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    Rick , I think the biggest plus for you with this vessel and quarantine will be that immaculate bilge , the general superb condition of the boat.
    It would make it a pleasure to inspect (assuming you don't mess it up on the way over).
    Regards Rob J.

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    The Barrotts kindly sent me some photos from Masina's history. Here they are leaving the Falklands en route to Uruguay, with a hitch hiker:



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    (assuming you don't mess it up on the way over).
    Oh, he'll mess it up. There'll be bits of tomato, lettuce all over the place, seeing as he's travelling without his built in seagull...

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    It'll be okay, he's got that bucket.....


    What a ripper photo though!!!!
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    She's already set up with a dodger coaming, and there looks like there might be one folded down tight in that pic.

    edit .. I see the dodger in the earlier shots too.
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    Looks like the hitch hiker is already feeding the seagulls.
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    No, the hitch hiker is perched on the dinghy.

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    Was there ever a Seaspray article on her build or adventures Rick?

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    I don't know John. I don't know Seaspray either. But I'm quite new to this cruising thing!

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    Seaspray is the most successful/ dominant NZ boating magazine from circa 1947 to say mid 1990's or so . Its still been alive in various forms since .
    Its market equivalent now is Boating NZ.
    The Brookes are very well known boating family so it wouldn't surprise me at all if a 'new boat' article existed and perhaps even some cruising articles on the boats adventures since. I have a set so I'll look if you can find out which month .

    This sort of thing...

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    If you can post a scan it would be very interesting John, especially a build article.
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    Hopefully I'll get a certificate from the builder soon, so that should give me the launch date.

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    Masina doesn't have a yankee although the set of sails is otherwise quite comprehensive, and all in very good condition. It's probably a bit premature to be ordering another sail before seeing how she really performs with what we already have, but I think the yankee is such a useful, practical sail, and the Tasman trip will be a fantastic opportunity to see how different combinations really work, so I've ordered one from a maker in NZ. Masina did have a yankee in her early days so I'm not sure why she no longer has one.

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    Bud?

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    Yep. Know him?

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    Surely . Bud has made a lot of sails for the classics. Tawera, Ngatira ,to name a couple that spring to mind.

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    That's good! He seems a good bloke and the price quoted also seemed good to me. He's a friend of the previous owner, who's a really good bloke, so I'm pretty happy about it!

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    That pic is a beauty-she sure has a pedigree to live up to.

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    Yes - I'll have to start compiling a compendium of excuses!

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    Here's another article about the Barrotts' history
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/marine/new...jectid=3251249

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    Successful in so many ways !
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    Noel Barrott is apparently fairly adamant about keeping boats as simple as possible. He doesn't even like self-steering, electronic or wind-driven. I think it's smart to keep it as simple as possible, although I'm glad to have the Aries system - it's a really nice bit of engineering. We'll see how we go on the Tasman trip, but, at this stage anyway, we're going to try to keep it simple.

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    I've been through 1973, '74 and '75 Seasprays but haven't come across any articles or comments. I've contacted Harold Kidd and Robin Elliot too but they aren't aware of any Seaspray references for her either unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    Noel Barrott is apparently fairly adamant about keeping boats as simple as possible. He doesn't even like self-steering, electronic or wind-driven. I think it's smart to keep it as simple as possible, although I'm glad to have the Aries system - it's a really nice bit of engineering. We'll see how we go on the Tasman trip, but, at this stage anyway, we're going to try to keep it simple.

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    I would have though having a simple strong windvane would be an essential for crew rest and therefore safety. I'm not much use when I'm really tired .
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    I thought it was interesting what he said in that article above, or was quoted as saying. That is, they don't like any of the steering aids, but instead they keep watches. I think both Rick and Peter are saying something slightly different from this, and they echo my thoughts as well. A steering aid gives the body a rest, whilst you are on watch. I would think that anyone (apart from solo sailors) who would use a steering aid, and go down below for a nap is asking for trouble. A reliable wind vane self-steering kit and keeping watches is the way to go I think.
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    I remember Daniel telling me of when he sailed down to the Antarctic he relied on radar and auto/self steering to give him a rest below.
    Until he came topside one morning to find he had just missed an iceberg , his radar didn't "see" it.
    He was much more careful after that.
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    Yes, I like the idea of keeping watch and using the vane. But Noel and Litara Barrott have just a little more experience than me so I take any comment they make rather seriously!

    Thanks for checking that magazine JB!

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    This is a little bio of John Brooke, Masina's designer, I just came across. He actually designed Masina as a 36' but Noel Barrott redrew her as a 38'.

    http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/biograph...e-john-balmain

    What a fantastic character he must have been! His designs included the very famous (in Australia, anyway) Sabot - the boat that launched about a million sailing careers!, and a really terrific looking thing called a Wakatere - a boat I'd love to get the plans for!

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    There's a chapter on Masina in Steve Dashew's The Circumnavigators' Handbook(1983). States launch date as October 1972. By 83' Dashew reports she had done 80,000 miles, with no engine or steering vane. Little or no electric equipment. Voyages included the Horn, North Pacific Japan to Vancouver, North Atlantic, and the Southern Ocean Cape town to New Zealand. Galapagos to the Marquesas (2800 miles) in 18.5 days, three of which were 210 to 212 miles per day.

    She is a very special boat.

    Classic Boat #40 contains an article on Masina, and #102 and #104 cover Sina, the Barrotts Colin Mudie designed 53' ketch. It's interesting that Masina has separate rudder and skeg while the next boat (Sina) has a longish keel with rudder attached?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    This is a little bio of John Brooke, Masina's designer, I just came across. He actually designed Masina as a 36' but Noel Barrott redrew her as a 38'.

    http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/biograph...e-john-balmain

    What a fantastic character he must have been! His designs included the very famous (in Australia, anyway) Sabot - the boat that launched about a million sailing careers!, and a really terrific looking thing called a Wakatere - a boat I'd love to get the plans for!

    Rick
    I was on voyage #13 as a 16 yr old on the Spirit of Adventure, his sail training design. Boarded and departed on friday 13th.

    They changed the voyage to 12 B after the oven fire.

    Gleam is a regular classic race boat here, owned by a WBF lurker.



    I'll have a look through 1972.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    There's a chapter on Masina in Steve Dashew's The Circumnavigators' Handbook(1983). States launch date as October 1972. By 83' Dashew reports she had done 80,000 miles, with no engine or steering vane. Little or no electric equipment. Voyages included the Horn, North Pacific Japan to Vancouver, North Atlantic, and the Southern Ocean Cape town to New Zealand. Galapagos to the Marquesas (2800 miles) in 18.5 days, three of which were 210 to 212 miles per day.

    She is a very special boat.

    Classic Boat #40 contains an article on Masina, and #102 and #104 cover Sina, the Barrotts Colin Mudie designed 53' ketch. It's interesting that Masina has separate rudder and skeg while the next boat (Sina) has a longish keel with rudder attached?
    Thanks Tad! I'll try and chase those articles up! The only one I knew of was the coverage of Sina!

    Rick

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    Gleam is beautiful!

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    Typical Brooke, all waterline and quick. She was influenced by an American type, forget the name of the design.



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    I was barely aware of this designer. from what I see here, I have a new favourite...show us more from the board of John Brooke.
    The Barrotts have a remarkable story indeed. Wow

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    We had a Kiwi turn up one winter about 30 yeas ago on a boat very possibly by this designer. She looked like a bigger version of Gleam.....Lovely

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