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    Same process for the underside. I cut two steps either side to lock into the capping rail.


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    Filled the railway holes and painted them black.


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    I took it into the shed to linseed it. Came up lovely.

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    Also been mucking about with portholes recently.

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    Default Re: Kate LK 126. A Zulu Herring Drifter...

    Thanks Jim!

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    Default Re: Kate LK 126. A Zulu Herring Drifter...

    beautiful!

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    I started to lay out the sub-frame for the port water tank. There are two tanks, 200 litres each. That's a lot of weight to keep in one place...

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    I then started to lay out a double berth over it.

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    Default Re: Kate LK 126. A Zulu Herring Drifter...

    Someone gave me an old wooden ladder which I cleaned up and used for the fore-hatch.

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    Before the weather turned, I did some final painting outside, including her name.

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    Picture of Dick Murphy (forw'd) and Graham (aft) perusing Dick's handywork. Dick is a carpenter and sawyer, and has a workshop with a whacking great band-saw in it.

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    This is Dick's boat, nice eh? It's a motor launch, and has only taken him 30 years to get this far. There is one large laminated frame amidships, negating the need for any transverse beams.


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    30 years! No rush in Suffolk...


    Picture of Dick planking some elm for my blocks (more on that later). You don't see many saws like that these days....

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    With the onset of winter, I stocked up on firewood.....

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    .....and turned my attention to interior work, namely some lockers....

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    Made them out of 1/2" larch. This was the first one I made. I had several planks that were 12" wide, and thought I was being clever with the uprights and shelves by cutting slots half way across each one, and letting each half cut make up the full width i.e. not sawing them down to 6" planks and thereby saving myself work. Although very seasoned they still held ambient winter season moisture...this one woke me up with a gunshot boom that reverberated around the whole boat at 4 in the morning, as it cracked the plank in the warm air inside. I sawed the rest down to 6" and avoided any further artillery...

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    The diamond motif is for ventilation and for fingers to open the doors. A few rounded copper corners complete the edges.

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    This was the second one I made. There is just shy of 60' of 6" plank in it!

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    Put in some small LED strip lights behind the beam...The snow kept falling but it was cosy inside, hot brews, larchy smells all winter!

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    Third one, also a shocking amount of wood. They all have oak quadrant at the crossing places, screwed and glued, and small oak tabs to keep the doors closed.

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    Rot proofed, and once that was dry, two coats of varnish.


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    Default Re: Kate LK 126. A Zulu Herring Drifter...

    Fourth and last one, the copper corners seemed an easy way to provide a rounded edge where there is a through-fare; I didn't want any sharp corners.

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    Door fastening tabs...

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    My water barrels were solid ice.....snow stew anyone?


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    Around Christmas...


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    Dicks saw is a beast, I've watched in awe as Dick has put a 3 foot diameter cedar log through it without a grumble...it's run by a Perkins 6354 in a tractor with 30 feet of drive shaft going round 3 corners! The bands are 6 inches wide.

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    Staggering.

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    Spring was a slow time for progress, I had a lot of work commitments and had to be away for several months, but got back on it after the thaw.

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    Decided to tackle the for'mast hatch. I started by putting in a couple of transverse beams, made of holm oak.

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    The hatch frame is iroko, reclaimed from an old chemistry bench. I made it in two parts, lower and upper, with an overlapping step.


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    You know those wooden puzzles you get in Christmas crackers that take three days to put back together?


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    I worked with an 80 year old carpenter long ago, who told me that the most important tool in the box was a tea-spoon! Not because of laziness, but if you're drinking tea, you're thinking and sizing up the job; more thinking saves time and mistakes. These took me about a day of thinking, and a couple hours to cut; never done a dovetail with a step beneath it.

    I put the lower part of the hatch on to the partners and surrounded it with oak quadrant.

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    The planks are 2" larch....


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    I used 6mm screws with plenty of expanding glue in between the planks, then dowelled the screw holes.


