purler of a plan to resolve the gay marriage issue for this Fair Isle. (End terrible knitting puns. Proceed with confidence.)

    It emerged that Dutton is proposing a voluntary postal ballot on the matter of same-sex marriage, which would simultaneously fulfil the Coalition's election promise to put the matter to the people, obviate the need for parliamentary approval for the poll, and give Australia Post some much-needed additional letter business, a valuable fillip given that agency's champagne taste in CEOs.

    What? Peter Dutton working to smooth the way for gay marriage?

    To the untrained eye, this "Dutton Dressed As Glam" development is the most aberrant yet in a storyline already beset by a bamboozling series of multipartisan plot twists, including but not limited to:

    1) Tony Abbott signing up to a plebiscite proposal as PM, even though he hated the idea.
    2) Malcolm Turnbull maintaining it even though he hated it even more than Abbott did.
    3) Bill Shorten first endorsing a plebiscite, then voting to kill it.
    4) The Parliament, the elected decision-making body of this nation, collectively refusing to make a decision on a matter which seems rather firmly to be within its professional purview, and
    5) Pro-marriage equality activists, having complained for years that Australia was ignoring the issue, suddenly getting all shirty about the idea of the entire country clearing a Saturday to deal with it.

    But there is method to Dutton's madness.

    First, a postal plebiscite has a better chance of failing. Second, even if it didn't, there is a conservative view that if marriage equality is to become a thing, it would better suit the Coalition if it happened on their watch, thus allowing them to set some conditions.
    Like ensuring churches have the right to refuse to marry Adam and Steve.
    Or legislating to indemnify businesses and service providers who refuse to cater to same-sex weddings.
    (Such protections, it is expected, will be warmly welcomed by the stubborn core of homophobes to be found in the floristry, sugarwork, hairdressing, hospitality, flight attendant and male haberdashery sectors.)

    Really, nothing about this debate should surprise anyone any more.

    Not the bizarre contortions to which the Parliament will go to avoid expressing an opinion on the matter, nor the elaborate individual reversals performed by its elected members.

    And certainly not the increasingly weird stuff that heterosexuals are happy to do to the institution of marriage at the exact same time as telling the queers that it's too special a tradition for them to have a go.

    I mean: What is the most-watched programme on Australian television at the moment?
    Married At First Sight.

    Which tells you that while Australia as a federation is at this stage not yet ready to allow two women or two men who love each other deeply to get married, we are absolutely relaxed about a man and a woman who have never even met getting hitched for the purposes of KFC brand placement.

    And while the argument is periodically raised that once you extend marriage to human beings of the same sex you're cheapening the institution, or paving the way to polygamy, or embarking on a slippery slope that ends in humans marrying dogs or stoats or buckets of cheese, it's worth quietly recalling that The Bachelor already performs several of those functions in primetime.

    Farmer Wants A Wife is mainstream. Lesbian Wants A Wife? Not so much, though its premise is oddly far less offensive to the traditional institution we're officially so keen to protect.

    Marriage is like a luxury car. If you're straight, you're welcome to jump in half-cut, pull a few doughnuts, fill it with improperly restrained minors and wrap it round a tree. If you're gay, it's too precious for you to drive.
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