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    http://www.expatica.com/be/news/loca...pe_195344.html

    Mass shootings in Europe

    The shootings in the eastern Belgian city of Liege and Florence, Italy, on Tuesday have several precedents over the past 10 years in Europe:

    - September 27, 2001 - SWITZERLAND
    A man bursts into the local assembly in the central Swiss town of Zug and opens fire, killing 14 members of parliament and local government then turning the gun on himself.
    - March 27, 2002 - FRANCE
    Eight local councillors are killed and 19 injured when a man opens fire on members of the municipal council of Nanterre, outside Paris. He kills himself the next day while in police custody.
    - April 26, 2002 - GERMANY
    Sixteen people, including 12 teachers and two students, are gunned down at a school in Erfurt in eastern Germany by a 19-year-old former student, apparently in revenge for having been expelled, who then killed himself.
    - November 7, 2007 - FINLAND
    An 18-year-old goes on a shooting rampage in a school in the southern Finnish town of Tuusula, killing eight people before shooting himself.
    - September 23, 2008 - FINLAND
    Eleven people, including the 22-year-old gunman, die in a massacre at a training school at Kauhajoki, Finland.
    - March 11, 2009 - GERMANY
    Nine pupils, three teachers and three passers-by are killed in a school shooting at Winnenden in southern Germany by a former pupil who then kills himself.
    - June 2, 2010 - ENGLAND
    Twelve people are killed when a 52-year-old taxi driver goes on a shooting spree in the English region of Cumbria, before killing himself.
    - April 9, 2011 - THE NETHERLANDS

    A gunman opens fire in a packed mall in the Netherlands, killing six people before shooting himself dead.
    - July 22, 2011- NORWAY
    A bomb attack on government buildings in Oslo that kills eight is followed by a shooting which kills 69 at a summer holiday camp organised by the ruling Labour party on the island of Utoeya, near to the capital. A right-wing extremist is arrested for carrying out both attacks.
    - December 13, 2011 - BELGIUM
    Three people, plus the gunman, are killed when a man, armed with grenades, opens fire on a square packed with children and Christmas shoppers in the eastern Belgian city of Liege.
    In ITALY a far-right militant kills two Senegalese street vendors and wounds three people in a shooting spree in Florence after which he apparently kills himself.

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    Default Re: European Record on School Shootings in the last 12 years.

    And your point is??????????????

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    Default Re: European Record on School Shootings in the last 12 years.

    Justification...

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    Yep!
    Phillip Allen will be along shortly to put this into proper perspective for us!

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    Default Re: European Record on School Shootings in the last 12 years.

    Another one to be micro-chipped.... freaking gun loonies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Bay View Post
    Another one to be micro-chipped.... freaking gun loonies
    I'd rather enjoy you making the attempt.

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    Rod, Europe has almost 4 times the population of the USA.
    mass shootings in the last 5 years in the USA is almost 4 times that of Europe.

    thank you for pointing this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodSBT View Post
    I'd rather enjoy you making the attempt.
    Aw hell, lighten up will you?
    We'll have a team micro-chipping at halftime in the Super Bowl on TV.
    Arizona and I will micro-chip you and Phillip before an audience of Billions!
    The world will be a safer place with you and Phillip "on the grid"!

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    Default Re: European Record on School Shootings in the last 12 years.

    " Originally Posted by RodSBT

    I'd rather enjoy you making the attempt."

    You would... that's kinda weird

    ROTFLMAO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meli View Post
    Rod, Europe has almost 4 times the population of the USA.
    mass shootings in the last 5 years in the USA is almost 4 times that of Europe.

    thank you for pointing this out.

    Check your stats again, Meli. The numbers above are for the Eurozone.

    Lets compare numbers going back 80-100 years.
    Hitler had a thing or two to say about gun control too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Bernstein View Post
    You couldn't wait until the bodies were cold to turn this tragedy into a political rant, could ya?

    Sick.
    Norman, you progressive socialists started the "political" rant decades ago.
    Don't lecture me on whats sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodSBT View Post
    Check your stats again, Meli. The numbers above are for the Eurozone.

    Lets compare numbers going back 80-100 years.
    Hitler had a thing or two to say about gun control too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodSBT View Post
    Norman, you progressive socialists started the "political" rant decades ago.
    Don't lecture me on whats sick.
    I'll lecture you on what's sick!
    You, little man, are sick!!!!!
    Go get some meds before it's too late!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Bay View Post
    " Originally Posted by RodSBT

    I'd rather enjoy you making the attempt."

