Shooter at Texas A & M

[Nanoose]

Just read the headline . . . don't see a thread yet.

Any details, Glen et al?

[Peerie Maa]

Texas 'shooter' detained near A&M University campus

​Police in the US state of Texas say they have taken a man into custody after a shooting near a university.
Local news outlets reported there were several casualties in the incident near Texas A&M University in the city of College Station.
It is reported that at least one police officer was among the wounded.
A police spokeswoman told CNN that the shooting happened within two streets of the campus sometime before 12:45 local time (17:45 GMT).
Texas A&M University issued a warning to staff and students to avoid the area.
There are no confirmed fatalities as a result of the shooting.

From the Beeb.

[Nicholas Scheuer]

Predict no new ground will be unearthed in this thread.

[Nanoose]

Interesting. No news of this in the USA?

[JimD]

My pet theory is that we are the 'Belltower Generation' (I may have just made that up ) and are, in a sense, all victims of this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman coupled with that most insatiable American value, the desire for publicity.

[Phillip Allen]

My pet theory is that we are the 'Belltower Generation' (I may have just made that up ) and are, in a sense, all victims of this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

I see your point... the thought 'may' have merit

[JimD]

I see your point... the thought 'may' have merit

And I also think a critical tipping point was the infamous 'disgruntled postal worker'. From that point on you no long had to be seen as a deranged matricidal maniac. All that was required to commit such an act was to be pissed off and harbouring a vague sense that the world wasn't a fair place.

[Norman Bernstein]

FYI:

Updated at 3:15 p.m. ET: "Multiple" people, including an undetermined number of police officers, were shot when a gunman opened fire Monday near the campus of Texas A&M University in College Station, police and university officials said.

Two police officers and a civilian were injured, and the gunman was in custody, police said. Fire officials told NBC News that none of the injuries was serious or life-threatening. Few other details were immediately available.

[Phillip Allen]

And I also think a critical tipping point was the infamous 'disgruntled postal worker'. From that point on you no long had to be seen as a deranged matricidal maniac. All that was required to commit such an act was to be pissed off and harbouring a vague sense that the world wasn't a fair place.

is there a reasonable fix?

[Nanoose]

is there a reasonable fix?

Options:
1. give everybody guns
2. give nobody guns
3. give only a few people guns

[Norman Bernstein]

is there a reasonable fix?

No, there isn't... for this type of event. NOTHING we can do, no amount of gun control, can prevent a deranged person from getting his hands on a gun and mowing down multiple people.....

....but that's because we have accepted this as a feature of our culture.

[Tom Montgomery]

*yawn*

A typical day in America.

There was a multiple shooting resulting in several deaths in Louisville two weeks ago. It happened in the west end which is Louisville's black ghetto. It did not make the national news.

[TomF]

*yawn*

A typical day in America.

There was a multiple shooting resulting in several deaths in Louisville two weeks ago. It happened in the west end which is Louisville's black ghetto. It did not make the national news.

Still makes the news here when the shooting's in Toronto or Vancouver.

[JimD]

is there a reasonable fix?

For the USA, I dunno. You all seem to prefer the disease to the cure . But it seems to be getting worse. The justifications soon became trivial and glib. Remember 'I don't like Mondays'? And bowling for Columbine? Who the hell goes bowling to get primed for random mass murder?

[Tom Montgomery]

Still makes the news here when the shooting's in Toronto or Vancouver.

The Louisville multiple shootings occurred in broad daylight and one person was assassinated amidst police officers and TV news critters.

But it still didn't make the national news. America is inured to such inner city shootings.

[TomF]

The Louisville multiple shootings occurred in broad daylight and one person was assassinated amidst police officers and TV news critters.

But it still didn't make the national news. America is inured to such inner city shootings.

A suspected Montreal gang boss was shot last week, and it's still in the news.

I'm probably overstating things though. I suspect that the only shootings that get national media attention here are multiple homicides, killings of prominent crime leaders, or shootings that break out in public places and injure/kill bystanders. Run-of-the-mill shootings of bad guys by bad guys in the dark of the night only make local/regional news.

[Nanoose]

2 dead.

[Plumbtex]

It's all over the news here. Brazos county constable dead, he was serving an eviction notice in College Station a couple of blocks from A&M also an unidentified woman in critical condition. Injured suspect is in custody. Others injured, details still sketchy.

[Plumbtex]

Now hearing three dead - shooter, constable and civilian

[McMike]

No, there isn't... for this type of event. NOTHING we can do, no amount of gun control, can prevent a deranged person from getting his hands on a gun and mowing down multiple people.....

....but that's because we have accepted this as a feature of our culture.

Sorry Norm but if guns were a lot less accessible we would certainly see fewer of these shootings. No, we will never be able to stop them all; that said, it's worth a look at the frequency of these events in America in correlation with the ready and available supply of firearms.

But you can go on using this as a deflection from your political agenda. I think you're using this so you can say, "see . . . I'm not totally liberal". Kind of ridiculous from my point of view, especially because on this matter, you're talking out your rear.

[hanleyclifford]

Fox has the story so far.http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/13...s-apprehended/

[hanleyclifford]

Sorry Norm but if guns were a lot less accessible we would certainly see fewer of these shootings. No, we will never be able to stop them all; that said, it's worth a look at the frequency of these events in America in correlation with the ready and available supply of firearms.

But you can go on using this as a deflection from your political agenda. I think you're using this so you can say, "see . . . I'm not totally liberal". Kind of ridiculous from my point of view, especially because on this matter, you're talking out your rear.

