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  1. #106
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    Default Re: Schooner Munteyn Top

    PS, She probably didn't have winches originally.
    Jay

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    Default Re: Schooner Munteyn Top

    she is a caricature of her former self rigged as a staysail schooner with castoff modern jibs

    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    she is a caricature of her former self rigged as a staysail schooner with castoff modern jibs
    And much improved .

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    Default Re: A celebration of small schooners

    Quote Originally Posted by Hwyl View Post


    Recently sold for a dollar, wish I'd known.
    Good looking rig to pay one dollar for - no wonder you wish you had known - do you know what design of schooner it is?
    It looks like a combination of designers LFH bow, Peterson sheer, Crocker cabin / pilot house, Alden stern etc

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    It was designed by the builder, frank Handlen. He would have been influenced by all those designers. He's an artist. He built it to spend winters in the Bahamas, but his wife did not enjoy their fist trip.

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    Default Re: A celebration of small schooners

    Re: Fame, Gareth, why do you say that?

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    Default Re: A celebration of small schooners

    I'm sure Fame sails much better now, particularly upwind, but I would think that even the most basic sloop rig would have achieved same without incurring such eyesore.
    A boatless inlander, searching for the meaning of life-aground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Figment View Post
    I'm sure Fame sails much better now, particularly upwind, but I would think that even the most basic sloop rig would have achieved same without incurring such eyesore.
    Is she easier to sail?

    Crowninshield designer her for himself as an easily single handed boat he could take out in the afternoons. . .
    Simpler is better, except when complicated looks really cool.

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    I wonder what they have done to the structure to compensate for the much higher rigging stresses....I have to say I prefer the original rig. The new rig just dose not fit the grace of the hull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thad View Post
    Re: Fame, Gareth, why do you say that?

    Partly, I am just being contrary. I do like the idea of a staysail schooner as a practical rig though.

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    Default Re: A celebration of small schooners

    Wanderlure II and Medley are two identical Alden schooners. Both designed with a traditional gaffed fore and jib headed main.
    The owner of Wanderlure II opted to change over to a staysl rig and the results were dramatic. Wanderwagon out sails Medley up wind with no sweat.
    Jay

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    Default Re: A celebration of small schooners

    Bombigher's boats are rather nice. I crewed on Rapelapente's 44 footer Anthea in 2013. Very pleasant.
    Xanthorrea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hwyl View Post
    Anyone know this boat, I met the owner in the Bahamas and later saw the boat in Man O War. Dinghied around it a couple of times, but got no response. He told me it was a Pete Culler design and he built her in NH.She's the only one of that design built.

    Photo stolen from the web

    Recently sunk, ostensibly on a trip in and out of Bahamian waters to renew cruising permit.

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    Default Re: A celebration of small schooners

    I shared a glorious day with Jamie Orr on his Florence Oakland.
    Obviously not a star to windward, we swapped first place until the final beat to windward in the annual Frank Fredette Memorial Gaffers Race.

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