Catching Up With: RED HERRING

[Carl Cramer]

I hadn't heard much about her since her launching in 1980: One of the first canting-keelers, 55' LOA, cold-molded by Eric Goetz.

A great photograph was posted yesterday, and some comments about her from her owner, Steve Clark.

To see more, please read My Wooden Boat of the Week, http://boats.woodenboat.com

And please feel encouraged to comment.

Thanks, Carl

[Hwyl]

Now you are talking Carl, I saw her in the yard in Bristol. My kinda boat

[rbgarr]

IIRC the original concept was for her to have fore and aft centerboards as well. Did she get them, I wonder?

[Carl Cramer]

She did, RB. And Steve talks about them:

"Next I decided the centerboards were too small, and so installed a deep canard daggerboard. The keel was originally a wood/ composite blade with a fairly low aspect ratio bulb, when I decided I didn't trust it anymore, I had Duncan MacLane and Paul Bogatai design a good one that was machined out of steel with a modern looking bulb."

Nice rendering of her -- Where did that come from?

Thanks, Carl

[rbgarr]

Hmm. Found it quite a while ago and was surprised because I too remember when RH was launched and didn't know about all the appendages; so cadged the drawing into my boat photo file on a whim. Thus I don't remember exactly. Boat-net maybe? I like the sleek flush-deck vs the trunk cabin version, but the latter choice would of course have more room down below.

[John Meachen]

Looks like a really easily driven hull.Quite clearly designed with no consideration of maximising the number of berths or minimising marina charges that are based on length.Echoes of the big and efficient Oceanus by William Garden seem to be there.

[Carl Cramer]

Somewhere I saw that Steve's dad was partially inspired in her design by Ray Hunt's 110 and 210.

And here's C. Ray's 510, at 44' LOA (I think):

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1345588916

Sorry, the image is too big to post here. Very cool boat -- apparently, one may have been built in NZ.

Thanks, Carl

(I misnamed the file as "519" -- sorry.)

[Ben Fuller]

As a sometime crew on the HERRING, remarks were sent to Carl for his blog. Van's inspirations were several. He was a pioneer American C cat racer ( hence David Hubbard as designer) and well familiar with the efficiencies of being skinny and light. At the time he was sailing an International Canoe ( which Steve was building). L. Francis I think in the sailing machine writes about cats, sailing canoes and canting keels. Van worked down that list.

[rbgarr]

Except for the canting keel RH reminds me some of Arion: http://www.dmcboats.com/takingshape.htm

[JimConlin]

Except for the canting keel RH reminds me some of Arion: http://www.dmcboats.com/takingshape.htm

Over the last twenty years, I've been treated to three uniquely beautiful and clever boats moored in the south end of Marion Harbor. Red Herring was there in the early days, followed by Moxie


and in recent years, Walter Greene, an absolutely wonderful cover of Arion built by Damian McLaughlin in wood composite.


I would not be surprised to learn that the concept for Red Herring was also influenced by Arion.

[Carl Cramer]

Uniquely beautiful they all are, Ray. Thanks for posting them.