Do you believe any of Romney's promises?

[ljb5]

A few months ago, Romney said anything over 4% unemployment is 'nothing to celebrate.' He didn't exactly promise to bring unemployment down that low, but I think it was implied that he thought he could do it.

Lately, he's backed off and now says he can get unemployment down to about 6%, in about 4 years. That doesn't seem very impressive to me because many economists predict that will happen anyway without Romney in office.

It seems strange to me that he wants four years to accomplish that goal because he's been attacking Obama for not getting it done immediately. But you, know, different standards apply.

Romney hasn't exactly released a tax plan, but he sure has been making a lot of promises. He said he will cut income tax rates for everyone without exploding the deficit. He can't quite say how that will work, but seems to think that closing loopholes will make up the difference. A recent analysis shows that cannot work without raising taxes on pretty much everyone making less than $250,000 per year.

Romney says that analysis is flawed.... but neither Romney nor anyone else on his team can come up with any explanation for how the Romney plan would work. So, as flawed as that analysis is... it's they only one we have to work with.

The new theory they're pushing is that Romney will create such an enormous economic boom that we'll all prosper and not need to raise taxes to pay off the deficit or pay for tax cuts. Amazingly, the guy pushing that theory is Kevin Hasset who wrote a famous book back in 2000 called "DOW 36,000."

http://www.amazon.com/Dow-36-000-Str.../dp/0609806998

Amazon's description of DOW 36,000 says:

Why the Dow is still poised to zoom
* Why the financial establishment is wrong
* Why stocks are actually less risky than bonds

I hope I don't have to explain to anyone that the Dow did not "zoom" to 36,000 twelve years ago.

So, it's a simple question: does anyone believe his promises?

[wardd]

A few months ago, Romney said he said anything over 4% unemployment is 'nothing to celebrate.' He didn't exactly promise to bring unemployment down that low, but I think it was implied that he thought he could do it.

Lately, he's backed off and now says he can get unemployment down to about 6%, in about 4 years. That doesn't seem very impressive to me because many economists predict that will happen anyway without Romney in office.

It seems strange to me that he wants four years to accomplish that goal because he's been attacking Obama for not getting it done immediately. But you, know, different standards apply.

Romney hasn't exactly released a tax plan, but he sure has been making a lot of promises. He said he will cut income tax rates for everyone without exploding the deficit. He can't quite say how that will work, but seems to think that closing loopholes will make up the difference. A recent analysis shows that cannot work without raising taxes on pretty much everyone making less than $250,000 per year.

Romney says that analysis is flawed.... but neither Romney nor anyone else on his team can come up with any explanation for how the Romney plan would work. So, as flawed as that analysis is... it's they only one we have to work with.

The new theory they're pushing is that Romney will create such an enormous economic boom that we'll all prosper and not need to raise taxes to pay off the deficit or pay for tax cuts. Amazingly, the guy pushing that theory is Kevin Hasset who wrote a famous book back in 2000 called "DOW 36,000."

http://www.amazon.com/Dow-36-000-Str.../dp/0609806998

Amazon's description of DOW 36,000 says:



I hope I don't have to explain to anyone that the Dow did not "zoom" to 36,000 twelve years ago.

So, it's a simple question: does anyone believe his promises?

he says he's a mormon

[S.V. Airlie]

About as much as I believe any of them.

[ljb5]

About as much as I believe any of them.

So does that mean you don't believe him, but you're okay voting for him?

[Tom Galyen]

I certainly do not believe anything Obama or any of his minions say. Romneys still under examination as far as I'm concerned.

[S/V Laura Ellen]

I certainly do not believe anything Obama or any of his minions say. Romneys still under examination as far as I'm concerned.

Want some more Kool-aid!

[Rich Jones]

I certainly do not believe anything Obama or any of his minions say. Romneys still under examination as far as I'm concerned.

If elected, Romney will do the bidding of the mega-rich and the Tea Party. God help us if that happens. The mega-rich will prosper and the minions of the Tea Party will realize they've been duped, but it will be too late. Good-bye middle class, hello serfdom.

[wardd]

If elected, Romney will do the bidding of the mega-rich and the Tea Party. God help us if that happens. The mega-rich will prosper and the minions of the Tea Party will realize they've been duped, but it will be too late. Good-bye middle class, hello serfdom.

it can too happen here

[Durnik]

If elected, Romney will do the bidding of the mega-rich and the Tea Party. God help us if that happens. The mega-rich will prosper and the minions of the Tea Party will realize they've been duped, but it will be too late. Good-bye middle class, hello serfdom.

You give them w a y more credit for using the two synapse's they collectively share than I.. Just sayin'..

Want some more Kool-aid!

Whoa!!, Careful there.. A person can o/d on that stuff! (see 'tea partiers') ;-)

Back to the OP.. Romney has made promises? What? Where? When? Lord knows I waste no time listening to the drivel! I do like the unemployment 'promise'.. er, comment. 4%, Hah! Republicans are the ones who like high unemployment.. don't you know, it drives down the cost of labor & keeps people afraid of losing what ever job they have, however horrible that job may be.. That 'promise' is simply another of the many lies.. er, mis-speaks, Republican pols must make to cater to the ignorant & fearful who vote for them.

As for "If Romney is elected, he will...", well all Mitt wants is to get elected.. He has & likely will have no plan beyond that point. We can reasonably guess the Chicken Hawks & 'Trickle Downers' will run the show.. & Cheney already _showed_ us what that looks like!

enjoy
bobby

[ahp]

The Republicans like the "Reserve army of the unemployed" (Karl Marx).

