Contrasting the Sandusky sex scandal w/the RCC sex scandals

[Tom Montgomery]

There are many similarites between the two institutional scandals.

Here is a big difference: The Penn State board of trustees authorized and financed an independent investigation of the matter, the results of which were then made public.
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[Peerie Maa]

Well Trustees do what it says on the tin, they hold the public trust.
I wonder if the Vatican still suffered from this old mindset and had not noticed that the world has moved on.

In Europe it was common practice for the Church to deal with churchmen who committed crimes in Church courts rather than the King’s court. (2% of the population qualified as clerics.) Having been found guilty, even for serious offences such as murder, they were often given lenient punishments. (Over 100 murders were committed by Churchmen between 1154‐1164). Church Courts were limited by canon Law (Church law) as to the punishments they could give out. Punishments of death or mutilation were banned. Punishments that were given by Church courts were; demotion of a cleric, suspension, expulsion from the Church, taking a penance, or excommunication. However although this benefit of the clergy was practised in Europe, traditionally it was rarely used in England where Churchmen were more often than not dealt with in the King’s court. This situation had changed during Stephen’s reign when Stephen argued with the Pope and gave in on the Benefit of the Clergy, allowing the Church to deal with its own wrong doers.

[Paul Pless]

Contrasting the Sandusky sex scandal w/the RCC sex scandals

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Are you gonna be speaking to the effects the scandals have had on recruiting efforts?

[Tom Montgomery]

[David W Pratt]

Considering the juxtaposition of big time football and the Catholic Church, Notre Dame must be a ticking time bomb

[Paul Pless]

Is Notre Dame still considered 'big time'?

[Gerarddm]

Same institutional rot.

[David W Pratt]

I know, I had a little twinge when I wrote 'big time'