    You would... that's kinda weird

    ROTFLMAO!
    Still chuckling here

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    Default Re: European Record on School Shootings in the last 12 years.

    School shootings in Australia and New Zealand in the last 12 years...
    None.


    School shootings in the USA...


    List of notable U.S. school shootings

    Further information: List of school-related attacks
    Name Location Date Year Number of Victims
    2008 University of Central Arkansas shootings Conway, Arkansas October 27 2008 2
    2011 Virginia Tech shooting Blacksburg, Virginia December 8 2011 2
    Alisal High School Salinas, California October 1 2010 1
    Amish school shooting Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania October 2 2006 6
    Amityville High School shooting Amityville, New York February 1 1993 1
    Appalachian School of Law shooting Grundy, Virginia January 16 2002 3
    Atlanta University Center Atlanta, Georgia September 3 2009 1 Sophomore Jasmine Lynn was shot around 12:30 a.m. Thursday September 3, 2009 on James P. Brawley Drive in the Atlanta University Center, according to the Fulton County Medical Examiner’s office.[49]
    Atlantic Shores Christian School shooting Chesapeake, Virginia December 16 1988 1
    Belleville Township HS East Belleville, Illinois August 17 2010 1
    Berkner High School shooting Richardson, Texas November 6 1992 1
    Bethel Regional High School shooting Bethel, Alaska February 19 1997 2
    Birney Elementary School Tacoma, Washington February 26 2010 1
    Blackville-Hilda High School shooting Blackville, South Carolina October 12 1995 2
    Buell Elementary School shooting Mount Morris Township, Michigan February 29 2000 1
    California State University, Fullerton massacre Fullerton, California July 12 1976 7
    Campbell County High School shooting Jacksboro, Tennessee November 8 2005 1
    Canandaigua Academy shooting Canandaigua, New York May 5 2009 1
    Cape Fear High School shooting Fayetteville, North Carolina October 24 2011 0
    Case Western Reserve University shooting Cleveland, Ohio May 9 2003 1
    Central High School shooting Knoxville, Tennessee August 21 2008 1
    Central Middle School shooting Sheridan, Wyoming September 17 1993 1
    Chardon High School shooting Chardon, Ohio February 27 2012 3
    Cleveland Elementary School shooting San Diego, California January 29 1979 2
    Cleveland School massacre Stockton, California January 17 1989 6
    Columbia High School shooting East Greenbush, New York February 9 2004 0
    Columbine High School massacre Littleton, Colorado April 20 1999 15
    Covina High School shooting Covina, California April 30 2009 0
    Davidson High School Shooting Mobile, Alabama March 9 2008 1
    Deer Creek Middle School Littleton, Colorado February 23 2010 0
    Deer Creek Middle School shooting Littleton, Colorado April 7 1982 1
    Deer Valley High School shooting Antioch, California September 16 2009 0
    Delaware State University shooting Dover, Delaware September 21 2007 1
    Dillard High School shooting Fort Lauderdale, Florida November 12 2008 1
    Discovery Middle School Madison, Alabama February 5 2010 1
    E.O. Green School shooting Oxnard, California February 12 2008 1
    East Carter High School shooting Grayson, Kentucky January 18 1993 2
    Edward Tilden High School shooting Chicago, Illinois November 20 1992 1
    Essex Elementary School shooting[45] Essex, Vermont August 24 2006 2
    Fairfax High School shooting Los Angeles, California January 21 1993 1
    Fairleigh Dickinson University shooting Florham Park, New Jersey April 4 2004 2
    Fort Gibson Middle School shooting Fort Gibson, Oklahoma December 6 1999 0
    Frontier Middle School shooting Moses Lake, Washington February 2 1996 3
    Goddard Middle School shooting Goddard, Kansas January 21 1985 1 deceased, 3 wounded
    Granite Hills High School shooting El Cajon, California March 22 2001 0
    Grimsley High School shooting Greensboro, North Carolina October 12 1994 1
    Hamilton High School shooting Scottdale, Georgia February 2 1996 1
    Hampton University Hampton, Virginia April 26 2009 0
    Harvard University Cambridge, Massachusetts May 18 2009 1 Justin Cosby, 21, was shot sometime before 5 p.m. Monday in J-Entry of Kirkland House. The Harvard University Police responded at approximately 4:48 p.m., and Cosby was taken to Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, where he died
    Heath High School shooting Paducah, Kentucky December 1 1997 3
    Henry Ford Community College shooting Dearborn, Michigan April 10 2009 2
    Henry Ford High School shooting Detroit, Michigan October 16 2008 1
    Henry Foss High School shooting Tacoma, Washington January 3 2007 1
    Herbert Henry Dow High School Midland, Michigan March 8 2007 1
    Heritage High School shooting Conyers, Georgia May 20 1999 0
    Hetzel Union Building shooting State College, Pennsylvania September 17 1996 1
    Hubbard Woods School shooting Winnetka, Illinois May 20 1988 1
    John McDonogh High School shooting New Orleans, Louisiana April 14 2003 1