[ljb5]

Romneys still under examination as far as I'm concerned.

So... the fact that Romney is getting advice from a guy who wrote a book called "DOW 36,000" doesn't give you pause?

No economist in the world --- nor even anyone on Romney's team -- can explain how his tax plan is going to work.

And you're going to give him the old, "Let's give him the benefit of the doubt"?

Didn't we try that back in 2000?

If Obama had made any of these promises, you wouldn't believe him... and you'd be right not to believe him. But Romney makes them and you say, 'we'll see.'

That's bias.

[David G]

If elected, Romney will do the bidding of the mega-rich and the Tea Party. God help us if that happens. The mega-rich will prosper and the minions of the Tea Party will realize they've been duped, but it will be too late. Good-bye middle class, hello serfdom.

I wouldn't say For Certain that this is what'd happen. But it's a very plausible - I'd say likely - outcome. Scares the bejeses out of me, actually... looking at it from the standpoint of economic history. Nothing good EVER comes of pushing the pendulum farther toward laissez-faire capitalism than it naturally wants to go. Think of the Great Depression. Think of Weimar Germany. And yet, this is where Mitt and the Republicans seem to want to push it. A recipe for disaster.

[Phillip Allen]

Romney will keep just as many promises as Obama did... does that worry anyone?

[ljb5]

Romney will keep just as many promises as Obama did... does that worry anyone?

So does that make you a response #2 or response #3?

The point I'm making is that it's not just about Romney and his preposterous promises. There's also an issue of how you and others respond to him.

Apparently, it has now become acceptable among Republicans to support a candidate that they don't believe and can't trust. Is that the party you want?

[wardd]

So does that make you a response #2 or response #3?

The point I'm making is that it's not just about Romney and his preposterous promises. There's also an issue of how you and others respond to him.

Apparently, it has now become acceptable among Republicans to support a candidate that they don't believe and can't trust. Is that the party you want?

but, but romney promised a gun in every pot

[Phillip Allen]

So does that make you a response #2 or response #3?

The point I'm making is that it's not just about Romney and his preposterous promises. There's also an issue of how you and others respond to him.

Apparently, it has now become acceptable among Republicans to support a candidate that they don't believe and can't trust. Is that the party you want?

I remember you talking abaout Obama's promises in pretty glowing terms... has that changed now?

[Norman Bernstein]

Romney will keep just as many promises as Obama did... does that worry anyone?

Obama's record on campaign promises is actually pretty good... But you'd have to go to www.politifact.com to know that.

Im guessing you won't bother.

[ljb5]

I remember you talking abaout Obama's promises in pretty glowing terms... has that changed now?

I continue to be reasonably satisfied with Obama's performance.

I never thought he was Superman, nor Santa Claus.

Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive. The stock market has doubled, we've added 3 million jobs since the bottom of the recession, interest rates are low, inflation is controlled, troops have come home from Iraq, health care reform has passed, the military has integrated gays, and Republicans can't stand it!

All in all, I'm thrilled!

I'm sure there's some reason to be dissatisfied with Obama... but nothing comes to mind.

Oh... well, he did to a pretty bad job with Katrina and the economy back in 2007 and that whole 9/11 fiasco and the WMDs thingy and yellowcake in Niger and busting Valarie Plame and nominating Harriet Meirs and authorizing torture....

Except for one thing... can you name it?

[Gerarddm]

Yes, but Philip, Obama has kept many promises. Some were thwarted by Congress, they wouldn't let him shut down Gitmo for example.

[LeeG]

Romney says the nation is blessed with a cornucopia of carbon based energy sources and that developing them was a pathway to prosperity in the past and offers similar promise for the future.

A cornucopia. Sure beats non-renewable.

[ChaseKenyon]

bimp

[Durnik]

Romney says the nation is blessed with a cornucopia of carbon based energy sources and that developing them was a pathway to prosperity in the past and offers similar promise for the future.

A cornucopia. Sure beats non-renewable.

Non-Renewable? Sputter, sputter.. Whatdoyoumean?? Just wait another few hundred million years (+/-).. ;-) All that carbon in circulation will stimulate another Age of Giant Ferns & we'll "Do it again, A-men"..

Wiley says..





“We are like tenant farmers chopping down the fence around our house for fuel when we should be using Nature’s inexhaustible sources of energy--sun, wind and tide. I’d put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don’t have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that.” - Thomas Edison

But those who need to destroy & monopolize wish only to rape the earth.. Destruction gives the weak an all so attractive yet completely false sense of power..

Don't know where I found this line, but it is applicable..

"If you would be great, learn to heal. To destroy is easy"

Seems Barack Obama knows that truth. Seems equally likely Mitt Romney doesn't.

enjoy
bobby

[RodSBT]

Just as I didn't believe any of barry's promises (and proven correct) I don't believe romney's.

[Ian McColgin]

Romney has become even more detached from truthfulness than he was a governor. The mathematical impossibility of his promices is just the objective sign that he and his party really don't care about anything except gaining power. They have no program for the common weal.

[elf]

Oh yes. I'm certain Romney will deliver on his promises. He's made none, has no ideas, knows only how to destroy and will deliver on all of that.

[Mrleft8]

Just as I didn't believe any of barry's promises (and proven correct) I don't believe romney's.

I'm too young to remember any of Goldwater's promises.... What were they?