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    Why Scott Morrison was sacked from Tourism Oz. Jon Faine interviews retired MP Fran Bailey who has up until now not divulged any info. With what has transpired with Morrison’s multi ministry fiasco she has decided to spill the beans saying the same behaviour patterns were responsible for his sacking. She is adamant he should resign. Might be the proverbial nail in his political coffin.

    Edit: Forgot to put the link to the article in!

    Fran Bailey: Scott Morrison as PM left me ‘gobsmacked’
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    I want the bastard to stay so he's a constant reminder to those who knew what he was like yet made him pm, and then supported him by not tossing him out or crossing the floor. An albatross around the neck of the remnant collection of unprincipled LibNats for the rest of the term. They are complicit accomplices to his malfeasance and trashing of parliamentary conventions.
    Don't let him, or them off in any way.

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    Like an onion. Peel away the layers and you just get more onion.

    Sadly, it's all too common with Pentecostal types. Lying becomes the norm. Like the speaking in tongues, I heard God speak to me, I was healed BS. They all actually know it's BS but they believe the greater good is served by carrying on with the lie. Morrison probably actually believes that God placed him in the role he was in so easily justifies all the backstabbing, lying, bullying and other obnoxious behaviour that characterised his political life.

    I have no problem with religious people in politics as long as they're of a more honest persuasion. People who actually value humanity and our environment, all that God has provided, if you like, rather than idiots who believe it'll all be swept away next week when Jesus turns up again in a winged chariot, or nothing matters. Morrison was a shocking PM and remains a stain on our system. We've had worse - Howard should be jailed for war crimes - but I believe history will judge Morrison as the most inept PM we've ever had.

    Yesterday on Insiders, they ran some video quotes from some of the current Opposition front bench. A crew reminiscent of a cross between the Luna Park ghost train and those clowns we used to feed with ping pong balls.
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    I agree about Howard, it's been a long time since the LibNats have had a leader worth the title. Ever since we were shanghied into Vietnam on a lie that was known at the time, but buried by the largely RW press.
    Since then all US adventures have been based on lies, and any Aus politician involved was complicit.

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    I think VN was more complicated and Fraser's leadership on opening our borders to SE Asian refugees represents the most outstanding act of leadership by any PM in our history.

    But I also hope that Morrison stays in parliament. The Libs would be insane to keep him there but they probably genuinely lack the wherewithal to do anything about it. Let's face it, no one but a bunch of lunatics would elect Valdermort and The Rabbit to any leadership roles.
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    The Local State Libs are not on a good trajectory.

    ‘Turf war’ splits peninsula Liberals - MPNEWS

    ACCUSATIONS of a takeover by “the Mornington faction of the religious far right” have split sections of the Liberal Party on the Mornington Peninsula.
    The scheduled annual general meeting of the party’s Dunkley Federal Electoral Conference ended within 10 minutes of Its start on Wednesday 27 July, and was rescheduled and held last week by the party’s state secretariat.

    The former chair of the conference, Mornington Peninsula Shire councillor and Liberal Party member for 10 years, Steve Holland, refused to attend because “the behaviour was so poor the first time around that I didn’t want to witness that again…”
    Holland said he ended the first AGM because “a small group of unruly members began interjecting and heckling from their seats”.


    He has now warned that “good people will continue to be driven away from the Liberal Party”.
    “What is happening within the Liberal Party at the moment can be described as a turf war on a sinking continent,” Holland told The News.


    “Successive state and federal election results in Victoria have highlighted the dire situation the party is in when it comes to appealing to the electorate.”
    Stephen Batty, elected chair of the Dunkley conference at last week’s rescheduled AGM, has written to party members saying he has attempted to contact “a small number of disgruntled members” in a bid to discuss their concerns “and move forward as one entity”.


    A Liberal Party member who has asked not to be identified, said the election results at the second AGM “clearly show it has been taken over by the Mornington faction of the religious far right”.
    The Liberal insider believes the moves within the local party branches have been made “so the religious right could control the finances of the Dunkley FEC to bolster the Mornington finances to elect Chris Crewther at the coming state election”.
    The party member “understood” up to $50,000 remained “in the kitty” following the unsuccessful federal campaign of the Liberals’ Dunkley candidate, Sharn Coombes.

