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    Hi guys,

    looking through the summer videos I thought I could extract some "neutral" content of our sailing adventure and share it with you.



    We were sailing around the Northern Sporades in Greece and had a wonderful time: 10 days of sailing from beach to beach, friendly winds, sun and cristal clear water. The boat is our 22ft wooden Romilly. She performed beautifully, a true joy to sail.

    Now I have just have to wait until next year ...
    Thomas
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    Default Re: Sailing around the Northern Sporades on our Romilly

    Not sure how I'm the first person to reply here, because that's a great video! Just the thing for this wet wintry day over here (60kt storm warning yesterday, been pouring since Friday).

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    I need some of that!!! Beautiful, thanks for sharing!
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    Love it.

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    Superb! Thank you!
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    Splendid! We sailed around those Island a few yours ago. 'The Gates of The Wind'. Magic.
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    Very nice. Perfect choice of music, too.
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    Nice. Very nice.

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    Sweet. The Admiral would love to sail those waters again (40 years later), but I doubt she'd accept such a small boat. I wouldn't mind at all.

    Music by Django?

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    Yes, the music is Django Reinhardt's Djanology, a wonderful piece of music.
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    like

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    Wow!
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    Thomas
    Could you tell us more about sailing in Greek waters? And more about your most beautyfull boat and your sailing experiences with Anna Sophia?
    I´m considering to trailer my boat down to Hellas one day. What scares me, is the long long way
    Max

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    Default Re: Sailing around the Northern Sporades on our Romilly

    Great vid'!! Got any more?
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    Nice boat, Nice area , nice music, and nice people living there.
    hard to beat!
    thanks for sharing.
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    Default Re: Sailing around the Northern Sporades on our Romilly

    Hi all

    and thank you kind interest. Yes, there is indeed a much longer video, but not something I really could share over the internet, I'm sorry. What I can do is to add some photos to the thread and give some comments about the boat and the sailing area - for those of you not being afraid of holiday photos!


    This is the boat, our wooden Romilly, 22ft, build in Greece a couple of years ago. Some of you may remember the building thread I had on our forum.





    She features a cold molded mahogany hull, a teak deck and carbon spars. She's got a small internal 2 cyl diesel engine together with a feathering prop. Her biggest luxury is a pressurized water system for having a shower in the evenings, but nothing more. There is no mini galley in the slightly elongated cuddy, cooking is done on an old pressurized optimus stove type hiker 110 in the cockpit on a mobile cockpit table - plenty of room there!

    The boat was selected as a boat for the warm summers in Greece, with only a small cuddy for stowing things and sleeping 2 at night, but with a big, open cockpit, big enough for a party of four. She has fulfilled and over fulfilled my expectations: She is beautiful (IMHO), fast, big enough, has a very pleasant motion at sea, and - my biggest initial concern - turned out to be a very stable boat: She stiffens up nicely when heeling and is a very sure footed boat.

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    My sailing area are the Northern Sporades. The boat lives there on a trailer directly at the Pagasitic Gulf, and so my usual sailing route is from the Gulf outwards somehow towards the islands of Skiathos, Skopleos and Alonissos and back. Wind in summer usually is a North-Eastern, normally around 3-4 Bft, but sometimes piping up to 5 or even 6 Bft. when the Meltemi is blowing. With my wife aboard I have to avoid going out at such conditions, but nevertheless tried it once. Leaving the harbor under bare poles alone with 5 knots was quite an experience, but with deep reef in the main the boat behaved beautifully - albeit the crew suffered from substantial spray.

    Here are a couple of photos to give you an impression of those beautiful islands:











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    There are still some boatyards left in the region dealing with wooden boats. Have a look at those pictures: Not too much changed in the last 50 (or 100) years:







    And a last picture of our boat at Skopelos, but with a nice greek fishing kaiki in the foreground:



    Thanks for watching!
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    Thanks for showing!

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    Nice boat, nice video, nice cruising grounds. Thanks very much.

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    Thomas,
    How far aft did you move the cabin? to next station? Any interior shots? Are spars carbon or wood?
    Simply gorgeous.
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    Very nice ....thanks
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    Beautiful boat and I agree about fast, judging by the video. Magnificent sailing grounds.
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    Nice cruising ground for a small craft, the Meltemi is much weaker up there.