    Kelly Elementary School Carlsbad, California October 8 2010 2 (wounded)
    Lake Worth Middle School shooting Lake Worth, Florida May 26 2000 1
    Larose-Cut Off Middle School shooting Larose, Louisiana May 18 2009 1
    Lindhurst High School shooting Olivehurst, California May 1 1992 4
    Louisiana Technical College shooting Baton Rouge, Louisiana February 8 2008 3
    Margaret Leary Elementary School shooting Butte, Montana April 12 1994 1
    Marinette High School Marinette, Wisconsin November 29 2010 1
    Martin Luther King, Jr. High School shooting Manhattan, New York January 15 2002 0
    Martinsville West Middle School Martinsville, Indiana March 25 2011 0
    Mid-Atlantic Christian University Elizabeth City, North Carolina October 3 2010 1
    Millard South High School shooting Omaha, Nebraska, United States January 5 2011 2
    Mitchell High School shooting Memphis, Tennessee February 11 2008 0
    Normal Community High School Normal, Illinois September 7 2012 0
    Northern Illinois University massacre DeKalb, Illinois February 14 2008 6
    Northern Virginia Community College Woodbridge, Virginia December 8 2009 0
    Ohio State University Columbus, Ohio March 9 2010 2[54]
    Oikos University shooting Oakland, California April 2 2012 7
    Olean High School shooting1 Olean, New York December 30 1974 3
    Orange High School shooting Hillsborough, North Carolina August 30 2006 1
    Palo Duro High School shooting Amarillo, Texas September 11 1992 0
    Parker Middle School dance shooting1 Edinboro, Pennsylvania April 24 1998 1
    Parkway South Middle School shooting Manchester, Missouri January 20 1983 2
    Pearl City Middle School Pearl City, Hawaii May 23 2011 1
    Pearl High School shooting Pearl, Mississippi October 1 1997 2
    Perry Hall High School Perry Hall, Maryland August 27 2012 1 (injury)
    Pine Forest Senior High School Fayetteville, North Carolina May 6 1986
    Pine Middle School shooting Reno, Nevada March 14 2006 0
    Pinellas Park High School Largo, Florida February 11 1988 1
    Platte Canyon High School shooting Bailey, Colorado September 27 2006 2
    Portland Junior High School shooting Portland, Connecticut December 10 1985 1
    Princeton Day School Princeton, New Jersey April 3 1975 1 wounded
    Randallstown High School shooting Randallstown, Maryland May 7 2004 0
    Red Lake Senior High School massacre Red Lake, Minnesota March 21 2005 8
    Red Lion Area Junior High School shootings Red Lion, Pennsylvania April 24 2003 2
    Reseda High School shooting Reseda, California February 22 1993 1
    Richland High School shooting Lynnville, Tennessee November 15 1995 2
    Rocori High School shooting Cold Spring, Minnesota September 24 2003 2
    Ross Elementary School Houston, Texas April 19 2011 0[66]
    San Diego State University shooting San Diego, California August 15 1996 3
    San Jose State University San Jose, California May 10 2011 3[67]
    Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting Newtown, Connecticut December 14 2012 27 (28 including shooter [suicide] or 29 if also including mother of shooter who was elsewhere).
    Santana High School shooting Santee, California March 5 2001 2
    Simon's Rock College of Bard shooting Great Barrington, Massachusetts December 14 1992 2
    Skyline College shooting San Bruno, California September 2 2009 0
    St. James Grammar School Penns Grove, New Jersey February 24 1975 1 killed 2 wounded
    Stillwater Junior High School Stillwater, Oklahoma September 26 2012 1 (suicide)
    SuccessTech Academy shooting Cleveland, Ohio October 10 2007 1
    Thurston High School shooting Springfield, Oregon May 21 1998 2
    University of Alabama in Huntsville Huntsville, Alabama February 12 2010 3
    University of Arizona Nursing School shooting Tucson, Arizona October, 28 2002 4
    University of Arkansas shooting Fayetteville, Arkansas August 28 2000 2
    University of Iowa shooting Iowa City, Iowa November 1 1991 6
    University of North Carolina at Greensboro Greensboro, North Carolina March 24 2007 0 The victim, Stephen Cobb, was shot by Brian Patrick Martin when an argument about a potential drug deal that went bad.
    University of Texas at Austin Austin, Texas September 28 2010 1
    University of Texas Massacre Austin, Texas August 1 1966 16
    University of Washington shooting Seattle, Washington April 2 2007 2
    Virginia Tech massacre Blacksburg, Virginia April 16 2007 32
    Walpole Elementary School Walpole, New Hampshire February 10 2012 1 (injury)
    Wauwatosa West High School shooting Wauwatosa, Wisconsin December 1 1993 1
    Wesleyan University1 Middletown, Connecticut May 1 2009 1
    Weston High School shooting Cazenovia, Wisconsin September 29 2006 2
    Westside Middle School shooting Jonesboro, Arkansas March 24 1998 5
    Wickliffe Middle School shooting Wickliffe, Ohio November 7 1994 1
    Worthing High School Houston, Texas March 30 2011 1
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    School shootings in the U.S. in the last 24 hours - too damn many!