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    Curiouser and curiouser……………..

    scomoism/trumpism arising everywhere. Dan may well qualify for long service leave…………….


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    ..and….I am highly amused and not a little cynical re the 'surprise' over dodgy behaviour in the Queensland Casino 'industry'. The very word 'casino' is shorthand for money laundry no matter what State it is in. Governments furiously back peddle to create an excuse, any damn excuse to keep these inherently corrupt, corrupting and criminal organisations shuffled behind yet another cloak of respectability. The politicians and their 'advisors' who excuse or rationalise such activity are equally guilty.

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    BTW, 4 corners is VERY interesting tonight. Stuart Robert and the LNP, with Howard and Abbott on the side.
    But likely another dodgy Chinese front scam.

    As for Lancaster, a contract would be cheaper than legal means.

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    Breaking News: The SA Labour government has joined the electoral rorts caravan. Premier is defending it. Does not pass the pub test.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-...eats/101393346

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Breaking News: The SA Labour government has joined the electoral rorts caravan. Premier is defending it. Does not pass the pub test.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-09-...eats/101393346

    It's getting ridiculous and must have a divisive effect on the electorate
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    What if we elected more independent members than both major parties managed………………
    Would they form a coalition just to keep the power in the club?

    A&A.
    Is that Stuart Robert hanging about like a vulture? I thought the Libs had reclused themselves from the subject? Oh, he's just defending the last corrupt admin's supposed 'legacy'.
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    I like KK and wish she hadn't been treated so badly by Labor. Labor were very stupid to run KK there. The locally selected Labor candidate would have been a much better MP than Dai Le. KK's senate position should have been maintained.
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    Labor should have learned from the Cheryl Kernot debacle.

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    Oz Pol is still to be found!.............meanwhile back in Vicco Matthew Guy in his speech to Parliament on the Queen's passing, mentions King Arthur as one of her predecessors...
    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

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    Thanks Hallam
    Now, Crikey on AUKUS deal…..
    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...al/ar-AA11NoJO

    Another one of Morrisons fit-ups to load fed. agencies with his plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallam View Post
    Oz Pol is still to be found!.............meanwhile back in Vicco Matthew Guy in his speech to Parliament on the Queen's passing, mentions King Arthur as one of her predecessors...
    Total FWIT.

    Isn't it galling the way that these morons constantly crap on with inane commentary about history, tradition, respect etc., yet typically know SFA about any actual history, couldn't be bothered ever actually reading any real history and completely ignore the very real history of, and treat with contempt, the people who lived here continuously for at least 50,000 years?
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    Inconvenient truths Rick, someone might want their country back……….. Yeah yeah, I know what the HC said about extinguishment….. but……… the Crown still stole the place.

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    Another case of Ideology trumps common sense. It’s at plague proportions! It used to be more conspicuous in my uni days among the radical left, now the right seem to have it in the bag! I’m wary of a one who is of the militant type except environmentalists. However you could hardly call Mathew Guy a militant. He’s just plain stupid in the sense of ignorance it seems. Lives in a small and shrinking world….
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    Most of these people aren't idealogues. For crying out loud, they don't have the intellect to develop an ideology, and many barely have the literacy to even follow one! Consequently, we're left with an opposition completely devoid of vision and a government with very little. Happily, there's a backlash against myopia going on and we're seeing a bit of intelligence bubbling up in the form of the Greens and teals. Long may they reign!
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    GF weekend signals the end of mask rules. Some are not so happy. Including me so I'll still be wearing one. The cautionary principle applies.

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    …..and it seems that AWKWARDUS may result in us having no submarines………………… and when we do it'll be 40 years out of date……………. but never fear, the French may rescue us yet, if the feel like it, and of course at what cost.
    More LibNat bungling…………… But I reckon the US pulled rank with our PM as always and said no………...

