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    I just finished o job I was given to do on some of the interior woodwork of a 1927 Caddie. 1st was the dash instrument panel that was missing most of it's walnut veneer and he couldn't find anyone to do it, so I got the challenge. the 1st pic is of the bare nickel plated insert and the next 2 completed
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    this next piece came in 3 pieces and was totally missing the burl veneer inside the stringing and missing a backing piece of 1/16" veneer. repaired it all , put in the burl veneer and applied all new stringing
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    next are the 4 pieces that go on the doors. the 2 on the frt doors had just been upholstered and he wanted them to look like the other 2 which were done in walnut also. only the 2 in the back were thrashed and the only thing that I could save was the figured walnut pieces inside of the stringing. the crossbanding veneer or base veneer for the top stuff was also shot so had to separate that from the top layer to. then started to put it all back together
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    it was a pretty good challenge to get it all put back together.
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    Impressive work. Do you have any pictures or description of how the work is done? Very curious about the nickel dash insert/ Do you cut the veneer to fit around all the scrollwork? what do you use to cut it?

    I do a bit of marquetry and veneer work but this is very impressive.
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    Nice! Any pictures of the vehicle itself would also be appreciated.
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    Beautiful work!

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    Incredible! Thanks for sharing.

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    Remarkable work... very impressive !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    Nice! Any pictures of the vehicle itself would also be appreciated.
    I think that it is in the upholstery shop now. I have never seen the vehicle, just the pieces were brought in. I would imagine though if you took a cruise up through the San Juans, the owner would more than likely pick you up and show it to you.
    to make it simpler,I will ask for some photos of the car and when I do, i will post
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    WOW!!! and WOW again!!!

    That really is quite incredible work Ron! Reiterating Tom's request, is there any chance that you could give us a bit of an idea how you went about it???
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    basically it was done with a 20 ton press. More than likely along the lines of how they did it back then; they may have been a little bit more automated. more versatile and a little more h/d. I will elaborate on it in the next couple of days when I have a few more minutes. I thank you for your comments.
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    [QUOTE=Larks;3980625]WOW!!! and WOW again!!!


    this job came in in Jan of this year . told customer that it could take a little time to solve the situation, but that it would be solved. guess at the start that it was a little like a bear cub playing around trying to figure which way that I would go. the material that was in there measured between .017-.019" so I went to the fellow that has been supplying me for over 30 something years,Andrew at A & M specialty Woods in Cambridge , Ont.; told him what I needed and they had in stock .019-.020" thickness veneer so that solved that problem. now how was I going to put it in there. I did think about vacuum, and you saw my earlier comment on that subject. I did have good intuition that it was going to have to be pressed in, so I bought a 20ton hyd. press, get some 1/2" thick steel plates to cover the size of the object. then I made a top and bottom platen from 3/4" baltic birch ply(then thought that the tp may have been to hard so also made one from pine-softer- indent easier,not so, so used the BB after trying it out several times it did get a good indentation to it



    now what to use for an adhesive.tried a few but had the feeling that they were not going to adhere.this was a failure part with a lot of these things. you are bonding wood to metal(smooth) and that cars can get quite hot on the inside(the sun can cause this reaction) and it lets go. epoxies are my last place to and ended up using a product called G/flex-west systems known as plastic boat repair kit.
    now softening the material to make it more malleable. tried using downey fabric softner with the water. soak for a day. made a few trial runs and wasn't impressed; look for the next step. read that I couldn't use the downey as it was not compatible with the g/flex. you can even wipe the subjects down with a cloth that had been in the wash with that stuff in it. the process was soak in water then it was flexable so that I could sort of bend it over(so it didn't break) wrapped in a wet towel and microwave for about 5 min on high just before your going to do it. now for the platen, they were waxed and then put in another microwave. wanted a good wax imbedded surface so that it could pull away from any glue slippage any where. also for a good 5 minutes in the microwave for the platen to get it good and hot. 2 microwaves working at the same time. the glue has been applied to the nickel plating- the press is set up and when both microwaves go ding, it is a go. get the press all done the put my helper bar on the pump bar and give it some more umph and wait for the next day to what has happened.
    My first thought at removing the excess was to pare it all off with a nice sharp chisel which I had tried on the second from last attempt. I found that even that thin of veneer has grain direction and found if going against the grain it would pick up the grain. cleaned all of the excess off with a cabinet scraper- flat and of the curved variety. sanded lightly with 220 paper to remove scratches from the nickel, then 400 and then 15 micron paper.
    about 125 hours for the 5 pieces
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    Fascinating. Thanks for the explanation. Makes me want to find some parts to try it on.
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    Va-va-va-VOOM!
    Very nice work.

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    Va-va-va-VOOM!
    Very nice work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrleft8 View Post
    Va-va-va-VOOM!
    Very nice work.
    just for clarification the green and yellow car was not the one that I worked on.
    thanks
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    Very impressive Ron. Thanks for sharing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccmanuals View Post
    Very impressive Ron. Thanks for sharing!
    thanks and this reminds me of your signature,
    "Life just gets better as you get older doesn't it. I was in a Starbucks Coffee shop recently when my stomach started rumbling and I realized that I desperately needed to fart. The place was packed but the music was really loud so to get relief and reduce embarrassment I timed my farts to the beat of the music. After a couple of songs I started to feel much better. I finished my coffee and noticed that everyone was staring at me.. I suddenly remembered that I was listening to my Ipod.... and how was your day ?

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    Nice job! I like the days when you get to be inventor and craftsman both. I'm in the middle of a project right now where I'm, at the customer's request, using wood and stone to create a compass rose for his boat's chart locker top. Luckily I like problem solving.... I like your use of the press, great results.

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    Wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron david View Post
    thanks and this reminds me of your signature,
    "Life just gets better as you get older doesn't it. I was in a Starbucks Coffee shop recently when my stomach started rumbling and I realized that I desperately needed to fart. The place was packed but the music was really loud so to get relief and reduce embarrassment I timed my farts to the beat of the music. After a couple of songs I started to feel much better. I finished my coffee and noticed that everyone was staring at me.. I suddenly remembered that I was listening to my Ipod.... and how was your day ?

    This is what happens when old people start using technology !"


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    Quote Originally Posted by ron david View Post
    just for clarification the green and yellow car was not the one that I worked on.
    thanks
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    I understand, and still...... Va-va-va-VOOM!
    I know a little bit about veneer work, and impressed wood pattern work, and still......... I'm quite.....
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    Thanks for the explanation. Very nice work indeed.
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    Impressive doesn't go far enough so I'm at a loss for words.

    BTW--thanks for the Starbucks story.
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    finally have some pictures of the completed job. the customer did the finishing himself on the woodworking that I did
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    Thanks, Ron.

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    Terrific work, and for the record, your customer's color choice is more to my taste than the previous example!
    Congratulations on your contribution! Stunning is not misapplied here.
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    Outstanding!

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    I would be interested to know if any "original" photos exist.....
    either way............Priceless............
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    I would be interested to know if any "original" photos exist.....
    either way............Priceless............
    there must be some with the history that it has. I will see what I can find
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack grebe View Post
    I would be interested to know if any "original" photos exist.....
    either way............Priceless............
    I did just run across this article which does show an early picture
    http://driving.ca/chevrolet/auto-new...-to-modern-day
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    Incredible work, Ron. Stunningly beautiful in fact.

    Still laughing at Starbucks story...

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