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    Default Building a coble model

    I have always had a fondness for cobles from the North East. When forumites introduced me to Freeship on threads in the Design page I was able to make a start.

    I chose this coble from Cullercoats, painted in 1840 as my prototype.
    1. Cullercoats 1840.jpg
    She is a four streak coble, I decided to use the proportions of a 19 to 20 foot Sunderland coble for which drawings are available.
    I lofted the planks, leaving out the keel and stem.
    2 Coble_Linesplan.jpg
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    The timber came from an apple tree that I grubbed out.
    4 timber pile.jpg
    Compass timber.
    5 timberyard.jpg6 timberyard.jpg7 timber crooks.jpg
    When put through the saw.
    8 compass timber.jpg
    Continued:
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    We need a boat yard.
    12 boat shed.jpg
    The crook for the stem and stem knee
    9-apron & stomach piece.jpg10 Ram, apron and stem.jpg
    With the ram
    11 underside of ram.jpg
    Stem knee and ram erected.
    14 backbone set up.jpg
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    We need boat gripes
    15. Boat gripes.jpg
    Plank boards and a breasthook
    16. Plank stuff & Breasthook.jpg
    Garboards
    17. Landstrokes.jpg
    Steamed and hung
    18 .jpg

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    Rising strakes cut and dry fitted
    22 Rising strake dry fitted.jpg
    Rising strakes hung, starting to fit floors
    23 fitting floors.jpg
    Floor crooks
    24 floor crooks.jpg25 forward floor.jpg
    floors in
    26 floors in.jpg
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    continuing with the third strake
    27 third strakes.jpg28 third strakes.jpg
    Ready for shear strakes
    29 thrd strakes.jpg
    Steamed to shape.
    31 Hanging shear.jpg
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    continuing with the stern
    32 Building stern.jpg
    ready to fit
    33 stern framed.jpg
    and fitted
    34 stern closed.jpg
    Gunwales on and turned for the skorvels
    35 Outside done.jpg
    Stern view
    37 .jpg
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    next comes the breasthook and tack timbers
    38 Breast hook crook.jpg
    fitted
    39 Breasthook & Tack timbers.jpg
    framing out complete
    40 Framed out.jpg
    ready for the risers and thwarts
    41 Thwarts in.jpg
    some of the standing knee crooks
    42 crooks for knees.jpg


    to be continued
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    rudder shaped
    44 ready to outfit.jpg
    floorboards being fitted
    49 floorboards.jpg
    and copsea oars made
    45 copsea oars.jpg
    Iron work made and fitted
    46 Rudder hung.jpg
    the tiller is the long summer tiller, made from a curved branch.
    Tools put away, work space cleaned and coble, mast and all given a coat of oil.
    50 oiled finish.jpg
    Next task, building a stand for her.
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    Thank you Nick. A favorite holiday saw us in Robin Hood Bay and surrounding towns where cobbles were much in evidence. A lovely trip, that one, and great to see these boats take the ground and come off again with the rising tide. They make perfect sense in that place. Very clear images in my memory.

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    Super cool!! Nick, that's just bloody marvellous!

    Soooo.... Will you be building the big one next?
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    Bravo. You are truly a model boat-builder.
    We don't know how lucky we are....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew Barrett View Post
    Thank you Nick. A favorite holiday saw us in Robin Hood Bay and surrounding towns where cobbles were much in evidence. A lovely trip, that one, and great to see these boats take the ground and come off again with the rising tide. They make perfect sense in that place. Very clear images in my memory.
    A lovely coast, did you see the boats at Flamborough?

    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs View Post
    Super cool!! Nick, that's just bloody marvellous!

    Soooo.... Will you be building the big one next?
    You just cannot get the wood you know
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    Extremely totally impressive!

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    Great job! Beautiful!

    Sure you can get the wood! Just find a bigger apple tree!

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    I am amazed. Enthralled. Charmed.

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    A noble coble!
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    Nick, I don't recall visiting Flamborough, which isn't exactly the same as saying I wasn't there. We did spend a lot of time in Yorkshire, and enjoyed it thoroughly.

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    A lovely job Nick, great character and i love those sweeps. A much heavier boat than Peerie size for size. Im surprised there is not much written about the coble,one of the longest serving beach boats in Britain. Sometimes this kind of boatbuilding is hard to beat!

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    What a fantastic use for a knocked down apple tree and an even finer display of ancient boatbuilding skills/methods, in miniature.Very interesting,very impressive!

    One question,if I may Nick;what exactly is "compass timber"? First time I think I've ever seen that term .



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    Nice model, how long did it take you? How long did you season the wood? What glue?

    I hope my model turns out that good.

    I know of a source for approx 22'' x 1.5'' larch boards - so no excuses for the fullsized build!

    IIRC Compass timber is wood with curved grain for knees, breasthooks etc.

