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    What are they used for?
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    border surveillance, immigration
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    Let us know when you pass over one, wimp.

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    You must be in Texas.
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    The US was talking about putting one near the Sarnia-Port Huron boarder crossing, but there was a great deal of push back on both sides of the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    border surveillance, immigration
    wow, remarkably silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domesticated_Mr. Know It All View Post
    You must be in Texas.
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    wow, remarkably silly.
    I wonder if they're equipped with The Death Ray?
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    Aerostat. Flies on a 14,000’ cable. Had a look down radar system to detect low flying aircraft coming across the boarder. They are of course along our southern border, but also the gulf coast, key west and along the Atlantic coast as well.
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    maybe with Gorgon Stare!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Aerostat. Flies on a 14,000’ cable. Had a look down radar system to detect low flying aircraft coming across the boarder. They are of course along our southern border, but also the gulf coast, key west and along the Atlantic coast as well.
    ah, that makes a bit of sense. seems like they must be obsolete at this point, but maybe not.

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    If I wee you, Paul, I'd grab my ass to check both halves wre still there, then run like hell.

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    it may be a while till my next border check in. . .

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    They are retrofitting them to detect virus crossing the border

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    They are very popular overseas with our troops. They float above the FOB's 24hrs a day, rarely coming down, and while I have no idea what sort of equipment is in them, I'm sure there's a decent camera.

    One morning while on our usual route up the valley we noticed one had 'crashed' near the Kunar River.

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    ^ a little while after passing the last ballon i passed a white box truck parked on the side of the road with u.s. gov plates

    beside the truck where a bunch of poles and on each pole where two or three cameras and other sensors to capture your vehicle coming and going

    welcome to the red surveillance state
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    Drivin in Texas is like running on a treadmill.
    The scenery changes really slow.
    Watch out for the Armadillo's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    ^ a little while after passing the last ballon i passed a white box truck parked on the side of the road with u.s. gov plates

    beside the truck where a bunch of poles and on each pole where two or three cameras and other sensors to capture your vehicle coming and going

    welcome to the red surveillance state
    If they had US Government plates, and on an Interstate, they probably weren't working for Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    They are very popular overseas with our troops. They float above the FOB's 24hrs a day, rarely coming down, and while I have no idea what sort of equipment is in them, I'm sure there's a decent camera.

    One morning while on our usual route up the valley we noticed one had 'crashed' near the Kunar River.

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    Similar thing happened ten yrs ago outside of DC.

    No idea what they’re using, just guessing a more economical, or not, version of what was used in Afghanistan. It’s the super duper computer programs that make the difference with super duper cameras. There must be a youtube documentary of them somewhere.

    Hmm, radar it says. They must have added visual sensors.

    https://www.cbp.gov/frontline/frontl...mber-aerostats

    Each sweep of the radar in the belly of a TARS detects all flying aircraft within the balloon's 200-mile range. Wireless transmitters send TARS radar data from each balloon into the Internet cloud, where it is combined with other TARS radar data, according to Brown. Radar data is downloaded from the cloud at the Air and Marine Operations Center, AMOC, in Riverside, California. Using the Air and Marine Operations Surveillance System, the AMOC can integrate more than 700 sensor feeds to simultaneously track 50,000 aircraft in flight over the U.S., Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean and South America.

    The CBP aerostat program began over 30 years ago when the U.S. Customs Service started using tethered aerostats to counter the rising number of low-flying small aircraft operated by drug smugglers. For years, traffickers moved contraband into the U.S. by air because it was cheap and efficient. Customs authorities estimated that by the early 1980s, as many as 8,500 illegal flights per year were transporting narcotics directly from the Caribbean, Central or South America into the U.S. “The shortest route from the narcotics production areas to U.S. markets is by air,” said Booth.





    CBP is also testing the potential of a family of smaller, tactical aerostats for other roles in border security. Tactical aerostats have been transferred to CBP from the Department of Defense following use by U.S. forces in Afghanistan. The aerostats include three models: the Persistent Threat Detection System; the Persistent Ground Surveillance System, and the smallest, the Rapid Aerostat Initial Deployment system. The smaller aerostats operate at altitudes from 500 to 5,000 feet and monitor ground activity with radars, infrared and electro-optical cameras.
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    Paul, you must like driving

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Aerostat. Flies on a 14,000 cable. Had a look down radar system to detect low flying aircraft coming across the boarder. They are of course along our southern border, but also the gulf coast, key west and along the Atlantic coast as well.
    Made me think of Barrage Ballons
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    How did you spot them at 15,000 feet?

    There's been one since the 70's down south of Tombstone near Ft Huachuca (the Army Intelligence Center) and another near (God forsaken) Deming, NM. When flying, the cable is invisible unless you're looking for it.

    Remember that within 100 miles of the border, CPB has their own set of laws. Lots of checkpoints, lots of sniffers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John of Phoenix View Post
    How did you spot them at 15,000 feet?

    There's been one since the 70's down south of Tombstone near Ft Huachuca (the Army Intelligence Center) and another near (God forsaken) Deming, NM. When flying, the cable is invisible unless you're looking for it.
    I've never seen one that high. In fact the one you mention near Ft Huachuca flies higher than most I've seen. I'm guessing around 1000-1500ft.
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    Must be some reel for that cable

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    I seem to remember one breaking its tether and causing mayhem as it dragged its cable across the countryside.
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    Here's a video of us slingloading that aerostat from the river back to the FOB. It wasn't a scheduled mission, we were flying fuel blivets up the valley and refueling at this place (FOB Todd, Asadabad) and a Sergeant Major got onboard while we were hot refueling and said they couldn't get a truck close to it, and asked if we'd grab it for him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    Paul, you must like driving
    i would have normally preferred to fly
    but driving seemed prudent this go round
    i was scheduled to fly out tomorrow
    i called to cancel my flight today
    only to find out delta had already done so
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    i called to cancel my flight today
    only to find out delta had already done so
    It's a new feature... predictive scheduling.
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    It's all fun and games until Darth Vader comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Aerostat. Flies on a 14,000’ cable. Had a look down radar system to detect low flying aircraft coming across the boarder. They are of course along our southern border, but also the gulf coast, key west and along the Atlantic coast as well.
    Uh, is the cable marked with lights like a radio tower? Or just noted on charts or NOTAMs? Seems kinda dangerous to aircraft. Even if the blimpmobile has marker lights, at that altitude and scope of the cable if any wind, thousands of feet below and you're not going to know where the cable is, it could be 3+ miles in any direction from the blimp.
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    last stop for gas and coffee

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