Another Ryan Lie.

[ccmanuals]

Maybe we should start a wbf pool to see how many times a day the Romney/Ryan camp can lie to the country.

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Speaking this Thursday at a campaign rally in North Canton, Ohio, Lyin’ Paul Ryan told 3 lies trying to convince people President Obama “broke his promise” by failing to keep a General Motors plant in his hometown of Janesville, Wisconsin, open. Ryan started his lie fest by claiming the Janesville Assembly plant closed “in 2009″.

For lie #2, he stated: “I remember President Obama visiting it when he was first running, saying he’ll keep that plant open. One more broken promise.”

For lie #3 he blamed Obama’s “terrible” energy policies for the closure of the plant stating “One of the reasons that plant got shut down was $4 gasoline. You see, this costs jobs. The president’s terrible energy policies are costing us jobs.”
In reality, the plant closed in 2008 while George W. Bush was still in office.
MSNBC’s The Ed Show put together the following chronology of the real events surrounding the closure of this Wisconsin plant:

January 20, 2001: George W. Bush took the oath of office as the 43rd President of the United States. He is re-elected in 2004 to serve through Jan. 20, 2009.
February 2008: Sen. Barack Obama campaigns for president at the Janesville Assembly plant.
June 3, 2008: GM announces it will close the Janesville Assembly plant in 2010, citing high gas prices and a sluggish economy. U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan writes a letter urging GM to keep the plant open.
June 20, 2008: GM announces additional layoffs at the Janesville Assembly plant.
June 28, 2008: Gas prices peak at $4.12 per gallon in the U.S., a record that still stands.
September 15, 2008: Financial services firm Lehman Brothers files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, the largest bankruptcy filing in U.S. history.
October 23, 2008: GM announces it will move up the closure of the Janesville Assembly plant from 2010 to Dec. 23, 2008. Merry Christmas!
December 23, 2008: last SUV rolled off the line at the GM Janesville Assembly plant.
January 20, 2009: President George W. Bush leaves office after eight years. Barack Obama is sworn in as the 44th President of the United States.
August 16, 2012: GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan makes a series of false statements about the Janesville Assembly plant closure.

[Keith Wilson]

Steve Benen has been doing a long-running column every Friday entitled "Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity". He's up to the 30th edition. Partisan invective, for sure, but mostly accurate. Read it here, with links to past columns.

It really appears that one major strategy of the Republican candidates is to lie blatantly without the slightest concern for even the vaguest resemblance to truth, and hope voters are too dumb to notice. The "removing welfare work requirements" lie was one, and the "looting Medicare" lie was another. Both compltely contrary to reality.

[Gerarddm]

Of course they are liars. They know not anything else, and will earn the ignominious defeat they so richly deserve.

[jclays]

Why dont we do the same for Obama. If his lips move his lying.

[Gerarddm]

Because you can't.

BTW, try 'he is' next time.

[Cuyahoga Chuck]

Why dont we do the same for Obama. If his lips move his lying.

Just to be sure we are all talking about the same thing, could you recall one or two of these lies? Not unfulfilled campaign promises. LIES.

[elf]

Funny how the Regressives always seem to be the ones with grammar and spelling problems. Ties in with their difficulty with facts.

Maybe they're all just dyslexic?

[John of Phoenix]

Of course they are liars. They know not anything else, and will earn the ignominious defeat they so richly deserve.

I hope you are right but "Fear, hate and lies" has worked very well for them for a long, looong time. The Base isn't getting any smarter, in fact they seem like they WANT to be lied to.

[jclays]

The President is a liar.

[pipefitter]

Steve Benen has been doing a long-running column every Friday entitled "Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity". He's up to the 30th edition.

Seems rather redundant. I mean, who exactly is he trying to reach with such a title? Surely not the ignorant and uninformed with using a word such as "mendacity." It's also likely that people that would use such a word, are already aware of Romney's/Ryans lies, and to anyone else, the author just comes across as yet another brand of posturing elitist that likes to listen to their self.

[John Smith]

Steve Benen has been doing a long-running column every Friday entitled "Chronicling Mitt's Mendacity". He's up to the 30th edition. Partisan invective, for sure, but mostly accurate. Read it here, with links to past columns.

It really appears that one major strategy of the Republican candidates is to lie blatantly without the slightest concern for even the vaguest resemblance to truth, and hope voters are too dumb to notice. The "removing welfare work requirements" lie was one, and the "looting Medicare" lie was another. Both compltely contrary to reality.

The problem is that we, the people, have come to accept this lying as free speech, and the media, who should be separating ot the lies from the truth simply is not doing its job.