    In 2009 I was approaoching Limenas Planitis to anchor for the night. A fishingboat was standing in the narrow approach to the habour , cleaning its nets of bycatch and throwing it overboard.

    As I waited for the fisherman to finish his task and make the channel clear , I noticed what looked like a dog swimming in the water behind the fishing boat ?

    I looked more carefully and it was a Mediterranean Monk seal feeding on the fishermans bycatch.

    http://www.monachus-guardian.org/factfiles/medit01.htm

    For those who dont know the Monk seal, they are one of the world rarest creatures. It was the first time Id seen one .


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    @ EeBe4
    I don't remember exactly right now - if I remember correctly the cabin was elongated about 35 cm, long enough to add two small cabinets for additional closed space. I can find out the precise value if this is of special interest to you.

    @slug and others:
    If you have been there (as I was) I would like to recommend the book "The Lugworm Chronicles" by Ken Duxbury": A sommerlong journey of two in an open drascombe lugger, visiting all the places you may know, but during a time (early seventies) long gone now. Splendid reading for the dark winter time.

    I have only once seen a Monk Seal, but not out in the sea close to Alonissos where you might expect them, but inside the Pagasitic Gulf. Looked like a football on the water, and only when approaching more closely I was able to identify the animal before it dived down, resurfacing again far behind me in my wake. Impressive.
    Thomas
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    Thomas,
    At 35cm that would be 1/2 way to station spacing at 70cm. Are the spars wood? Any details you'd share is appreciated. I', leaning toward Romilly as a next build. Thank you-
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    EeBe4,

    the spars are carbon spars, yes. My fear during the build was the boat getting too tippy with her narrow waterline by choosing the relatively heavier wooden spars. Now with some experence on the subject I think you may live well also with some lightly build wooden spars. Romilly is a tippy boat when not heeled, with out without wooden spars, but she stiffs up very nicely when heeled. According to Ed Burnett, with carbon spars you will be able to stand 1/2 Beaufort more of wind until you have to reef compared to wooden spars: Is this worth the effort?

    With regard to interieur photos: Have a look at

    http://www.roxane-romilly.co.uk/Romi...ing-completion
    http://www.roxane-romilly.co.uk/Romi...milly-launched
    http://www.roxane-romilly.co.uk/Romi...ore-anna-sofia

    for some photos of my boat. You will find photos of other Romillies also.

    Thomas
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    Very good. Forgot I had seen those. Burnett apparently has calcs on the drawings re: carbon vs wood. In reading a few posts on laying up carbon spars, I'm not convinced self performed versions really outperform wood. (that might stir up a wasp's nest). The precision of getting the fibers oriented correctly seems crucial and without vacuum bagging the spar, weight savings may negligible.
    After sailing her now, would you suggest any mods?
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    Mods for the boat? I honestly can say that I am very satisfied with all major aspects of the boat, as e.g. her performance, her sailing characteristics, the cabin and the cockpit layout. Only very few details come into my mind if I think of possible modifications:

    1. I developed my own mechanism to pull up the centerboard as I didn't like the proposal on the plans. Definitly works, but is slow and certainly could be improved

    2. Not directly the boat but close: I tend to believe now that the cut of my main sail could/should be flatter that it is today. Probably too baggy for sailing well into the wind in a breeze.

    3. Despite our efforts in accoustic insulation the small 2 cyl diesel engine is still relatively loud. We need another try on this.

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    Yah..really hard to live with an inboard engine on a small boat.

    Perhaps someday electric power will be viable.

    Id go with an outboard motor on a small boat. Looks ugly , but it doesnt heat up the boat and you dont have to sleep with it

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    Here is a new video for all lovers of wooden Romillies. Sailing grounds are again the Northern Sporades, May this year. Hope you like it, be sure to switch to HD!

    Thomas
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    Beautiful!

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    Wonderful
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    Thanks a lot Thomas
    That was a lovely video.
    Makes me thinking that I should take that long ride to Greece with Long John Silver one day.
    Regards Max

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