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  • skuthorp
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2002
    • 73700

    Re: Oz Politics.

    I think he's scraping the bottom of the propaganda barrel Gary. A sychophant for the LibNats as always.

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    • The Bigfella
      Banned
      • Oct 2006
      • 11600

      Re: Oz Politics.

      Originally posted by skuthorp
      I think he's scraping the bottom of the propaganda barrel Gary. A sychophant for the LibNats as always.
      How very grubby of you. Nay, cowardly. Fancy calling someone on the forum a "sychophant" (sic). Very grubby of you... but nothing unexpected from the left.

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      • The Bigfella
        Banned
        • Oct 2006
        • 11600

        Re: Oz Politics.

        With grubby comments like that, you really have to wonder how many times he gets slapped down out there in the real world?

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        • skuthorp
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2002
          • 73700

          Re: Oz Politics.

          You are a really funny man Ian, I gave up being 'correct' at about 30 If I remember rightly. But it aint what you say, it's the way that you say it. The ALP left always abused me for being to far right, and the communists in my family were mum's parents courtesy of WW1 and the depression, and mum courtesy of the depression and WW2. Turned them off god botherers too, and they were entitled.
          I don't know why I bother…………...

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          • Hallam
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 6886

            Re: Oz Politics.

            sycophant! sycophant!
            let there be no end to our boisterous chant
            In our world of online banter
            let us hop on our hobby horse and rise to a canter
            onward and upward with our derogate rant
            all to diss our resident sycophant!
            Last edited by Hallam; 09-15-2019, 02:00 AM.
            Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. Leonardo da Vinci.

            If war is the answer........... it must be a profoundly stupid question.

            "Freighters on the nod on the surface of the bay, One of these days we're going to sail away"
            Bruce Cockburn

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            • skuthorp
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2002
              • 73700

              Re: Oz Politics.

              If I wanted to insult someone I can think of worse, but Scot would not approve……...

              How about "Right wing ideolog"? Would that get me scoted?
              Not that it applies, Ian doesn't like the left but he's not that.

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              • WX
                Uki NSW Australia
                • Feb 2002
                • 35989

                Re: Oz Politics.

                Originally posted by The Bigfella
                With grubby comments like that, you really have to wonder how many times he gets slapped down out there in the real world?
                Knowing Jeff as I do, I'd say never.
                Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.

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                • The Bigfella
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 11600

                  Re: Oz Politics.

                  Originally posted by WX
                  Knowing Jeff as I do, I'd say never.
                  What? He's only a hero when there's no chance of him getting slapped down?

                  Jim Richard's words to the crowd when he was on the podium at Bathurst come to mind.

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                  • WX
                    Uki NSW Australia
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 35989

                    Re: Oz Politics.

                    Originally posted by The Bigfella
                    What? He's only a hero when there's no chance of him getting slapped down?

                    Jim Richard's words to the crowd when he was on the podium at Bathurst come to mind.
                    You seem to be living proof wisdom doesn't always come with age Ian.
                    Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.

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                    • WX
                      Uki NSW Australia
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 35989

                      Re: Oz Politics.

                      Here's a good story from the commie ABC.
                      An oil palm plantation once owned by the failed tycoon has been replanted by hand and transformed into a lush rainforest on the edge of the World Heritage-listed Daintree National Park.
                      Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.

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                      • skuthorp
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 73700

                        Re: Oz Politics.

                        Look

                        https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/a-crying-shame-humanity-sleepwalking-to-disaster-20190911-p52qay.html


                        All else is small change.

                        That's why I no longer have any patience.
                        Last edited by skuthorp; 09-15-2019, 06:53 AM.

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                        • The Bigfella
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 11600

                          Re: Oz Politics.

                          Originally posted by WX
                          You seem to be living proof wisdom doesn't always come with age Ian.
                          Thank you for recognising that. I gained it many decades ago. Don't give up hope... you may yet find it.

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                          • WX
                            Uki NSW Australia
                            • Feb 2002
                            • 35989

                            Re: Oz Politics.

                            She seemed a bit overwhelmed.
                            Without freedom of speech, we wouldn't know who the idiots are.

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                            • The Bigfella
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 11600

                              Re: Oz Politics.

                              Shameful treatment of activist Jacinta Price by the left
                              CHRIS KENNY




                              Jacinta Price’s rhetoric clashes ‘with the politically correct lines of the so-called progressive left’. Picture: ABC

                              • 12:00AM SEPTEMBER 16, 2019

                              An Aboriginal woman was shouted down at a public speaking event in Brisbane last week because she objects to the “modern construct” of a welcome to country. Just days earlier the same welcome to country “construct” was used to try to ban Jacinta Price’s speaking tour — Mind the Gap — from the NSW coastal town of Coffs Harbour.

                              The national broadcaster ignored the Brisbane protest and at Coffs Harbour ran vicious attacks on Price while ignoring her side of the debate and denying her a response.

                              If indigenous disadvantage is our greatest national shame, then the way media handles Aboriginal issues does little to help.

                              I cut my teeth in reporting indigenous affairs by revealing the fabrication of the Hindmarsh Island so-called secret women’s business in 1995, which is a bit like cutting your teeth as a firefighter on Ash Wednesday. Not to put too fine a point on it, this taught me much and changed my life while also imparting two important lessons about our media.