We don't even know the facts yet and you are already running a gun thread and insulting people.

[McMike]

We don't even know the facts yet and you are already running a gun thread and insulting people.

Fact: a gunman killed two people. I think that's a reasonable start when you also consider I was responding to a comment someone else made.

[hanleyclifford]

Here's the CBS so far. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...ag=pop;stories

[WX]

Remove automatic and semi automatic weapons from public hands, it will reduce the number killed at any one time. However we all know it's not going to happen because you don't have any politicians willing to do anything about it. Just a lot of hand wringing.

[hanleyclifford]

Remove automatic and semi automatic weapons from public hands, it will reduce the number killed at any one time. However we all know it's not going to happen because you don't have any politicians willing to do anything about it. Just a lot of hand wringing.

It's not going to happen because the American people don't want it to happen. Another foreign lefty going off half cocked before we even got all the facts.

[skuthorp]

Very tragic for the relations on both sides of this, but as has been said just an ordinary day in America. And as Tom said, some murders seem to have more news value than others.

[WX]

It's not going to happen because the American people don't want it to happen. Another foreign lefty going off half cocked before we even got all the facts.

You may well be right.
I would probably be quite Left Wing compared to you and I am happy with that. I would rather live in a country where gun ownership is strictly controlled than live in the free for all system you seem to have.

[Chris Coose]

It isn't daily yet. It is weekly. Crazy gun slingers will make it daily massacres soon enough.

They used to be weak deranged cowards till they got a horrific voice through the barrel of a firearm. 2nd ammendment gone wild and no coming back.

It'll be daily soon.

[Captain Intrepid]

It's getting harder and harder to summon up outrage over these events. They just happen so often.

[Chris Coose]

It's getting harder and harder to summon up outrage over these events. They just happen so often.

There will be outrage when we come out of our collective coma and they shoot enough innocent people.

Who are innocent people taking these bullets? When it gets to be a neighbor and that day is on it's way.

[Tom Montgomery]

It's not going to happen because the American people don't want it to happen.

Correct.

So sad.

It is no surprise that the rest of the developed world no longer trusts America. We are crazy.

[Phillip Allen]

Fox has the story so far.http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/13...s-apprehended/

I find this interesting... according to the left of the bilge, because the source is fox, the news is fabricated

[hanleyclifford]

I find this interesting... according to the left of the bilge, because the source is fox, the news is fabricated

Don't be cynical, Phillip; I also posted the CBS thread and as you can see ( and the lefties, too) there is little difference.

[Nanoose]

The chart has no data for the automatic machine guns being favored currently.

[hanleyclifford]

The chart has no data for the automatic machine guns being favored currently.

I think they fall under " other guns".

[hanleyclifford]

A few more details here. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...pus/?tag=stack

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

*yawn*

A typical day in America.

There was a multiple shooting resulting in several deaths in Louisville two weeks ago. It happened in the west end which is Louisville's black ghetto. It did not make the national news.

and there you have it.

[hanleyclifford]

C'mon now all you lefties, don't get sour on us. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-215_162-...tionContent.13 See, you have many fellow travelers

[Phillip Allen]

and there you have it.

they don't even bother to put car assisted killings on the national news... it's boring

[The Bigfella]

they don't even bother to put car assisted killings on the national news... it's boring

Yeah... 80 gun deaths each and every day is boring, isn't it Phillip?

[Gerarddm]

Texas.
Guns.
Reap the whirlwind.
( Gun sales will go up in Texas, how much you want to bet? )

[Peerie Maa]

A reporter for the Beeb suggests that this exchange of fire may have occurred when a householder tried to prevent the service of an eviction order by grabbing his gun. The official line is still that they don't know the motive. If the reporter is right about the trigger to this event, it does justify some thought about the gun ownership issue.

An interesting OP ED on the Beeb.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18877454

[McMike]

they don't even bother to put car assisted killings on the national news... it's boring

Phillip, I don't get in my car with the intention to kill someone or myself. In fact, cars are manufactured to make driving as safe as possible.

A firearm IS designed to kill. Whats the rule? Don't point your firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy or kill? Firearmes are instruments of death. Yes, you can shoot all sorts of targets but in the end they are designed to put a person down.

Piss poor argument Phillip, I don't know why you keep trying to use it.

[Chris Coose]

Piss poor argument Phillip, I don't know why you keep trying to use it.

Running out of material as his brothers in arms continue to demonstrate for us that the gun slingers have blown all the 2nd ammendment boundaries.

[Chris Coose]

A peak in 95, but basiclly steady. You think maybe the information age just spreads (sensationalizes) the events better?

The massacres are increasing in frequency. The chart will not reflect this terrific new demonstration of American freedom.

[WX]

I hear there will be a push to have Obama and Romney express an opinion, if not discuss the issue.

[Iceboy]

Please, find one example of someone in the U.S. using an "automatic machine gun" to kill someone in the last ten years.

The chart has no data for the automatic machine guns being favored currently.

[Peerie Maa]

The massacres are increasing in frequency. The chart will not reflect this terrific new demonstration of American freedom.

It would seem that this instance is not a "massacre" in the sense of a perpetrator going out to find a group of people to kill. This is most likely a householder exercising his "right" to use a gun to protect his home.

[skuthorp]

There'll be one along soon enough. I reckon the media will have already made up form pages on the subject. Just fill in the appropriate details, locations and names and 'send'.