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    We went to the Classic Boat Museum in Cowes last weekend while on the way back from looking at Ankle Deep.

    Its just off the waterfront at East Cowes and well worth a visit. If your berthed at West Cowes, the chain ferry gets you to the other side and is free for foot passengers.

    Bear with me as I put the pics up. There was a great selection of sailing boats and also powerboats. The Museum has grown quickly.

    Took ferry from Southampton docks. Breezy day 30knots gusting 50. Northerly wind down Southampton Water putting waves into Cowes.

    Southampton.





    Swedish Sub at the quay.



    Old and the new



    Hamble river entrance of Southampton Water. Sailing Dreams will need to take the low HP planing boat out of there.



    Solent from Southampton Water. Think the area must be similar to the Chesapeake.


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    Entrance to Cowes





    Pink house is where Uffa Fox lived.



    Harbourmaster in a Duver 23.



    Sopranino crossed the Atlantic and upto New York.




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    Canadian canoe from Canada.






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    This was built by Berthon. It folds up.










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    Very nice, thanks for posting. Now about that U-shaped bracket on the aft end of the tiller. Whazit?

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    SAS canoe for attacking German shipping. Ouriggers can go out or in. Alloy.








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    Wood. Shead designed and owned this.









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    Caribbean boat.



    Proctor designed flat bottomed sailing boat. SigneT Supposed to be very good. The class reckon they stay out sailing when all the others have scampered for shelter.
    http://www.sailsignet.org.uk/
    Very impressive for a flat bottomed design. Kits still available. http://www.fyneboatkits.co.uk/kits/sailing/signet/





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    Lots of dinghies.

    #]

    Some details of a few

    Jib track.



    Adjustable mast foot



    Very minimal mast thwart.





    Hollow masts. Everything inside.


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    Nice Thames Skiff





    A Fife in the restoration shed.



    Speed! Wood.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Woxbox View Post
    Very nice, thanks for posting. Now about that U-shaped bracket on the aft end of the tiller. Whazit?

    Could it be part of a wind vane self-steering gear arrangement?
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    Thanks for this, especially Sopranino. I knew she was small, but had no idea HOW small. Seeing you sitting in her cockpit is a revelation. This hits home hard, as I'm considering obtaining a smallish, 20 footer for singlehanded racing right now.

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    Thanks!!!! love the pictures!!!!
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    Great pics, thanks !!

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    I'd like to take a try at Lyndora - just for a few minutes...
    Nice pics- thanks for posting.

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    Nice photos, that looks like fun. Do you know if Sopranino is a Laurent Giles design? She looks a lot like a lapstrake version of Trekka to me - lots of similar little details.

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    Sopranino is a Laurent Giles design. She was designed for offshore racing believing that small could be sea worthy. The Junior OffShore Group (JOG) was sceptical but it became apparent that she was capable.

    Plans are available from Laurent Giles, not cheap, but cheaper than the bigger boats like the Vertue.

    There was a book written on her journey accross the Atlantic. She is long and thin and well designed. The keel is detatchable for storage. Fin and skeg, high aspect.



    Trekka (I think) was designed after and is wider. Also she has a yawl rig.



    Sopranino at the time was the smallest boat accross the Atlantic and Trekka I think still is, the smallest boat to complete two circumnavigations. There are books on Trekka's voyaging also.

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    It was a thrill to sit in Sopranino's cockpit. Wasn't completely sure I was allowed to but other boats had signs saying no boarding, Sopranino didn't and she looked like others had sat there as well. Must have been ok because the staff came by and said nothing.

    So I sat there, trying to imagine crossing an ocean in such a small vessel. She is wonderfully well built, tough like a barrel, it was easy to feel the faith they had in her design and construction. Could not believe how small the cockpit was when I actually sat there. If you look closely at the picture, my knees are only about an inch from the opposite cockpit edge when my back is against the coaming. Seemed impossible to brace my feet, so guessing they sat further out at the deck edge.



    Wonderful boat.

