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    Default SF new homes set 3 yr. record

    I said the bottom in LV was 1 1/2 yrs ago. This is a big deal for the economy. Interest Rates are the lowest I have ever seen. My father had a 3 % loan but that was in the 50/60's.

    US builders start more single-family homes

    WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. builders started work on more single-family homes in May and requested the most permits to build homes and apartments in three and a half years. The increase suggests the housing market is slowly recovering even as other areas of the economy have weakened.
    The Commerce Department said Tuesday that builders broke ground on 3.2 percent more single-family homes in May, the third straight monthly increase.
    Overall housing starts fell 4.8 percent last month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 708,000. But that was entirely because of a 21.3 percent plunge in apartment construction, which can be volatile from month to month.
    The government also said April was much better for housing starts than first thought. The government revised the April starts to 744,000 — up from an initially reported 717,000 and the fastest building pace since October 2008.
    And builders are more optimistic about the next 12 months. They requested more permits to build homes, a gauge of future construction. Permits increased to a seasonally adjusted rate of 780,000 — the most since September 2008.
    Even with the gains, the rate of construction and the level of permits requested remain roughly half the pace considered healthy. Yet the increases add to other signs that the home market may finally be starting to recover nearly five years after the housing bubble burst.
    Builders have grown more confident since last fall, in part because more people are expressing an interest in buying a home. Cheaper mortgages and lower home prices in many markets have made home buying more attractive. Many economists believe that housing construction could contribute to overall economic growth this year for the first time since 2005.
    "We continue to expect housing activity to increase gradually in coming months and residential investment to make a positive ... contribution to GDP growth," said Peter Newland of Barclays
    By region of the country, housing starts rose 14.4 percent in the West, but dropped in other parts of the country. The declines primarily reflected the weakness in apartment activity.
    Still, the pace of home sales remains well below healthy levels. Economists say it could be years before the market is fully healed.
    Many people are still having difficulty qualifying for home loans or can't afford larger down payments required by banks. Some would-be home buyers are holding off because they fear that home prices could keep falling.
    The economy is growing only modestly and job creation slowed sharply in April and May. U.S. employers created only 69,000 jobs in May, the fewest in a year.
    Though new homes represent just 20 percent of the overall home market, they have an outsize impact on the economy. Each home built creates an average of three jobs for a year and generates about $90,000 in taxes, according to data from the Home Builders.
    Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.



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    Conservatives have a vested interest in keeping voters' perception of the economic recovery low. It also gives Repub Biz Owners an excuse to not hire anybody, making it easier for their guy to keep their guy "on message" about "how few jobs Obama has created".

    It's all an orchestrated dance.

    Meanwhile, in Freeport IL, former employees of another company owned by Bain were demonstrating against outsourcing, which is where THEIR jobs went. You know who Romney is looking pout for, eh?

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    Default Re: No one started a thread on this? SF new homes set 3 yr. record

    Guess those gay couples who got married are buying houses.

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    Default Starting a thread with "Nobody started a thread on this?" in the title annoys me.

    Really, it does..........
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    My home mortgage loan fell through at the last minute (I'm an 'excellent' risk, but I've got a mark on my record - a contested charge on my VISA, that we don't know about, nor does Wells Fargo.... but they won't remove it, either), so we're scrambling so as not to screw up our new home purchase. Found two others willing to give us a 'bridge loan' moving right into a 15 year/fixed. One at 3.125; the other, if it works out, at.... 2.7%! I can't recall last time I've seen such low rates. And the folks here who are in a position to know tell me housing, and prices, are on the uptick, as well. I'm a bit nervous about the economy - but am old enough to recognize (having lived through it before) that when I find the markets least palatable is when they've generally been the best opportunities.

    And JR.. thanks for the tips/heads up.
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    Default Re: No one started a thread on this? SF new homes set 3 yr. record

    I will point out that ta 3-year record forma a pretty low valley. Good news, though.

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    Default Re: No one started a thread on this? SF new homes set 3 yr. record

    I'd like to know what kind of houses are being built--just out of curiosity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanz View Post
    Really, it does..........
    I am here to please.
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    WOW! I started singing HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!.

    Why the lots were being gobbled up and the tradesman were all rushing to work.

    OMG!.

    The Rescission is finally over!.

    Thank you Great something Father!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
    WOW! I started singing HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!.

    Why the lots were being gobbled up and the tradesman were all rushing to work.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar...sales-20120328

    The pre price increase(2005) real estate market is back. In the years before the big increase the inventory of homes for sale in my neighborhood dried up in the summer as folks moved in coinciding with the school year. Today there are no decent homes available. There are few bank foreclosures left but trashed. Buyers are bidding up the clean /ready to move in homes. It's a different world almost overnight. Any home that goes on the market is sold before the listing comes out. I don't think this will continue past August but it is sure a nice change. I bought another home and closed on it 10 days ago and intended to rent my old one for a few years, but now I may be turning down a big profit by not selling, so reconsidering. I could sell it today for a fair price.
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    Default Re: Starting a thread with "Nobody started a thread on this?" in the title annoys me.

