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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam F View Post
    So true. My drawknife (and spokeshaves) had better be very sharp or they're a royal pain to use and require a lot of tugging.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got a messy bench, you've got a sharp drawknife (and spokeshave)...where's the pictures?

    This ain't some religion thread where you can just spout, buddy, and everyone's supposed to fall in line.

    Even Donn has a picture of a store-bought bat blank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Even Donn has a picture of a store-bought bat blank.
    Store-bought?

    I went into the forest and harvested a giant Northern White Ash, hauled it home and tossed it in my kiln, and then milled it down by hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donn View Post
    Store-bought?

    I went into the forest and harvested a giant Northern White Ash, hauled it home and tossed it in my kiln, and then milled it down by hand.
    Didya take any pictures?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Donn View Post
    You have very little imagination.

    It will hold anything up to 3 1/2" wide by 9" high. If I clamp it into the orange bench vise in the last photo, it's got a straight run out the front door, which is 16' away.
    Forgive me for asking, but why not just clamp the part you are working on in the vise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Didya take any pictures?
    No...this was BC (Before Cameras), but I commissioned a painting:



    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    Forgive me for asking, but why not just clamp the part you are working on in the vise?
    See post #30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donn View Post

    The photo's above..............
    All hail the jewel in the lotus! I make more mistakes than you ever will (and in the world of mistakes, this one takes a pretty fine magnifying glass) but I couldn't resist.

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    Thanks, Lew. I repaired it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoeyawl View Post
    Forgive me for asking, but why not just clamp the part you are working on in the vise?


    If you want to build a vise, here's some ideas.



    ...a real vise, Donn.



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    But I'm not building a vise, Jim.

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    This being Donn's thread, I hope a snap of Charles aged ten and in pursuit of pocket money, attacking a triffid yesterday may be permitted:

    IMAGINES VEL NON FUERINT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donn View Post
    They stink from the moment the blossom opens, and it has nothing to do with decomposition. The smell is exuded by tiny branched trichomes called ramentae, growing under the ring of petals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam F View Post
    Makes sense - and it fits the other fly pollinated plants I am very familiar with.
    According to my guide... they stink after they start decomposing.... and he's at one just about every day... he's got over 1400 sites to select from to take tour groups to.

    The one I saw in full bloom was a fresh blooming and it DID NOT stink.... and no, I didn't stick my nose inside... but our group of 15 got up close and personal to this (male) bloom and there was no detectable odour.... which might explain why there were no flies on it yet. When they start decomposing, they start to stink and attract the flies which do the pollination. The guide says they last 7 days... but only 2 days if the vine they are on is off the ground.

    Here's a pretty good site on them

    http://unix.cc.wmich.edu/~tbarkman/r...Rafflesia.html

    and wiki isnt bad

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafflesia


    Here's the guide at 3 buds. One, the orange one, is about to bloom. They normally bloom at night. The first leaf makes a noise like a wine cork popping when it goes... the next leaves less so. This guide has only heard it 3 times.
    Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem


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    But I'm not building a vise, Jim.
    'Twould be redundant; he has plenty of vices already.

    "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations,
    for nature cannot be fooled."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got a messy bench, you've got a sharp drawknife (and spokeshave)...where's the pictures?
    ...
    The bench is now cleaned off... I was SO ashamed!
    And the drawknife, though an antique, is nothing special. It looks like all the rest.
    How about a picture of a boat instead?


    No, I didn't build it - the young lady piloting it built it - when she was 15.
    Initial cost (as a rowboat) was $15.00
    Cost to date now that it can sail, is around $30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam F View Post
    The bench is now cleaned off... I was SO ashamed!
    And the drawknife, though an antique, is nothing special. It looks like all the rest.
    How about a picture of a boat instead?


    No, I didn't build it - the young lady piloting it built it - when she was 15.
    Initial cost (as a rowboat) was $15.00
    Cost to date now that it can sail, is around $30.
    Nice, Sam!
    I hope that's your daughter in the boat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Longino View Post
    Nice, Sam!
    I hope that's your daughter in the boat!
    Who else could it be? Yes, that's daughter #3... I was "design consultant" on the scow project.
    The boat's is based (loosely) on a Charleston Bateau (page 13 Building Classic Small Craft by John Gardner).
    There are two different rudders to use - one deep draught and the other a Bolger-style shallow one with an end plate. Both work well.
    It weighs practically nothing and goes like a scalded dog!