    Brian

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    thank you Brian

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    I like the F36, the Caribbean boat, and of course, this:


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    Is this the same sopranino? Here I saw her at Club NŠutico Quilmes a year ago, abandoned at the boatyard:


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    The U-shaped bracket on the tiller is part of the Braine self-steering setup. The mainsheet attaches to slide on the curved track to balance the helm.

    I visited Sopranino last year in Falmouth for the 60th anniversary of the Junior Offshore Group. I also got to meet Patrick Ellam. Sopranino's only about a foot shorter than Trekka but displaces about half as much. I used to see her at the Museum of Yachting in Newport, Rhode Island in the 90's before she was brought back to England by the JOG. I don't think there is much of the original boat left after the restoration other than her fittings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyhavenpotterer View Post

    I like how the home port is labeled "Of Scarborourgh". Kinda fancy.

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    Makes you want to throw a battery in there, and launch her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyhavenpotterer View Post
    It was a thrill to sit in Sopranino's cockpit. Wasn't completely sure I was allowed to but other boats had signs saying no boarding, Sopranino didn't and she looked like others had sat there as well. Must have been ok because the staff came by and said nothing.
    That's cool, great boat, neat thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyhavenpotterer View Post

    Speed! Wood.



    Ed
    This one interested me. Had to do some Googling, but found this picture....



    ...from this website...

    http://www.classicfordmag.co.uk/2011...the-week-3152/

    Here's a bit of the info...

    o illustrate the potential of its engines Ford teamed up with Sabre Engines to build Miss Britain IV, a 550 hp powerboat, featured in this weekís image. Powered by a modified Ford Cargo truck engine, Miss Britain IV took to Coniston Water, in the Lake District, on 15 November 1982. Achieving a speed of 124.24 mph (just under 200 kph) Miss Britain IV broke the previous world diesel water speed record of 119.05 mph. Following the record breaking performance Miss Britain IV was retired and earlier this year was donated to the Classic Boat Museum, on the Isle of Wight

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    Thats her. The notice said she held the speed record. She still has the Sabre engines in. It was concors. Looked ready to go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyhavenpotterer View Post
    It was a thrill to sit in Sopranino's cockpit. Wasn't completely sure I was allowed to but other boats had signs saying no boarding, Sopranino didn't and she looked like others had sat there as well. Must have been ok because the staff came by and said nothing.

    So I sat there, trying to imagine crossing an ocean in such a small vessel. She is wonderfully well built, tough like a barrel, it was easy to feel the faith they had in her design and construction. Could not believe how small the cockpit was when I actually sat there. If you look closely at the picture, my knees are only about an inch from the opposite cockpit edge when my back is against the coaming. Seemed impossible to brace my feet, so guessing they sat further out at the deck edge.



    Wonderful boat.

    Brian
    I'm reading the book "Sopranino" now and did a web search for photos of the boat to get a better idea of her size. Your's are great, thank you! Really amazing how narrow she is. I'm fixing up a 1960's (sorry, plastic) Pearson Electra for ocean coastal cruising. It's heartening to see an even smaller boat being so capable in blue water. Also amazing how strong the seemingly delicate lapstrake construction must be. Look at the narrowness of those ribs! BTW the book is well written and entertaining.

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    Was there another boat built to Sopranino's plans? I saw Sopranino, or its twin stored in the ammunition magazine at Fort Adams, in Newport, Rhode Island. That might have been twenty years ago.

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    Great thread.
    Very enjoyable.
    They seem to have a bit of everything.
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    You can buy plans for a "Sopranino" called the Barchetta class from Laurent Giles still. Not too pricey at £350.

    https://laurentgilesarchive.com/product/sopranino/

    There was one built maybe 10 years ago on the East coast UK in clinker plywood, ended up in Europe where I've seen it for sale a few times.

    There is also a Trekka for sale, built strip plank but not launched on Apollo Duck for just £6k.



    http://yachts.apolloduck.co.uk/boat.phtml?id=514918

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