The Democratic party description . . .

[Rum_Pirate]

How would you describe/see the Democratic party in the USA

eg ". . . the party of light and sweetness, prosperity and justice, the party that will make all your dreams come true?"*

or other description.





* C&P'd from another post.

[Norman Bernstein]

How would you describe/see the Democratic party in the USA

eg ". . . the party of light and sweetness, prosperity and justice, the party that will make all your dreams come true?"*

If I were a blithering idiot, then yes, I might describe it that way.

[Rum_Pirate]

If I were a blithering idiot, then yes, I might describe it that way.

So on the assumption that you are not a 'blithering idiot' how would you describe/summarize it in a couple of sentences?

[David G]

"When there is a concentration of wealth and power into fewer and fewer hands, people with the mentality of gangsters come to the fore. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" -- Lord Acton (British historian, 1877)

This is a good shorthand description for one of the aspects of capitalism's innate tendency to oscillate out of control if allowed to swing too far in the direction of laissez-faire capitalism (actually, too far toward either end of the spectrum is not good). In the U.S. that has, increasingly, taken the form of corporate control of the political process, and the market. In my estimation - most of the social, political, and economic ills that we complain about are symptoms of this dynamic.

Neither of the parties has been immune to the greed, crony capitalism, minor corruptions, political sliminess and such which are emblematic of this stage of capitalism.

But there is a distinction between the two major parties. I see the Democratic party as the one significantly LESS captured by corporate interests. I think that's as good as we can hope for at the moment.

[elf]

Most of the Democrats I know are interested in seeking, exploring, selecting and enacting solutions to problems. Most of the Republicans I know are afraid of change, have trouble listening accurately and are not willing to consider the possibility that problems are not monolithic.

So I characterize the Democratic party as concerned about problems, trying to mediate between conflicting interests in most situations, susceptible to well-funded pressures but generally less willing to collapse in the face of them, and generally attempting to apply a humane approach to modern life.

[Norman Bernstein]

So on the assumption that you are not a 'blithering idiot' how would you describe/summarize it in a couple of sentences?

The 'justice and prosperity' part is accurate.

However, as for the rest of the troll, you can count me out.

[Kaa]

If I were a blithering idiot, then yes, I might describe it that way.

ROFL... :-)

Kaa

[Kaa]

Most of the Democrats I know are interested in seeking, exploring, selecting and enacting solutions to problems.

I think you mean

Most of the Democrats I know are interested in seeking, exploring, selecting and enacting government solutions to problems.

Kaa

[wardd]

I think you mean

Most of the Democrats I know are interested in seeking, exploring, selecting and enacting government solutions to problems.

Kaa

i bet you prefer koch brothers solutions to our problems

[Kaa]

I would say that I'm interested in enacting solutions to problems.

Why, that's such a telling expression :-D Instead of solving problems you're interested in enacting solutions :-D

There's a good chance that liberal forum members spend a great deal of time pursing non-government solutions to problems that you know nothing about.

As opposed to conservatives, right? :-) Who never pursue solutions to problems you know everything about :-D

Kaa

[Garret]

How would you describe/see the Democratic party in the USA

eg ". . . the party of light and sweetness, prosperity and justice, the party that will make all your dreams come true?"*

or other description.





* C&P'd from another post.

Since the post was in response to a post of mine, I'll respond.

1) Hardly
2) Cats in need of herding
3) A disparate group of people who largely believe that no man is an island & that we do have a duty to our fellow man.
4) There used to be Reps (true Conservatives) who also believed this, but they have been steamrolled by the "I got mine" & "If you aren't bragging about being a Christian, you're a communist" crowds.
5) While there are some who believe that gov't is the answer, they are not the majority & in fact, seem to want less "Big Brother" than the "Be very Afraid" Reps who are intent on removing any semblance of privacy & constitutional rights (except guns of course).

[Kaa]

I appreciate that the answer to the question "How would you describe/see the Democratic party in the USA" is

1) Hardly

:-D

Kaa

[elf]

Kaa, are you going to snipe or be part of the discussion?

Or, to put it bluntly, why do you like being such a jerk?

[Garret]

I appreciate that the answer to the question "How would you describe/see the Democratic party in the USA" is

Originally Posted by Garret
1) Hardly


:-D

Kaa

For those with reading comprehension issues: The "hardly" was referring to ". . . the party of light and sweetness, prosperity and justice, the party that will make all your dreams come true?"

But you knew that, didn't you?

[Kaa]

Kaa, are you going to snipe or be part of the discussion?

I *am* a part of the discussion, the quote in the OP is of my post :-D

Having said that, I don't see much of a discussion. More like proclamations of faith, seems like. So I think sniping is perfectly appropriate.

Or, to put it bluntly, why do you like being such a jerk?

Because I'm an evil monster who likes to extinguish rainbows, torture unicorns, and gnaw on the bones of Democrats, of course. Why do you ask? :-)

Kaa

[elf]

You've gotten quite a few answers and all you've done is snipe.

[Kaa]

You've gotten quite a few answers and all you've done is snipe.