[PhaseLockedLoop]

The President is a liar.

Well, that settles that. Plus, he says Romney is selfish for keeping a horse! And Emily has a Dusty Springfield CD.

[B_B]

...It really appears that one major strategy of the Republican candidates is to lie blatantly without the slightest concern for even the vaguest resemblance to truth, and hope voters are too dumb to notice...

I sincerely don't believe this to be correct. I think they lie knowing those who know it to be a lie will either vote for them anyways or wouldn't have voted for them anyways.

They're reinforcing a tautology - the facts as presented may be untrue but what those facts mean is true.

(Dems are weak on Defense, Dems are tax and spenders and like deficit spending - that these two ideas can be held simultaneously is beyond belief, but they are - etc.)

[John Smith]

Maybe I missed something while on my trip, but it seems to me Romney picked someone for VP who doesn't pass the "qualified to be president" test, as Ryan does not have much experience in the private sector. That is the reason Romney says he is qualified and Obama isn't.

[ccmanuals]

They're reinforcing a tautology - the facts as presented may be untrue but what those facts mean is true.

this is about the dumbest thing I have ever read

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

[B_B]

They're reinforcing a tautology - the facts as presented may be untrue but what those facts mean is true.

this is about the dumbest thing I have ever read

Tautology (rhetoric), a series of self-reinforcing statements that cannot be disproved because they depend on the assumption that they are already correct

[ccmanuals]

statements that cannot be disproved

and therein is the problem since they were disproved

[Mrleft8]

Well, that settles that. Plus, he says Romney is selfish for keeping a horse! And Emily has a Dusty Springfield CD.

How do you know that it's dusty?..... When was the last time you saw Emily's Springfield CD, anyway? And while we're at it..... What happened to the Buffalo part of that CD?.... Hmmmmm?

[B_B]

and therein is the problem since they were disproved

Not to those who believe it, which was the point of the "reinforcing" part of my assertion - no amount of true facts will undo the belief that certain other facts are true even if those facts are really untrue, for those that believe those "untrue" facts are true are uninterested in having those facts be proved untrue.

[Glen Longino]

The President is a liar.

jclays is a...how can I say it without gettling banned for being rude?
Oh, I know, jclays would know now the truth if it crawled up his leg and bit him on the arse!

[Glen Longino]

The President is a liar.

How rude! Where is Scot?
If I said, "jclays is a liar", I might be banned, but jclays can spew his rudeness at will?

[Tom Montgomery]

The problem is... the media, who should be separating ot the lies from the truth simply is not doing its job.

Correct. And that is why the liars and demagogues get away with their ****.

It is why the liars and demagogues KNOW they can get away with their ****.

[Domesticated_Mr. Know It All]

Relax Glen, he doesn't want the truth, he can't handle the truth.
Lets go have a beer eh?

[Glen Longino]

Relax Glen, he doesn't want the truth, he can't handle the truth.
Lets go have a beer eh?

Thanks for reminding me!
Lone Stars and Tequila on me...er, I mean, on Lefty!

[Arizona Bay]

It seems that Ryan even lies to his base...

(Reuters) - When General Motors announced in 2008 that it would shut down its assembly plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, local Representative Paul Ryan leaped into action.


The Republican met with company executives to try to change their minds. He lobbied the Obama administration for federal retraining and economic-development funds.
He even broke with his party -- and his future presidential running mate Mitt Romney -- to vote in Congress for a $15 billion federal bailout for GM and Chrysler as they teetered on the edge of insolvency.

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Along with the auto bailout vote, Ryan voted for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, the $700 billion bank bailout that is anathema to Tea Party conservatives. He opposed Obama's 2009 stimulus effort, but his office sought to secure funding once it was signed into law.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...2F+Top+News%29

Just another weasel r

[elf]

Steve Benen's project is entirely for the purpose of developing the links so non-Regressives have them easily to hand when trying to get their remaining Regressive acquaintances to see how much Romney and Ryan habitually lie.

The Mendacity Lists are clearly not aimed at Regressives because they don't do their own research.

[John Smith]

this is about the dumbest thing I have ever read

Unfortunately, this is Republican logic. When Franken had his radio show he had a daily guest, barring illness or something, named Mark, who was a dittohead. Every day for nearly two years Mark would come on and Al would document that the "facts" Rush presented the day before in making his case were simply made up. Every day Mark would acknowledge the facts were not true, but continued to think the case they were used to make was valid.
"How can the the point or the case be valid if he can't use real facts to make it?" was a daily question. This went on for nearly two years. Mark didn't care what the actual facts were or that Limbaugh's not true. It simply didn't matter.

[David G]

And another , and another, and another.