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    Hey Stevie, how about telling us the story of Port Arthur and that Martin Bryant guy?

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    The murders committed by Martin Bryant resulted in more stringent gun laws and were introduced by a conservative government. There hasn't been anything like that since.
    Anything else you need to know...roddy?
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    He's the reason for our present gun laws Rod. But then I'm not quibbling about yours here, or even suggesting you could change them. It's just the seemingly acceptable 'collateral damage' that appals me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arizona Bay View Post
    " Originally Posted by RodSBT

    I'd rather enjoy you making the attempt."

    You would... that's kinda weird

    ROTFLMAO!
    Gotta find the MelBrooks character to fit this dialog

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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    He's the reason for our present gun laws Rod. But then I'm not quibbling about yours here, or even suggesting you could change them. It's just the seemingly acceptable 'collateral damage' that appals me.
    The notion that I am somehow accepting "collateral damage" is ludicrous at best. What is appalling is the notion that a horrible, brutal tragedy that happened thousands of miles from me is laid at my feet as though I am responsible for it and as McMike stated "blood" on my hands. I've seen the bildge sink deep in the muck at times but what the gun grabbers have done here today reaches new lows.

    I won't stand for sniveling socialists who want to take away my means of protecting my family from the rotten scum that committed the heinous acts in Connecticut. These socialist/progressive rats are of the same mindset that committed the Jews, Gypsies, Russians, Ukrainians, Armenians, Cambodians, Chinese, First Nations People, Vietnamese, Aboriginals and all the other people of the world to being disarmed and then slaughtered by their "leaders" and gov do-gooders in the name of progress and reasonable gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodSBT View Post
    The notion that I am somehow accepting "collateral damage" is ludicrous at best. What is appalling is the notion that a horrible, brutal tragedy that happened thousands of miles from me is laid at my feet as though I am responsible for it and as McMike stated "blood" on my hands. I've seen the bildge sink deep in the muck at times but what the gun grabbers have done here today reaches new lows.

    I won't stand for sniveling socialists who want to take away my means of protecting my family from the rotten scum that committed the heinous acts in Connecticut. These socialist/progressive rats are of the same mindset that committed the Jews, Gypsies, Russians, Ukrainians, Armenians, Cambodians, Chinese, First Nations People, Vietnamese, Aboriginals and all the other people of the world to being disarmed and then slaughtered by their "leaders" and gov do-gooders in the name of progress and reasonable gun control.
    Oh dear you have yet to actually study gun control laws. Do you really need a fully automatic assalt rifle or a 13 shot handgun, no, gun control does not mean disarming the idea is to prevent those that should not have access to firearms from doing harm.