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    I gouged out the seam glue a little way, and filled them with black sh*t.

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    Love the first coat of varnish! ....actually I hate varnish, but I varnished it anyway. I'll epoxy the top in due course.

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    Did the same with the underside, and put a drip groove around it.

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    Cleaned up and painted the partners, and found a bronze handle for the hatch, guaranteed to tangle halyards and sheets nicely...


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    Put a slice of 20mm lexan in front of it for some light, squidged in with some white sh*t.

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    Tacked some hatch seal round it, and put a couple of latches at the aft end. I'll figure out some way to shut it securely from the outside, springy latch with a rope..? Any one know a way to do that?


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    The hatch is heavy, and I want to put a damper/gas strut or two on it. One smashed hand can really ruin your day... Alrose Gas Struts (UK) may well get a phone call soon, they look good.

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    Terrific! Stout and charming in one package.
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    Thanks!

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    This looks like a retrospective photo diary, all excellent work.
    Are you still able to follow Peter Radclyffe's advice and put doublers on those short scarfs in the top timbers? They really are a weakness as they are.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Default Re: Kate LK 126. A Zulu Herring Drifter...

    The thread is almost up to date, just a couple more posts...

    Yes I have been giving it quite a bit of thought. I'm going to get a survey done soon so I know where I am, and go from there. There are a number of entirely new frames, and a lot of new ones that go down to below the water line. The scarfs are not all as pictured previously in the bow high up.

    What material would you use Nick? Standard oak? Ply? Steel? If there are two doublers per scarf, one either side of each frame, that's a shed load of shaping....maybe do areas under rigging points? Say from the masts back ten feet or so, and each end? Or the entire boat?

    I'd appreciate your input....thanks.

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    Wow!

    Fantastic work!!

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    Thanks, Svaap! That means a lot coming from the re-builder of Minde! I have really enjoyed reading about her. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lupussonic View Post
    The thread is almost up to date, just a couple more posts...

    Yes I have been giving it quite a bit of thought. I'm going to get a survey done soon so I know where I am, and go from there. There are a number of entirely new frames, and a lot of new ones that go down to below the water line. The scarfs are not all as pictured previously in the bow high up.

    What material would you use Nick? Standard oak? Ply? Steel? If there are two doublers per scarf, one either side of each frame, that's a shed load of shaping....maybe do areas under rigging points? Say from the masts back ten feet or so, and each end? Or the entire boat?

    I'd appreciate your input....thanks.
    You only need one per scarf. They should be oak, or the same wood as the frame futtock, and of the same scantling. They need to be long enough to take at least three bolts either side of the short scarf. If the scarf itself is long enough to take three bolts it should be OK, if too short, then fit a doubler. Use the same size of bolt that fastens her futtocks to the arms of the floors. The rule of thumb for bolting boat components together is always use at least three bolts through each piece of wood.
    You should make sure that at least three frames either side of vertical or wracking loads are strong, so that is mast beams, halyard and burton eye bolts, beaching legs etc., on the other hand you have done such good work so far, don't skimp by missing out any that are too short.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Default Re: Kate LK 126. A Zulu Herring Drifter...

    Thanks a lot for your advice, which I will follow Nick, I really appreciate it. I will set to work on that in due course...not sure when but I have already been pricing up the wood and thinking about the time involved to do it. It's an absolute necessity and will get done. Thanks again, and to you Peter!

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    I remember seeing this boat available a few years back. I was half tempted then, but looked at my bank and thought otherwise. I'm so glad to see her getting re-built so well. Keep it up!
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    The mizzen mast-box made provision for a 7" stick, which I thought was a little on the small side. The mizzen sail is 3/4 of the size of the mainsail, and is the most vulnerable mast especially when running. The main mast is 12" thick at the base...3/4 of 12" is 9", so I decided to widen it to 9". I'm not entirely sure if this simple sum works out in reality, but 7" seemed a bit small, especially given that it's the mast most at risk of breaking... and the ratio of 12" to 7" is a little over half....