    Quote Originally Posted by pefjr View Post
    I am here to please.
    Aaaaahhhhh...........that's better.



    Good to see things are looking up for you fellas. Don't care about the politics on this. Just nice to see that things might be getting better for you in the States. Been a lot of worry and loss just on this forum over the last few years and I'd like to see all of you doing a little better, at least.
    We don't know how lucky we are....

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    The deals you guys can get on home finance are just astonishing. When we take a loan on a 20 year term say, that means the rate is either floating and might range from say 6 through conceivably say 16 % in that period. If its fixed we have pay a premium of maybe 1.5 or 2 % and usually the maximum term you can fix for is about 5 years whereupon you renegotiate another fixed rate for another 5 years or default to the floating rate. So you might fix for 8% now say and come out in 5 years into 10 or 12%.

    A guy I met in Fiji a few weeks ago , Seattle guy living off his apartment rent, was in the process of refinancing at some low rate that made my mind boggle. That doesn't matter so much. What blew me away was the fact that when 'fixed'.... that meant that the rate was fixed for the entire time of the loan. He could take a loan for 20 years at 4 % say and budget for that over the 20 years of the term.

    If that was available here we'd be in clover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    If that was available here we'd be in clover.
    Why isn't it?
    I never learned from a man who agreed with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Pless View Post
    Why isn't it?
    Small market, to make it worthwhile for large operations to do business here they have to get maximum returns.
    We don't know how lucky we are....

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    Quote Originally Posted by John B View Post
    If that was available here we'd be in clover.
    I guess I'm in clover then............I am set
    to close in 3 weeks with a 30 yr fixed under
    4%
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    I did something a bit unusual, I guess. I was running out of time, with the unfortunate implosion of my mortgage application. In order to stay 'on course', I got a 'bridge loan', guaranteed by a CD, with the intent of getting a regular mortgage after 6 months (rules). 2.6% for one year. I'm aiming for one like JR, at 2.75% for fifteen years. Hope it all works out!
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    I am getting ready to re-fi. My current rate is 4.75%, a loan that looked good just 2 years ago.

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    I doubt this low interest rate lasts long. Also you have to qualify for that rate, and it's based on your credit rating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pefjr View Post
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar...sales-20120328

    The pre price increase(2005) real estate market is back. In the years before the big increase the inventory of homes for sale in my neighborhood dried up in the summer as folks moved in coinciding with the school year. Today there are no decent homes available. There are few bank foreclosures left but trashed. Buyers are bidding up the clean /ready to move in homes. It's a different world almost overnight. Any home that goes on the market is sold before the listing comes out. I don't think this will continue past August but it is sure a nice change. I bought another home and closed on it 10 days ago and intended to rent my old one for a few years, but now I may be turning down a big profit by not selling, so reconsidering. I could sell it today for a fair price.
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    I should like to have egg on my face but i see nothing positive here yet.

    Course we are the last to be in on any trend.

    My sons friend sold his house in BEND Oregon fast..

    A realtor friend told me we are way overstocked here and its a buyers market still

    Seems a lot of bank owned houses are difficult to buy and come with baggage.

    His was ready to go with a clear title.

    I do think there will be a boom sooner or later.

    Problem here is there are not many lots left.

    If a person had guts he might gamble and buy some.

    Do you know what its like in Idaho?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
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    I should like to have egg on my face but i see nothing positive here yet.

    Course we are the last to be in on any trend.

    My sons friend sold his house in BEND Oregon fast..

    A realtor friend told me we are way overstocked here and its a buyers market still

    Seems a lot of bank owned houses are difficult to buy and come with baggage.

    His was ready to go with a clear title.

    I do think there will be a boom sooner or later.

    Problem here is there are not many lots left.

    If a person had guts he might gamble and buy some.

    Do you know what its like in Idaho?
    Idaho is still slow. Las Vegas was the most depressed RE market in the country and bottomed about 1 1/2 yr ago. Idaho follows like Oregon. Priest Lake is hard to tell, it is small and only 500 people in winter, 2000 in summer. Waterfront property did not go down as much %.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanz View Post
    Small market, to make it worthwhile for large operations to do business here they have to get maximum returns.
    Gross profiteering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbys View Post
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    I should like to have egg on my face but i see nothing positive here yet.

    Course we are the last to be in on any trend.
    Here in Seattle, a place with somewhat greater demand, housing prices are on the rebound, I'm told. The key here is available inventory. Only so much land and property is available, and now the shortage of available listings is starting to tell. Of course, every possible lot and plot here is already built on, and there can be no more made within the city itself. Prices are slowly rebounding, and quality properties are selling fast. Prices are still not at their "pre-crash" highs, but the trend is promising.
    Desirable city (meaning if you live in a place with relatively high demand) housing always seems to rebound fastest.

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