Um, I haven't asked any questions. I'm not the OP -- did you not notice? :-)

Kaa

[elf]

You are ignorant of most registered( those that have not been purged as of yet) democrats. That's understandable, most dems are not in your social class. Your unawareness of that is telling. Don't worry you have plenty of bilge rat company.

Astounding ignorance. Oh that's part of being a Republican too.

[Norman Bernstein]

It's a part of American politics, I don't deny. Why is the democratic party dependent upon voters on welfare assistance? You especially declare yourself and all dems progressive, yet your political party is sucking on the welfare tit, and could not exist without it.

People on welfare don't have the right to vote?

You do nothing to eliminate the welfare state.....

What has the Republican party ever done to 'eliminate the welfare state'?

[John Smith]

So on the assumption that you are not a 'blithering idiot' how would you describe/summarize it in a couple of sentences?

First let's start with the Republican Party. The believe in keeping the government out of the free market, until the free market shows demand for something they don't like: then they want the government involved.

They want business to have an absolutely free ride, sans any regulations. In order to believe this they have to forget the rivers that were burning that forced the EPA into existence. They put corporatre profits above employee safety. The preach one thing, but practice another. They invoke Reagan's name to support stuff he didn't support. They label Ryan as a fiscal conservative, but he voted FOR all those Bush policies that are driving our debt up, and AGAINST all of Obama's efforts to change this.

The democrats believe the middle class is the tide that lifts all boats and a thriving economy requires a thriving middle class. Give the middle class more opportunities and better jobs, and the money trickles up to the business owners. We believe a woman has the right to make her own decisions as to her family planning, and is entitled to equal pay for equal work and a system that allows her the ability to sue for this, if necessary (The Republicans voted against that)

The Democrats believe freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. The Republicans think it means they can impose the Christian version of Sharia law on the rest of us.

Democrats believe the freedoms expressed and preserved in the constitution are freedoms of the individual. Republicans include churches and corporations as having these individual rights, although one cannot put a church or a corporation in jail.

All of this is pointless jibberish. The problem today's republicans have is that to make their "case" they must lie.

A classic example of Republican speak and how blaming Obama is more important than the truth is found in the uproar when the shoe bomber was read his Miranda rights. Newt Gingrich thought this was an outrage. When it was pointed out to Newt that the shoe bomber was also read his Miranda rights under Bush, Newt replied with great authority, "The Shoe bomber was an American citizen." This gave those on the Right fodder for their views, but the fact is that the shoe bomber was not an American citizen, and I have no doubt Gingrich knew that.

[Garret]

Well said John

[hokiefan]

You are ignorant of most registered( those that have not been purged as of yet) democrats. That's understandable, most dems are not in your social class. Your unawareness of that is telling. Don't worry you have plenty of bilge rat company.

Astounding ignorance. Oh that's part of being a Republican too.

More likely astounding arrogance.

[Garret]

It looks to me like the dems can't answer your question Rum. These bilge rats are out of touch with the reality of a registered dem voter. They must think there is only the small elite of the party you are interested in. John finds it easier to state what he thinks is wrong with the other party rather than answer your question. Are they ashamed of the large portion of registered dems that these elite depend on to get into office? I ask again, how many of the 70 + million are on welfare assistance and vote for the candidate that promises them more welfare, not a better job, but more welfare. How many jobs has the dem party produced in four years? How many expendables died in Afghanistan for no reason other than the "Good War"? Yeah our dem Prez. got a NPP, then commenced to kill hundreds of innocent people with illegal drones. This is the dem party reality, what these bilge elite will answer is a political dream that doesn't get past the convention. Now , try again John. BS Garret.

Wow, you are accusing people of ignoring reality? You seem to create one out of whole cloth. But, keep up the good fight - though I hope I never see your reality.

[ccmanuals]

why would anyone take the time to answer a bull sh$$t question.

[Cuyahoga Chuck]

I think you mean

Most of the Democrats I know are interested in seeking, exploring, selecting and enacting government solutions to problems.

Kaa

The lady didn't say that and you overstepping the boundries of propriety by trying to put words in her mouth.

[Kaa]

The lady didn't say that and you overstepping the boundries of propriety by trying to put words in her mouth.

Are you auditioning for the role of the board marm?

Do notice the lack of quotes and the difference between expressions "I think you mean" and "You have said".

Kaa

[Ascew]

There are so many aspects of "Democrat" that any attempt at a definition couldn't possible be accurate. However, I will add a couple lines that I think reflect my *wide brush* view of democrats, just for fun. A democrat is a soft hearted soul that believes in helping those that are down on their luck, victims of abuse, come from a bad start, got a raw deal, or just wasn't blessed with very many brains. A democrat wants to the preserve the environment, preserve the peace, not offend anyone and have everyone get along. A democrat wants to let everyone enjoy the freedom we have here in America and thinks that we should do everything we can to make the world a better place. A democrat doesn't want to talk about money or how to pay for all these things, since there is plenty of money on wall street and we just need to figure out how to get it.

[Mad Scientist]

An old quote: "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat." Will Rogers, perhaps?

Tom