    I removed the bulkhead, and unbolted the sides, then unbolted the back board from the beams.


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    I let in a 2" strip into the centre of the backboard and put ten pieces of studding through it to hold it together.


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    View of widened back board back in the boat. I had to re-jig the beams at the top and add a block at the foot. It's all bolted with 12mm stud, and glued.

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    All back together again....I didn't make the side boards any bigger; I will make heavy steel brackets with corners in them to clamp around the mast that will accommodate the extra fore and aft thickness, thereby saving the side boards, and a lot more work.

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    Of course, I had to re-jig the beams and supporting struts at the top as well, but in the name of stronger masts, I'm pleased with the way it came out.

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    Having done that, I could start to put down the ply top on the coach house.

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    The top is 4 sheets of 12mm ply, with another smaller one beneath around the mizzen.



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    All the ply was rot treated prior to being fitted. I'm thinking of taking shares out in the company that makes it....

    Just the sliding hatch to go, and it'll be air tight for this coming winter.

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    Made a box for the mizzen mast boot to attach to...

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    I found some lovely American white oak going for a song at a local timer yard for the trim. Not a single knot in it.

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    So that went on..
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    Your mast box is exactly what i had in mind for Mariette. Im still considering it over a deck stepped tabernacle, but i need to build the mast first just to see if i can man handle it once its upright.....fortunately not as big a stick as yours!

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    Found this fine chap on the wood pile... a while later a female flew into the shed, impressive, I've never seen one on the wing before. Scared the pants off me.

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    Also, what appears to be an albino lady bug.

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    Bit of nonsense really, but I was in between jobs and thinking about someone grabbing a hot stove flue whilst underway...thought I'd knock out a post for them to grab instead...


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    I'm generally staying away from over decorative work, as it detracts from the natural curves etc of the boat, but this was a small indulgence...

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    Brancusi would be so proud...
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    Made the legs out of two pitch pine railway sleepers. Shaping anything to fit against a clinker hull is a massive ache in the plums. It took ages, and they're not exactly light.

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    I decided to put a bolt through where the heels are for strength.

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    I'll try to get a sliver of carpet between the boat and leg in due course..

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    First attempt at one of the internal blocks for the legs , oak. It must have traveled 30 miles in and out of the boat, as I didn't want the dust where I sleep. Million fit ups.

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    They will be bolted to the frame, and I might put a stringer or two across it and each adjacent frame too.

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    When I came to scoop out the inside it showed a streak of rot, so will have to be discarded. That's the way it goes! At least I have a template...
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    Beautiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    Are you still able to follow Peter Radclyffe's advice and put doublers on those short scarfs in the top timbers? They really are a weakness as they are.
    I wouldn't dream of contradicting either Nick or Peter on this point, but I have been studying Harold Underhill's very detailed plans for the Zulu "Muirneag" of Stornaway, and he states that the timberheads just have a simple scarfe joint to facilitate easy replacement in the event of damage. The scarfes would be staggered so adjacent joints fell on a different plank. But it certainly won't hurt to double them up. Looks like a great job you're doing there. Any chance you will bring her to the Portsoy festival when she's finished?
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    Quote Originally Posted by isla View Post
    I wouldn't dream of contradicting either Nick or Peter on this point, but I have been studying Harold Underhill's very detailed plans for the Zulu "Muirneag" of Stornaway, and he states that the timberheads just have a simple scarfe joint to facilitate easy replacement in the event of damage. The scarfes would be staggered so adjacent joints fell on a different plank. But it certainly won't hurt to double them up. Looks like a great job you're doing there. Any chance you will bring her to the Portsoy festival when she's finished?
    Did Underhill draw the scarfes in any detail, enough to determine the ratio? Kate's problem is that some of them are as short as 1:1. Underhills logic is odd, there is nothing easier than unbolting a doubled joint, the butt ends do not even have to be well fitted when there is a doubler.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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