    But if you look carefully, you can see the hull flex...

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    The scow ain't long on looks, but it seems right at home on that golf course water hazard.

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    "design consultant"

    I figgered!
    I see an atheist hull, but a catholic mast and sail.
    You're a lucky man to have three daughters, Sir!
    Best wishes!

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    Donn--"The photo's above."

    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    All hail the jewel in the lotus! I make more mistakes than you ever will (and in the world of mistakes, this one takes a pretty fine magnifying glass) but I couldn't resist.
    It's a southren thing, Lew.

    Happen's all the time.

    Oh, wait!

    Donn's not southren?
    Last edited by MiddleAgesMan; 06-24-2012 at 07:16 PM.
    Goat Island Skiff and Simmons Sea Skiff construction photos here:

    http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w...esMan/?start=0

    and here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/37973275@N03/

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    "Design Consultant"

    Is that anything like a Naval Architect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Longino View Post
    "design consultant"

    I figgered!

    You're a lucky man to have three daughters, Sir!
    Best wishes!
    And don't forget, a son too.

    BTW, that photo was taken last weekend and the boat is now 6 1/2 or 7 years old.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Longino View Post
    I see an atheist hull, but a catholic mast and sail.
    I'll say this for it... sailing it in any sort of wind does wonders for your prayer life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donn View Post
    The scow ain't long on looks, but it seems right at home on that golf course water hazard.
    You'd have to be one heck of a golfer to drive one across that lake. Ain't gonna happen.

    But with the freakish East wind we had that weekend the best wind was down at the dam. Luckily she could sail within 3 feet of shore in most places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam F View Post

    But if you look carefully, you can see the hull flex...
    ...a lot.

    Needs a deck and side decks, Mr. D. C.
    Goat Island Skiff and Simmons Sea Skiff construction photos here:

    http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w...esMan/?start=0

    and here:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/37973275@N03/

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    "Design Consultant"

    Is that anything like a Naval Architect?
    It's not quite so involved as that. I went out and measured the distance between wheel wells on my little Nissan Pick Up and that's pretty much the extent of my consultation - that and some advice about fasteners etc.
    The rig however is my own - all flaws included.
    Figuring out where to place the leeboard involved making a sliding clamped bracket to hold it and trying it out in several places until the boat seemed to balance about right. High tech, huh? But I shoulda put it a tad further forward....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianW View Post
    "Design Consultant"

    Is that anything like a Naval Architect?
    Hardly!

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    Flexes...
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    ...a lot.
    You ought to see it with me in it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleAgesMan View Post
    Needs a deck and side decks, Mr. D. C.
    Nope. It needs a new replacement boat with higher sides etc. It's already in the planning stages. Poor kid, she's got a lot of work to do! Then the little scow will go back to being a rowboat (with higher sides too). But given the budget and the free materials it worked out OK. It won't sink you know - we tried.
    It does have fore and aft decks, but they don't show in the photos - being recessed a bit. There's room to stuff flotation under them. Yeah, they ought to have been flush with the gunwale.
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    ..."and a son"...

    God help us...Sam F Jr.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Longino View Post
    ..."
    God help us...
    ;-)

    enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam F View Post
    Who else could it be? Yes, that's daughter #3... I was "design consultant" on the scow project.
    The boat's is based (loosely) on a Charleston Bateau (page 13 Building Classic Small Craft by John Gardner).
    There are two different rudders to use - one deep draught and the other a Bolger-style shallow one with an end plate. Both work well.
    It weighs practically nothing and goes like a scalded dog!

    But if you look carefully, you can see the hull flex...

    Points well, on the chines only? Or is there a fixed keel?
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam F View Post
    You ought to see it with me in it.
    ...
    I never learned from a man who agreed with me.

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    This view may answer a technical question or two:



    I decided to do some re-fastening so some of the aluminum roofing nails in the bottom have been replaced with SS screws. Cost about $6.00.
    Man those costs are spiraling out of sight!!