                              First, the most dangerous thing you can do in reporting indigenous affairs is shun political posturing and search for the verifiable truth.

                              Second, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation and myriad other institutions of the left have little interest in the truth when it comes to such matters but, rather,
                              place a great deal of store in their political posturing.

                              Consider the extraordinary treatment handed out to Price, a Warlpiri woman, Alice Springs councillor, Coalition federal candidate and political activist, in Coffs Harbour last week, at the hands of that city’s council, local indigenous groups and the regional ABC radio station. Price’s national speaking tour, subtitled Bridging the Indigenous Divide, had already toured South Australia and Victoria.

                              Having failed to win the Northern Territory seat of Lingiari for the Coalition at the federal election, Price continues to advocate a message of personal responsibility and practical solutions to indigenous disadvantage, criticising the contemporary focus on symbolic issues such as welcome to country ceremonies and shifting Australia Day.




                              Her mission is to empower indigenous people and improve their lives but her proposals and rhetoric clash with the politically correct lines of the so-called progressive left.

                              Incredibly, after booking the local theatre, Price’s tour operators received a letter from Coffs Harbour City Council suggesting she seek permission from local indigenous organisations to speak. Think of the blatant racism (and sexism) at play here. A theatre is booked by an Aboriginal woman to speak and the council says she should seek permission.

                              When asked to provide examples of any other booking being asked to seek permission, the council said it had “never requested anyone” seek permission to “speak at any public function”. This is dissembling — the council had suggested Price seek permission to “come onto country”.

                              As this kerfuffle developed, a group of nine local Aboriginal organisations put out a media release revealing they had met with the council to “request that the tour be cancelled at their (council) premises”. The release contained disgusting and highly defamatory descriptions of Price’s aims, advocacy and character.

                              There are a number of issues at play here. The council was behaving in an appalling manner by imposing hurdles on this particular Aboriginal speaker that, to our knowledge, had not been imposed on anyone else.

                              Price’s freedom of speech was being threatened. Also, the ugliness of indigenous politics was being played out with the usual nasty attacks coming from overwhelming leftist indigenous groups towards Price, as a right-of-centre indigenous activist.

                              Whatever was happening here, this was a story. On my television program, The Kenny Report, I interviewed Price and referred to the release from the indigenous groups. I also got comment from the council, which said it was not banning Price but reacting to concerns from local indigenous groups: “In keeping with council’s commitment to the traditional and customary protocols of our indigenous community members, council suggested to Ms Price’s representatives that she seek permission from the local Gumbaynggirr Aboriginal community to come onto country.”

                              As I said on air, this behaviour from the council is nothing short of racist, a view that was endorsed by others on air including Coalition senator Amanda Stoker and former ALP national president and current Liberal candidate Warren Mundine.

                              The Coffs Harbour ABC station talked about the issue on air the day after Price defiantly went ahead with her speech. Morning presenter Fiona Poole apparently had attended the function but didn’t speak with Price, interview her or seek her views on the controversy. Instead Poole described Price on air as someone who “has very much cosied up with the right side of politics”. Well, yes, Price was a Coalition candidate so there is no secret about her politics; but Poole, strangely, went on to link her to Andrew Bolt and Alan Jones rather than Scott Morrison and Ken Wyatt.

                              Poole said Price “is very divisive” in the indigenous community. Really? Then how divisive were those people defaming her and trying to stop her event?

                              The Coffs Harbour ABC sent a reporter, Claire Lindsay, to speak with some of the Gumbaynggirr community groups who had opposed Price’s visit.

                              Lindsay quoted, on air, some of the defamatory media release declaring that Price was “unwelcome” because she “spreads racist vitriol, vilifies and ridicules Aboriginal people and cultures”.

                              Incredibly, Lindsay did not interrogate or qualify these statements, seek examples that might support it, or contact Price for her point of view.

                              The indigenous leaders she interviewed went nowhere near that sort of language on air and failed to raise a single specific instance of anything Price had said that they disagreed with. Nor were they pressed to explain or justify their extraordinary efforts to silence an Aboriginal woman.

                              This episode is deeply worrying. It speaks to a silencing of dissent in a crucial area of public policy and to the malleability of a local government body in the face of illiberal and malicious political posturing in indigenous affairs. And where was the ABC? Was it seeking truth, defending free speech or supporting an Aboriginal woman whose reputation was being maligned and whose rights were under threat?

                              No, just like the Hindmarsh Island affair all those years ago, the ABC was lined up against the truth-tellers and dissenters.

                              It amplified the demonisation of Price, gave unquestioning coverage to the illiberal forces, left the council unchallenged and did not have the professional ethics or common human decency to give Jacinta Price so much as the right of reply. It is enough to make you despair. But Price is determined to soldier on.

                              Jacinta Price is expected to lodge a formal complaint. I will discuss this with her tonight on Kenny on Media.
                              Last edited by The Bigfella; 09-16-2019, 12:41 AM.

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                              • The Bigfella
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 11600

                                Re: Oz Politics.

                                I think the ABC is worse than just commie... they are subversive. Some skunk there deserves sacking over that Price issue.

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