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    Fantabulous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaraborgcraft View Post
    A lovely job Nick, great character and i love those sweeps. A much heavier boat than Peerie size for size. Im surprised there is not much written about the coble,one of the longest serving beach boats in Britain. Sometimes this kind of boatbuilding is hard to beat!
    There was an excellent piece in the Model Shipwright mag, back in 1979, practically a definitive piece. They also have chapters in Edgar March Inshore Craft, McKee's Working Craft, and the Chatham Directory. The Model Shipwright nails it for me though. One difficulty is that they were never built from drawings, so the only plans available are from boats that were measured by historians or are in museum collections.

    Quote Originally Posted by robert666 View Post
    Nice model, how long did it take you? How long did you season the wood? What glue?

    I hope my model turns out that good.

    I know of a source for approx 22'' x 1.5'' larch boards - so no excuses for the fullsized build!

    IIRC Compass timber is wood with curved grain for knees, breasthooks etc.

    Robert.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Cleek View Post
    Great job! Beautiful!

    Sure you can get the wood! Just find a bigger apple tree!
    Boats of that era were built out of quarter sawn oak. The Cullercoats prototype garboards would have been from a board over 2 foot wide with belly in the log. Anyway, much though I would love to (using ply for a smaller boat) I have too many boats as it is.

    The tree seasoned for a couple of years, hence the spalting. Unfortunately the butt was not as big as I needed so I had to use oak for the shear strakes.
    I used picture framers cyanoacrylate mitre glue, it gives enough time for adjustment, before using the activator to set it up.

    The tool kit was:
    • Band saw
    • Belt sander for flattening the face that ran against the saw fence.
    • Stanley block plane.
    • Engineers calipers
    • Really sharp pocket knife (Japanese Higonokami)
    • a light chisel made from an old stainless steel one piece table knife (made for cutting clench nails between the lands of clinker planking but light enough to the hand for model making)
    • ​Jewelers piercing saw.
    • medium and very fine glass paper.

    I lofted full size, then printed out to the scale of 1/16th or 3/4 " to a foot. Build time was about 5 days and ten evenings, not counting the lofting.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Lovely stuff. I am Yorkshire born and remember these from when I wor a lad. Not much hope of seeing one round here so this was nice.

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    Cracker.

    How did you get permission from the management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.I. Stazzer-Newt View Post
    Cracker.

    How did you get permission from the management.
    Thanks,
    I only needed leave for 1 foot 3 inches, a lot easier than 18 foot worth of permission, and the apple looks lovely with the oiled finish

    I now have to make an equally attractive stand. I have it planned, just have to see if I have the skill.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Chip or Dale? I thought they took Donald Duck's toy Sailboat, not Coble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Cleek View Post
    Great job! Beautiful!

    Sure you can get the wood! Just find a bigger apple tree!
    Beat me to it !

    Very ,very neat Nick ...well done !
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    Beautiful job and exquisite workmanship.

    Could you tell us about the long rudder also the oars ?
    How about the rig etc. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Gibbs View Post
    Will you be building the big one next?
    Quote Originally Posted by Peerie Maa View Post
    You just cannot get the wood you know
    Yeah, come on, Dunc -- wood doesn't just grow on trees, you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Dillon View Post
    Beautiful job and exquisite workmanship.

    Could you tell us about the long rudder also the oars ?
    How about the rig etc. ?

    JD
    The long rudder doubles as a dagger board. Because the boats work off of a flat sand beach they have a fine bow and flat stern. They always leave and return to the beach with the bow facing the waves, so they have a deep forefoot to hold them head to sea when backing in. This requires the deep rudder reaching forward under the boat to provide lateral area in the right place to balance the rig.
    The rig is a single dipping lug, with the mast raked aft it sets in the middle of the boat. Some cobles carried a shorter winter mast which they set as a bowsprit with a jib. The really big cobles also rigged a mizzen mast. See Winslow Homer's art for cobles sailing.
    The oars are peculiar to the cobles of the NW, including the Scottish salmon cobles, and to the Portland lerrets. I dont know much more about them, but you can see the similarities with Scandinavian oars.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    I've often wondered if model building would satisfy some of the desire of boatbuilding, as well as the lust of possession without all the expense/time/effort/ space/ upkeep of a full-size build. Not sure if this did that for you, but it sure is pretty. Great work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by potomac View Post
    I've often wondered if model building would satisfy some of the desire of boatbuilding, as well as the lust of possession without all the expense/time/effort/ space/ upkeep of a full-size build. Not sure if this did that for you, but it sure is pretty. Great work.
    I do have models at 1 foot to the foot scale as well , but none of them are cobles.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

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    Wonderful work! The apple wood is a nice touch. I'm so glad to see a resurgence of interest in the coble,
    a truly marvelous craft in my biased opinion.

    Coble lovers might be interested in my attempt at coble building. My model is based on "Eliza", a Flamborough coble
    features in a number of books on british working craft. I built the model in preparation for a full size build (well
    80%, 19 ft reduced from 24 ft).




    Notice that the rudder is not traditional. It is a kick-up rudder designed to work in the rather shallow waters were I
    sail. It remains to be seen how it will affect the balance. My wood is much less interesting: bass wood from the
    local craft store. I'll probably use oak and douglas fir for the full sized version.

    More info and pictures at:
    http://www.cs.rit.edu/~atk/HOME/ Click on "Boats" then on "Coble".

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