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    10 frames, keel and stem patterns.

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    Cutting the notches for the chine logs today. Also installing all the gussets at the chine 1/2 lap.
    I may use the patterns to cut the keel and stem if the rain quits later. I want to do that in the driveway instead of trying to haul a 205# timber into the basement shop.
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    All the gussets are in, and chine log notches cut. Was gonna cut the keel and stem, but it was raining and the final AC race was on.
    The 1/2 laps at the chine joints look nice. Almost be a shame to paint them, but this boat will have a LOT less brightwork than the Coquina.
    I 'll have to remove the paint booth from my shop to have enough room to erect the strong back. I plan on clearing everything out to get as much room as possible. Also I will probably make a planking table for the spiling and scarfing to come.
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    My 2" thick timber was just wide enough for my stem and keel patterns.



    Rough cut the stem parts out. Those I can finish up on the bandsaw.



    Which left me with a somewhat lighter piece of white oak for the keel.

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    Spoke to the owner of the original "Betty" today. Harry Bryan was kind enough to call the owner, a former client of his and ask if I could see and photograph the boat.
    Ive got a long layover on Portland on the 27th of October. The Betty is just north of Freeport. Looking forward to good food, good beer and seeing the boat.
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    What are we planking with? Maybe you haven't decided.
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    Atlantic White Cedar.
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    I can smell that White Oak .Good stuff.

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    Even my wife commented how good the basement and garage smelled!
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    Did you get the awc in Georgia?
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    It's possible, but a better supply is in coastal NC. I found a mill that cuts it specifically for boat planking near Nags Head NC. 7-10 inch wide live edged, 16' long.
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    Installing the cross spalls and legs onto the frames for mounting on the strong back.
    I made a jig onto the lofting so they would be consistent.





    4 out of 9 done. Transom is mounted differently.

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    I'm using 1/4 20 bolts and wing nuts to mount the frames to the spalls and legs. I figured this would make it easier to remove them after its all planked up, and I can put bungs into the holes.
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    I'm wondering if the Long Lines : sheer and chine in plan and profile ; have ever been lofted? I remember reading the WB article on Handy Billy . The pro builders built the molds directly from the offsets but had to fair up the erected framework , if I recall correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Perkins View Post
    I'm wondering if the Long Lines : sheer and chine in plan and profile ; have ever been lofted? I remember reading the WB article on Handy Billy . The pro builders built the molds directly from the offsets but had to fair up the erected framework , if I recall correctly.
    I found 2 that were off, and not by a whole lot. One was a negative that should have been a +. The other needed a bit more curve to be fair.
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    If you still going to stop by, I'll have some lofting questions for ya. I'm planning on starting a Bateka dinghy build on those winter days when the boat shed will be too cold.
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    Chuck,

    Yes we are. Just working out which day. You going to be around Sunday?
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    This Sunday yes. Will be gone next weekend (10/19).
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    Been a little slow on progress. Took a trip down to Charleston to look at some property, and got to visit Chuck.
    Aside from sanding and riveting the frames are done.



    Also just about got the stem ready to assemble.

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    Since I have never taken a boatbuilding course, some obvious steps that the professionals know are left out of my process. It was informative for me to see how you used the lofting on the floor to get out molds and angled parts. I immediately started to use that in my present build, which is a Crab Skiff by rack of eye. Thanks for the pics.

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    Very much looking forward to seeing the frames set up.

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    Stem assembled. I've got to order the SB bolts.
    It was within 3/32 of the lofting after gluing it up. I'm happy.



    Happy with the joints too...

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    That looks like a fine spill-containing coffee table!
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    Did you get to Freeport to see the original? Beautiful country. Pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    That looks like a fine spill-containing coffee table!
    Its for my niece. She's moving into her first apartment soon. Used an old window. It'll have a sheet of 1/4" tempered glass over it and the window will be hinged to put decorations inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt View Post
    Did you get to Freeport to see the original? Beautiful country. Pics?
    Chuck it's this Sunday. Might just be warmer there than in Atlanta!
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    Made it to Portland today and the owner graciously picked me up at the layover hotel and took me to see the boat. It's very pretty.