    Mike a sniveling conservative.

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    You really do have a problem Rod.
    Individually you have nothing at all to do with it of course, but collectively all 2nd amendment supporters at least share the responsibility. The whole country shares the sorrow and the responsibility. Spitting out names at people who don't agree with you is unproductive and uncovers the raw nerve the event has exposed. No one is going to take your guns, unless you are diagnosed as unhinged maybe, but a better way must be found and maybe some compromises made. Surely you can agree with that?
    Unless of course your distrust of government and 'the other' is so complete that reason has no place in your thinking.

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    did you know those poor babies are still inside the building.?
    they may have to stay there until Sunday, seems unnecessarily cruel.
    I hope they leave the heating on

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodSBT View Post
    Check your stats again, Meli. The numbers above are for the Eurozone.

    Lets compare numbers going back 80-100 years.
    Hitler had a thing or two to say about gun control too.
    Switzerland and Norway are not even in the EU, let alone the Euro.
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    IMAGINES VEL NON FUERINT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Craig-Bennett View Post
    Switzerland and Norway are not even in the EU, let alone the Euro.
    And of the list in the O.P. only 4 are school shootings. I am at a bit of a loss to understand the point of the post - is it to highlight the tragically high numbers of school shootings in the USA?
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    This really should have an absurdity skit

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    I think Bods trying to point out that it happens everywhere, who da thunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodSBT View Post
    Check your stats again, Meli. The numbers above are for the Eurozone.

    Lets compare numbers going back 80-100 years.
    Hitler had a thing or two to say about gun control too.
    You mentioned Hitler on your own thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanz View Post
    You mentioned Hitler on your own thread?
    That's what I'm saying, this thread is freaking absurd. It's sent me off into Mel Brooks comedy clips clips for relief. What kind of meaning can there be for this tragedy by making an absurd comparison to tragedies in other countries? Especially when it only proves we have a much higher death rate from guns?

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    When you read the thread title and the list of incidents he quotes you question whether RodBST is just dumb or thinks that we all are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clarkey View Post
    And of the list in the O.P. only 4 are school shootings. I am at a bit of a loss to understand the point of the post - is it to highlight the tragically high numbers of school shootings in the USA?
    Yes.
    Try to work out what the marketing guy wants you to do then do precisely the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    When you read the thread title and the list of incidents he quotes you question whether RodBST is just dumb or thinks that we all are.
    And it's clear too that he was somewhere else when they were passing out empathy.

    This thread has led me to realize that nothing RodBST has to post is worth the time it takes to read.
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    trying to get away from the poit scoring and political rant....it does seem that the countries in (however loosely you classify) europethat have the worst incidences similar to the USA scenario are the ones with the least stringent gun control.

    ...but that aside... in answer to the claim that gun control is effectively unenforceable or impractical as there are simply already too many guns in the public domain in the US.... how about this...?

    MUCH tighter controls on ammunition sale.

    In any of the countriesI have most recently lived in in Europe, UK Portugal France .....I have known of loads of weopons in private hands where it is simply impossible to buy the ammunition... some examples ...
    As a kid we had, and played with in the street, my grandad's martini action enfield service rifle. My father's service issue Webley revolver. I was offered a winchester 300 recently...any number of newer weopons are in and around.....but they are useless because here, anyway, you simply can't buy the ammo. Not available or too hard to get round the legislation. ergo..unuseable.

    Ban the sale of ammunition, nobody's taking your precious gun away, no compensation scheme, no buy -back just overnight a completely useless piece of kit...
    When I hear the guy in the batman movie premier shooting had recently bought 5000 rounds, didn't someone say ....er thats for hunting bunnies is it?
    I have a pair of skis in the shed but there's no snow here. useless
    I have an eight track player in my car, can't get the tapes.... useless
    I have a pin fire belgian five shot revolver...cant get the shells. useless
    Make it difficult or impoossible for the twenty year old retard to get the ammo he can't kill twenty children, or not so easily anyway.

    Simplistic , I know , but alot more workeable than 'gun' control

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    I note that Japan has the strictest firearms "control" laws of all. It seems that they don't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeG View Post
    This really should have an absurdity skit

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    Quote Originally Posted by purri View Post
    I note that Japan has the strictest firearms "control" laws of all. It seems that they don't work.

    How did you arrive at that decision?

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