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    The NC Maritme Museum has a few plans listed at thier store. They might be of interest to someone here, if you haven't seen them before. At the price, might even make cool framed wallhangers. Check them out here: http://www.ncmaritimemuseum.com/boat-building.html
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    Interesting, thanks.

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    They have plans for a Core Sounder workboat with cedar planking, frames, keel etc. Amazing approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RipSaw View Post
    Looks like they dont come with a table of offsetts which makes them pretty much worthless to build from unless you enjoy scaling and creating your own.
    Nonsense,, spoken like a true novice of sorts,, If a person can read a tape measure and use a 39 dollar skillsaw, then anyone with two legs and two arms can build every single one of the hulls thats sold there using american inches and foot deminisions thats provided on the print out. The boat plans were generated from boats built by seat of your pants builders and managed to float for a lot of years too. If you want a yacht that makes the front cover of WB magazine, then you probably don't want to purchase any of the plans either.

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    The nice thing about living in Beaufort, I can take my tape and bevil and take the numbers right off a few of those boats.
    That is the way to improve the palns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannybb55 View Post
    The nice thing about living in Beaufort, I can take my tape and bevil and take the numbers right off a few of those boats.
    That is the way to improve the palns.
    Danny
    Most of those boats were lofted full size anyway with three to four points. No need to build those boats twice you know..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipSaw View Post
    Looks like they dont come with a table of offsetts which makes them pretty much worthless to build from unless you enjoy scaling and creating your own.
    Offsets? I guess I enjoy scaling since I have built several boats from simple 3-views, and a few race boats using a handful of measures and just goofing the rest, as in, okay that looks like it will work.

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    Next thing we know you will probably want someone to provide you materials and include them in the peanuts pricing. Maybe you haven't heard about all those free plans that managed to be built over the years by novice and amateur homebuilders. Some are still avaliable too and gets their own threads on here from time to time without a single peep. Some folks are never happy, griping about expensive costs of designers, sometimes transfering over to the full set of plans while also looking for cheap plans that provides it all. Maybe these plans are not for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipSaw View Post
    Whatever bro. Build cheap boats with cheap materials to a cheap set of plans. Theres a lot of old popular mechanix designs out there for you to do up in acx ply and drywall screws and liquid nails. My short life is worth too much to me to waste it on endeavors in futility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipSaw View Post
    Whatever bro. Build cheap boats with cheap materials to a cheap set of plans. Theres a lot of old popular mechanix designs out there for you to do up in acx ply and drywall screws and liquid nails. My short life is worth too much to me to waste it on endeavors in futility.

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    Well so far all we have to go on in regards to building boats is the written content that you have provided here. For me I am just a lurker and a luster of all things that floats. I am also not a fancier of boat plans either, being a simple guy with simple ideas. So maybe this explains my opinions here.

    Many look foward to you providing your quality builds. I remain open for conversation when I find the time to waste checking in here sir. Unfortunately in today's economic climate, its becoming increasingly harder for folks to follow their passion of boats and boat building. My ole pop use to say "a half a loaf is better than no loaf at all".

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    Ripsaw

    There are guys on this thread who have the "eye" and experience to build a top-notch boat as they go along, so to speak. Just saying you might want to search some of these guys build threads. It might change your opinion. It might not. But since your a builder I know you will find those threads of interest.

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    Nicely stated Kevin and thanks Tim for this thread post. I really enjoyed looking at the NC Maritime Museum link. Of course, I loved seeing the model of the Chesapeake Crab Skiff. I recently finished a Bolger/Payson "Instant Boat" - Surf. Bolger called it "Crab Skiff" and I can now see the reason why. I like the fact that my first build had a wee-bit of a connection to something real and historic.




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    Yep, just saw your pics of the Surf. Very pretty and got my interest. My list of boats I'd like to build just keeps getting bigger all the time...
    I might have to get a couple of these plans too. And my list will grow again I'm sure.
    I could be doing worse things with my time.
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    I really enjoy the NC Maritime Museum. I live on the other side of the state in Charlotte, but try to get there when I am close...They always have an interesting restoration project going on. Last year they had a Commodore outboard runabout. Cool old boat built in NC.

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    My favorite town, and some of my favorite people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipSaw View Post
    Looks like they dont come with a table of offsetts which makes them pretty much worthless to build from unless you enjoy scaling and creating your own.
    Ripsaw,

    Your post is a real putdown on a whole culture of boatbuilding and use. That is why it got so much push back. I don't design or build boats in that fashion either but do have respect for those who have spent a lifetime on the water providing seafood for the rest of us in boats that were built in just that way. A visit to an old time boat building shop might be enlightening. "Plans" often consist of a few curves gouged in the floor or a piece of plywood drawn with with a few essentials that is sufficient to build a whole series of different boats. Working boats are built in similar fashion in countries all round the world.

    That is the kind of history that the NC Museum preserves. Naval architecture as most of us now know it was never involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lathrop View Post
    A visit to an old time boat building shop might be enlightening.
    Are you calling Mike 'old timey'?
    Mother, should I trust the government. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Are you calling Mike 'old timey'?
    Certainly has old fashioned values.

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    Some of you guys need to wash your mouth out. I work from offsets and plans all the time.


    Old timey,,,Huh,,,,,,talk about old timey, Tom is almost the oldest phart in the forum. I even have a dedicated lofting floor.


    Of course the round bilge boats use tor require a couple more jigs though but the mind is not up for such nonsense now. Peace be with you ,,,,,
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    I have known one or two of the Harker's Island builders who refuse to use lines, molds or plans of any sort. I saw a center console once that had port and starboard halves that didn't match. here is usually a lot of lead somewhere in the hull and the waterline is taken off of the scum line a week after launch.
    Good plans are better.
    Money is tight these days and free plans for a simple boat can cut the cost way back. Plans can cost as much as the planking on a cedar boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Are you calling Mike 'old timey'?
    You betcha! Although antiquated might be a better fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Lathrop View Post
    You betcha! Although antiquated might be a better fit.
    I saw a lot of boats built here without drawings, but there was always plans involved. First and foremost, the plans to go fishing once it was built, followed by dinner plans. I know a lot of men are somewhat put off by plans, as it resides with the possibility that the wife may change them for you at the last minute.

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    In the seventies a guy name MacNeil (sp?) came by the first Apprenticeshop to discuss boat building curricula and teaching it. I believe he went back to introduce it into the Beaufort museum's offerings. He was a good guy and i wish I'd gotten to know him better. That's a fine museum now with a nice waterfront boat shop.

    The boat plans look like the ones you find in Sucher's (now rare) books on flat and vee bottom types from the mid-Atlantic US coast region.
    “So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.”

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