Mb 220 d

[Portland]

My understanding is that a '74 MB 220D engine , well looking after , should be extremely reliable , and economical.
Can anyone confirm or dispute that ?.
Regards Rob J.

[oldsub86]

Yes, I have no doubt it should be reliable and economical if it has been treated well. It is 38 years old.

It is also going to be pretty slow off the line. Not sure what the HP on a 220D is off the top of my head but my 76 300D is only 77 HP. It runs well and I have driven it to the lake and back twice so far this summer. About a 350 mile round trip with some of it at 75 mph.
I think I would like a little bit newer model with the turbocharger. Not only does one get more power but better mileage to boot because the turbo makes it more efficient.

Randy

[Portland]

Randy , I should have said , this engine has been professionally marinised , and is used in a boat , kept in immaculate condition.
Regards Rob J.

[Garret]

Well maintained, it should do well. I had one (in a car) that I sold with ~240,000 miles & it burned less than 1/4 quart between 3,000 mile oil changes. However, I'd say it's a lot of engine for anything under 50 ft. or so (sail) - as diesels do not like to be run at low load. Lots of low load running will get any engine burning oil prematurely - usually do to cylinder glazing/ring issues.

What's the boat?

[Portland]

Garret the boat is a beautifully converted Swedish fishing boat . http://www.blocket.se/stockholm/Unde....htm?ca=11&w=3 .
The engine can be seen in the blog http://dackarensvea.blogspot.com.au/ .
I don't think any diesel enjoys low load work , but I was wondering if there was anything these diesels are known for , that should be watched out for.
Regards Rob J.

[Garret]

Oh - she is very pretty. I only brought up the low load point because the 220d is not a small engine by boat standards. As mentioned, my experience is in a car, but it's a good rugged engine & spares should still be available - especially in salvage yards.

[PeterSibley]

Rob, I have a 240D with 410km on it and have often thought it would be an excellent boat engine, she get's 7.5l/100km driven gently and 8.5 if I push hard, about 65hp . A great engine .http://www.jaimekop.com/240D/specs.html

The 220D gives 60hp .http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=61600

[PeterSibley]

Iron fastenings Rob?

[Portland]

I believe they are some of the old fastenings , yes Peter.
Something to find out more about.
Rob J.

[Portland]

The owner tells me that 99% of the old iron fastenings have been replaced , but some couldn't be without pulling out the interior.
Regards Rob J.

[The Bigfella]

The owner tells me that 99% of the old iron fastenings have been replaced , but some couldn't be without pulling out the interior.
Regards Rob J.

Run away.... rapidly.

[Garret]

Run away.... rapidly.

I might not go that far, but their presence should significantly affect the price. Especially ones in hard to get at places. Speaking from experience, even epoxy encapsulating is good for less than 2 years, plus there's the damage the iron does to the wood around it. I have 4 iron bolts left in Neoga's bulwarks & then (I think) they'll all be gone. Good riddance!

[The Bigfella]

Grantala's deck beams were iron-fastened. I had to replace the deck and cabin sides. Iron fastening isn't good in a hot climate. I'm told its OK in cold climates.

[Garret]

Grantala's deck beams were iron-fastened. I had to replace the deck and cabin sides. Iron fastening isn't good in a hot climate. I'm told its OK in cold climates.

No good in cold climates either. They can be replaced if caught soon enough though.

[The Bigfella]

No good in cold climates either. They can be replaced if caught soon enough though.

If you can get to them.... and this guy's admitted he hasn't gotten to some. How many more are there?

[Portland]

I have emailed the photo to Garry , for his thoughts.
He has had plenty of experience at this sort of thing.
Regards Rob J.

[PeterSibley]

Grantala's deck beams were iron-fastened. I had to replace the deck and cabin sides. Iron fastening isn't good in a hot climate. I'm told its OK in cold climates.

I saw an iron fastened oregon double ender at Grafton ,an acquaintance had bought her for a song . I'd have built a new hull and transferred the gear, it was very sad and getting sadder .