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    Default What would a shipright do?

    In planking my boat, I noticed that there are three adjacent frames that are a little shallow in the lay of just this one plank at the turn of the bilge. They are forcing the plank to flatten out and not lay fair across these three frames. I am not going to make new frames, so the possible options include adding a slice to the frames, adding a veneer to the outside of the plank, or adding a slice to the inside of the plank.

    Not sure which would be easier or a better solution
    The wife says I can have a mistress as long as she has ribs made of white oak.

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    Default Re: What would a shipright do?

    The normal practice is to bulk out the frames, in English it is called firring out.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Default Re: What would a shipright do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    in English it is called firring out.
    I always thought the term was "twatting"...as in "twatting the frame", or "shaving the fresh twatting to the correct bevel", and so forth.

    Anyway, Nick's right, stick a bit on the frame, shave it down and never mention it to anyone. Delete this thread even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    I always thought the term was "twatting"...as in "twatting the frame", or "shaving the fresh twatting to the correct bevel", and so forth.

    Anyway, Nick's right, stick a bit on the frame, shave it down and never mention it to anyone. Delete this thread even.
    Jim, you are in the wrong thread http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...sailing-parody
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    Default Re: What would a shipright do?

    This is one application where epoxy adhesives really are worth their weight in gold.

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    Default Re: What would a shipright do?

    Like Nick said. Twatting a frame could be regarded as something completely different!

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    Default Re: What would a shipright do?

    Which reminds me, somehow, I've still to decide whether to rig my snotter with a cunt splice...

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    I'll never tell anybody or even admit that I ever read this.

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    Default Re: What would a shipright do?

    Is this a thread? I didn't see it.

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    Default Re: What would a shipright do?

    However........could you take a few pics and post them here so the rest of us can see how it's done???
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    Default Re: What would a shipright do?

    "In planking my boat, I noticed that there are three adjacent frames that are a little shallow in the lay of just this one plank at the turn of the bilge. They are forcing the plank to flatten out and not lay fair across these three frames."

    What type of planking first, then the options will flow.

    By the way, there's a word in this thread that I had hoped never to see in print. Somebody should fix that. / Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by chas View Post
    By the way, there's a word in this thread that I had hoped never to see in print. Somebody should fix that. / Jim
    It is usually spelt "cont", being the groove in between the strands in the lay of the rope. You worm a rope before parcelling and serving by laying the worming in that grove. Unfortunately sailors were a s rough as a bears bum, so you get other anatomical references including the arse of a block.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    • cut splice (originally called cunt splice) - A splice similar to the eye splice. It is typically used for light lines (e.g., the log-line) where a single splice would tend to come undone, the rope being frequently wet.[2] It makes a very strong knot. A cut splice is a join between two ropes, made by side splicing the ends slightly apart, to make an eye in the joined rope which lies shut when the rope is taut. Its original name was bowdlerised to "cut splice".



    Pictured above is the splice, the snotter and the history. Seriously, I still haven't decided how to rig Miss Molly's snotter. Sorry if I offended anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autonomous View Post
    • cut splice (originally called cunt splice) - A splice similar to the eye splice. It is typically used for light lines (e.g., the log-line) where a single splice would tend to come undone, the rope being frequently wet.[2] It makes a very strong knot. A cut splice is a join between two ropes, made by side splicing the ends slightly apart, to make an eye in the joined rope which lies shut when the rope is taut. Its original name was bowdlerised to "cut splice".



    Pictured above is the splice, the snotter and the history. Seriously, I still haven't decided how to rig Miss Molly's snotter. Sorry if I offended anyone.
    However, that is an eye splice with a flat seizing capturing the thimble. This is a cont splice

    As to Miss Molly's snotter, I would make a line long enoufh to go round the heel of the sprit and the mast. Splice a toggle in one end and an eye to fit the toggle in the other. Then clap on a square lashing to make the eye to fit the sprit. I would then eye splice the stanliff around the square siezing. The toggle and eye will then secure the snotter round the mast.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Default Re: What would a shipright do?

    Thank's. I'm quite new to this and will try to digest your instructions. The boat is only 15 feet long and, assuming I have any comprehension at all, rather than a stanliff a thumb cleat or eye on the mast should suffice.

    Now back to firring out, or twatting, as you prefer.

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    Thanks for the advice on firring out, twatting or whatever you call it. I will blacken the shop windows and invoke security protocol ALPHA 1, while executing this procedure. This thread will self destruct in five seconds.
    The wife says I can have a mistress as long as she has ribs made of white oak.

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