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    I read or heard somewhere recently, probably ABC, from a person who was formerly a part of the Submarine procurement team that the subs we were looking to get before AUKUS that one of their features was being able to operate with advantage in the seas to our north, eg Torres Straight etc and the US Nuke subs won't be much chop in that area but have a different set of advantages, namely long operation periods without surfacing and deeper operation capability. I have also heard from the submariners themselves when a sub docked at Beauty Point in Tassy that the subs we have at the moment have a stealth advantage over the Nuke subs in shallower operation and the subs we were going to get also had this stealth advantage as a priority. She also said that more than once the Australian subs we have now gave the US navy a few nasty surprises during offshore exercises.
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    Further info coming to light on Morrison’s dictatorship: Apparently he established a committee on which he was the only member and met 739 times with the head of Australia’s Intelligence Setvices, Andrew Shearer who was a former Liberal staffer and is now refusing to answer questions. The minutes of 660 meetings are unaccounted for……..

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/poli...es-on-cabinet/
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    I would say some very abrupt sackings are in urgent order. We missed it by that much………….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallam View Post
    Further info coming to light on Morrison’s dictatorship: Apparently he established a committee on which he was the only member and met 739 times with the head of Australia’s Intelligence Setvices, Andrew Shearer who was a former Liberal staffer and is now refusing to answer questions. The minutes of 660 meetings are unaccounted for……..
    this is pretty brilliant actually

    lol
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    Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

    If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallam View Post
    I read or heard somewhere recently, probably ABC, from a person who was formerly a part of the Submarine procurement team that the subs we were looking to get before AUKUS that one of their features was being able to operate with advantage in the seas to our north, eg Torres Straight etc and the US Nuke subs won't be much chop in that area but have a different set of advantages, namely long operation periods without surfacing and deeper operation capability. I have also heard from the submariners themselves when a sub docked at Beauty Point in Tassy that the subs we have at the moment have a stealth advantage over the Nuke subs in shallower operation and the subs we were going to get also had this stealth advantage as a priority. She also said that more than once the Australian subs we have now gave the US navy a few nasty surprises during offshore exercises.
    I read somewhere that we even got in close to a few Chinese ports.
    Last edited by WX; 09-25-2022 at 11:13 PM.
    without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.

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    AWKARDUS was all about scummo and dutton expecting donald to win and making decisons that any future government could not undo, like welding our foreign policy and military options even more so the Americans, no matter how that weathervanes in the future.

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    I note from the morning press that the body to examine the sports, car park, regional and other LibNat rorts under Morrison is being set up.
    Excellent!

    BTW, anyone do business with OPTUS?
    Singapore company beyond Australian laws as far as this hack is concerned.
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    Started to watch 4 corners……Dutton…… but I didn't last long.

    Just an unreconstructed Terry Lewis copper.


    And it seems like the fix is in regarding casino executives crime. Way too many political and corporate skeletons over too many years. Nothing to see here…. move on……...
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    Australian Wars.

    Anyone watching?
    I am, in bits and pieces as I already knew about most of it. The evidence was always there but governments and the law were bought, or also regarded the original people as not human, as Banks hads stated. Terra Nullis.
    There is a whole slew of Australian history that is a total fiction, but I doubt there'll ever be a reckoning, or even a truth telling that is acceptable to power, or even the descendents of those murderous settlers.
    My convict ancestor had a girl either from Tasmania or Sth Gippsland that he named Millie, he eventually married her but she eventually died and he married a white woman. My fathers generation split irrevocably over what woman they descended from. As it happens it was Millie.

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    Mark Dreyfus, National Press Club Address at lunchtime today ABC TV or Sky for the live broadcast. He will outline some of the Albanese Government’s reform efforts to restore integrity and trust in public institutions.
    Might be worth a listen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    Australian Wars.

    Anyone watching?
    I am, in bits and pieces as I already knew about most of it. The evidence was always there but governments and the law were bought, or also regarded the original people as not human, as Banks hads stated. Terra Nullis.
    There is a whole slew of Australian history that is a total fiction, but I doubt there'll ever be a reckoning, or even a truth telling that is acceptable to power, or even the descendents of those murderous settlers.
    My convict ancestor had a girl either from Tasmania or Sth Gippsland that he named Millie, he eventually married her but she eventually died and he married a white woman. My fathers generation split irrevocably over what woman they descended from. As it happens it was Millie.

    Haven't watched yet but will on iView.
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    Re the Vic. election. I'd say that Guy is not a winner, but that Dan may have to contend with a few independents. If the Libs had gotten their act together they might have won under another leader. But John Pesuto, the best the libs have, lost his seat. Shame that.

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