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    Now that is beautiful!

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    I like it.

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    Yup--very nice indeed.
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    I can see taking her to Shem Creek for dinner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post


    Hey, I've got the same Park planer. Any chance you could photo your jury-rigged dust collector? I'd like to see what you rigged up. Mine throws shavings 8' or so across the basement. Makes a big mess!

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    I'll take a close up of it. Very simple though. It's a vacuum attachment for a 4" dust collector hose for cleaning floors. Got it from Rockler. Used some metallic furnace tape to attach it and a magnetic hose clamp to act as a strain relief for the hose. It works really well. Gets 99% of everything.
    The tape allows some movement so the lower edge of the attachment rides on whatever you are planing.
    The chips on the floor were before I added this. Now the shop stays clean even when planing 12" wide boards.
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    Not a lot to report lately. All the frames are riveted, and the stem is assembled and planed. Gotta install the SB bolts though the stem.
    Been cleaning up the shop and reorganizing. Had to remove 2 walls of my paint booth so I'd have enough room for a 23' boat.
    Took out a LOT of trash and gave my neighbor who has a cabin in the mountains with a wood stove a bunch of scrap wood. Just couldn't throw scrap wood into a landfill.
    The strongback is next. Also I'll build a planking table along one wall of the shop.
    In all the assembly room measures 32' by 16'
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    Well my eye saw your frames up above but my brain regsitered "mold stations." Now I see the frames. Cool. Time to set em up!
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    Got the strongback built today. My floor is about 3/4" out of level in 24'. A bit of shimming took care of that.
    Sat frame 5 on the strongback to get an idea of how much room I'll have.






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    Cutting the rabbet is a bit of work...

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    What are the specs on this boat? I see she is 22'. What's the beam and weight? What's in the cabin? Engine HP? What's the seating like? etc.
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    6' 6" beam. Cabin has 2 breaths and a head. 3 cylinder diesel, I'm planning on @ 30hp. Two seats up front, plus a bench seat across the aft end of the cockpit.

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    Very nice. Great size and layout.
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    Interesting that the boat has a batten at the end of the skeg to prevent the rudder from snagging pot warps, etc. I wonder if it would make sense to just bring the skeg all the way back to take a rudder shoe, or if that would just be an unnecessary complication.

    That's a nice cozy looking shop you have there. Is the boat going to be a squeak-fit through those doors or are they wider than they look?
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    The door frame needs replacing anyway so a wider door will be installed to get the boat out.
    Cleaned up the shop, built a planking table and got to work.
    Planed down the keel batten to 7/8...



    And started beveling.

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    I like this design. Good start.
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    You can only do so much stem rabbet cutting...
    Decided to take a break and make up the chine logs.

    Andy

    Still need to glue and rivet them.

    Now back to this...

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    Starting to take shape...

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    Rabbet looks good. I know that was a lot of work.
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    It was. Still got another 18" or so and need to smooth it up a bit.
    Had to take a break and work on the chine logs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynard38 View Post
    Thanks, it'll be kept in the water.
    White oak for the keel and frames isn't a problem. With all the storms we've had there is a lot of blow down. My sawyer harvested a tree rrecently that is over 5' in diameter and dead straight for 40'. He's cutting my keel this week. Got the inner keel last week, same tree.
    I am starting the search for the planking stock.
    Mark,
    This looks like a fun build; she'll dress up the Shem Creek Bar and Grill dock nicely. Any chance you'd be willing to share the contact info of your sawyer? I've got a Nakashima style table to build, and 'taint many folks around can slice a 40 incher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3sheets View Post
    Mark,
    This looks like a fun build; she'll dress up the Shem Creek Bar and Grill dock nicely. Any chance you'd be willing to share the contact info of your sawyer? I've got a Nakashima style table to build, and 'taint many folks around can slice a 40 incher.
    Call Stephen Brown at CAG lumber 770-869-3377.
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