    Why I don't worry about hull flex:
    The Viking was built at Christen Christensen's Framnes Shipyard in Sandefjord, Norway in 1892-93. It was copied after the ancient Viking ship Gokstad. Excavated in 1880, the Gokstad had been called the most beautiful ship ever built.

    The Viking is approximately 78 feet long, 17 feet wide, and 6.5 feet high from the bottom of the keel to the gunwale. Clinker built, its planks are fastened together with thousands of iron rivets. At sea, the Viking averaged 10 knots and the hull was observed to flex with the waves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donn View Post
    Consequently, it cannot be open or closed.

    Please treat it accordingly; as if you've never seen it, because, you see, it cannot be seen.
    Donn, I am not at all challenging you but please tell me if it should not be 'opened'?

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    The technically advanced R&D continues non-stop around here!

    The latest project is a Chicken Tractor. This one is the Mark I model. Mark II is far superior with larger diameter wheels, an outside door and a more convenient handle - but I gave that one away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed View Post
    Donn, I am not at all challenging you but please tell me if it should not be 'opened'?
    Syed, it doesn't exist, so it cannot be opened.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam F View Post
    The technically advanced R&D continues non-stop around here!

    The latest project is a Chicken Tractor. This one is the Mark I model. Mark II is far superior with larger diameter wheels, an outside door and a more convenient handle - but I gave that one away.
    Sam...Lehman's sells a fancified version of your chicken tractor:


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    The boat and coop appear to have been made off the same mold.

    Cost savings, perhaps?

    Does the coop suffer any objectionable flexing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    The boat and coop appear to have been made off the same mold.
    Both are dirt cheap but the coop was much more expensive. As a matter of design philosophy, they both get the most out of the least materials I could manage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Cost savings, perhaps?
    You bet. And as light as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Does the coop suffer any objectionable flexing?
    The coop is designed to flex. Given that gardens and yards (mine anyway) are lumpy and not even close to level, the flexing seals the bottom of the tractor to avoid escapes and to keep out predators. Like the boat, it's a feature not a bug.
    And on that boat the flex really is a safety factor - you can feel it flex in gusts and it gives time to shift one's weight in response. That's why I have never capsized it - yet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donn View Post
    Lehman's sells a fancified version of your chicken tractor
    Fancy is right - but way too small. Mine is 4' X 10'

    The wheels are way too small - but it does have a nest box. A nest box is coming soon to my version.
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    Sam, did you use your shaving pony at any time during the construction?

    The triangle handles. perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Sam, did you use your shaving pony at any time during the construction?

    The triangle handles. perhaps?
    I don't have such a horse. The handles were made with a tubing cutter and a scroll saw ... or whatever that Bosch electric thingy is called.
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    This has been one of the most pleasant and enjoyable Bilge threads in a long time, IMO, even if it does not exist.

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    Izzat better?
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    That shop needs some drawers. Get rid of some of the clutter.

    Did you ever clamp one of those big, fat carpenter pencils in that shaving pony and give it a good sharpening with that drawknife?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    That shop needs some drawers. Get rid of some of the clutter.
    Drawer sets under the benches are on the to-do list. Until then, it's buckets and milk crates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Did you ever clamp one of those big, fat carpenter pencils in that shaving pony and give it a good sharpening with that drawknife?
    No. I don't use them. When I need a fat pencil mark, I use this:



    1.4mm lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donn View Post

    No. I don't use them. When I need a fat pencil mark, I use this:
    Nice, but how's it feel under your hat-band?

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    Donn, for a small shop, I like yours. But where's the beer fridge?
    I never learned from a man who agreed with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Nice, but how's it feel under your hat-band?
    Dunno. I don't wear a hat, except my gardening Tilley. The pencil lives in my bibs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    But where's the beer fridge?
    In the kitchen...about 50 steps away.

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    I don't think I ever had that many sanding belts at one time.

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    I don't throw them out very often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donn View Post
    I don't throw them out very often.
    That's probably it. I throw mine out all the time.

    Here's the white side of my garage shop. It's evolving nicely, I think.

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    You've got more thinner than I have sanding belts.

    I wish I had that much empty wall space to clutter up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Ledger View Post
    Here's the white side of my garage shop. It's evolving nicely, I think.
    What's the other side look like?
    I never learned from a man who agreed with me.

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