Weigh in on your education

[bobbys]

8 years of sitting in the back of the class with the dumb kids in Parochial skool.

2 years of Public high skool then 2 years shop /work study with the sweathogs.

However i gotts a diploma .

Nobody ever asked me for it since.........

And believe me its in my back pocket ready to whip out and do a little bragging!

[Gerarddm]

Public schools K-12
RISD, BFA in ID.
Seattle Central Community College, AAS in Marine Carpentry.

[Ian McColgin]

Lew says I paid attention in class. Well . . .

While at Taft our chaplain administered one of his pet tests on whether a boy was suitable for philosophy. It was a sort of response essay to Aquinas's proofs and there was not a "right" answer, but rather how the question was engaged. He told me I was the most destined to philosophy of any student he'd ever had, a finding I rejected as I was going to be a marine biologist. Stony Brook had wonderful people in marine and biological sciences. Added in I discovered my last couple years at Taft and more at Stony Brook that I had more of a head for theoretical physics than my previously weak showing in math might suggest.

So off to Stony Brook where I hugely enjoyed my sciences, even organic chem, but where I was finding it increasingly difficult to address science. I had nothing to do with the Philosophy department - bunch of OLA twinks - but was pursuing lines that had begun at Taft when I read Evelyn Underhill. And having killed God down at Emery, TJJ Alteizer arrived to evangelize Blake. I helped invent the "Experimental College" and took a half year producing a pretentious work on experimental spiritual philosophizing that was utterly rejected (so I had to take an extra term to graduate) but in the process discovered that I was really driven to do philosophy and that the department had hired a number of folk trained in phenomenology and other Continental strains that attracted my eye. And my German was good enough to read Hegel and get the jokes.

In the process of that protracted identity crisis I got some very bad grades and should have at least lost my scholarships and probably been bounced out for the good of Vietnam. But they'd computerized the records which put them about 18 months behind in reporting. By the time I was threatened, I was in fact a real star in the philosophy department, got a mass of faculty letters, and got to stay.

I could not get the financial support to go straight at a PhD in a department I liked except for Duquesne, which seemed rather far from salt water, so went for the MA at Andover Newton as a non-redundant MA (keeping PhD options open for later) and to study with Roger Hazleton. Unanticipated was field work where - being clearly unsuitable to be some church's "youth minister" - I got a job as an "intercampus chaplain" which was really a job organizing peace movement marches. Which is how I discovered that my life passion for justice could become a profession that used, really capitalized, on everything about philosophy that matters to me.

On top of that, I had the three most brilliant profs as my thesis readers. After an hour of terrifyingly intense questions, something I said really caught their interest and they began to question each other. We went through lunch, had dinner together, and finally ended about midnight. My thesis got an honors not so much on its superficial merit as for its ability to provoke some really brilliant lines of thought in those three.

Dang, I was lucky.

[purri]

Public education all the way but most of my latter years with post grad bits has been RPL (recognition of prior learning). I'm comforted with a comment of a very smart woman (Marie Bashir: worth a google) at a longish official lunch, viz: "you're pretty smart".

I was and remain somewhat flattered.

[TomF]

K-12 in publicly funded schools in 3 different cities, bachelor's in PoliSci from U of Victoria (public), while also studying cello with the head of Strings, and voice with the head of Opera at the Victoria Conservatory of Music (private). 2 years at the Vancouver School of Theology (private) while also studying with the head of the Opera department at the U of British Columbia (public). Master's and all but dissertation of a PhD in International Relations from U of Alberta (public).

Most of what I've learned though, has come from a career as a policy wonk (public ) and from Herself (private ).

[bobbys]

8 years of sitting in the back of the class with the dumb kids in Parochial skool.

2 years of Public high skool then 2 years shop /work study with the sweathogs.

However i gotts a diploma .

Nobody ever asked me for it since.........

And believe me its in my back pocket ready to whip out and do a little bragging!

.

I stayed on topic and thought i would win but so far Tom has said nothing.

Bet the prize is going to his buddies...

[Shang]

Off and on I've talked about this before, but in a nutshell:

B.A. University of Missouri, Applied Art, and Education.
M.A. Syracuse University, Instructional Communications (graphic design).
Ph.D. Syracuse University, Instructional Technology (motion picture production).
M.F.A. Syracuse University, Illustration.

During that time my wife earned an M.A. in Special Education.
An M.A. in School Administration.
A Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology.

[Draketail]

K-12, various public schools in New York, Maryland, Indiana, Maryland, and finally, North Carolina
B.S., Civil Engineering, Virginia Military Institute
M.E., Civil Engineering, University of Virginia
Ph,D, Civil Engeering, Virginia Tech

[Paul Pless]

Off and on I've talked about this before, but in a nutshell:

B.A. University of Missouri, Applied Art, and Education.
M.A. Syracuse University, Instructional Communications (graphic design).
Ph.D. Syracuse University, Instructional Technology (motion picture production).
M.F.A. Syracuse University, Illustration.

During that time my wife earned an M.A. in Special Education.
An M.A. in School Administration.
A Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology.

Home schooled until university then?

[PhaseLockedLoop]

K-11 public schools in Sioux City, IA, Springfield,MO and Needham, MA (all public)
Didn't graduate 12 at Needham until I'd finished freshmen English at Tufts (private, I guess)
Two years at U of Mass Amherst (public)
One year at Wayne State in Detroit (public)

note: not happy about higher (or even lower) education. Look at where it's got us. But that's another thread.

[David G]

Healthy poets? I thought they were required to have consumption!

Clever... but could have been better in iambic pantameter, you sly old doggerel you.

[Draketail]

Somebody is well versed in irony.....

[tigerregis]

Phase locked, that suggestion is too good to let go. Care to open it yourself. Probably requires some consideration of focus, rather than a thread where the blessed can p&m about Sister Mary Elephant.

[Shang]

Home schooled until university then?

Overland Park Grade School
Shawnee-Mission High School

Additionally, although we didn't think of it as "home schooling," I learned a lot about graphic design in my father's studio, and about painting in my mother's.

[Paul Girouard]

Catholic kindergarden, DNF Dad died in March of that year , pretty sure I didn't finish the year out. It is possible I did and just don't remember. Not sure if my sisters or brother would remember either whether I finished or not.

1 -12 public education in R.I. , pretty sure it wasn't the best or the worst in the nation at the time.

Aviation "A" schools , with the USN. Basic electronics , and Aviation Electrician schools in Memphis/ Millington, Tenn. More specific schooling on EA-6B type aircraft at NAS Whidbey Island , Wa.

A couple of leadership type USN , short two or three week training classes.

Lots of OJT , in the construction world , school of hard knocks / lessons type training!!

Life , the ultimate class, on going!!

[tigerregis]

Public elem 9 years, 3 schools, wonderful teachers, my last was the best.
HS, public, 3/4/5 years, worst time of my life. Waste of time.
TGI SAT, public.
College, Priv, Ithaca, finest curriculum after Harvard, flunked out, hadn't recovered from HS
Bronx Community,public, did their best.
Sir Geo. Williams, Mtl. Good until they threw the computers, out the window, public
Waterloo Lutheran,P&P, fired all the radical profs, BA/English, some great, some useless profs.
Geo. Brown CC, meat cutting. A1.
NCR, Systems Analysis, not appreciated at the time.
CAAP,Can ad prof course, f..g brilliant.
ag,pharma,petroleum,courses, enlightening
Hard Knocks, the same as everyone else.
Listening to knowledgeable people,specially OLD Timers, BEST and Free
Stamford-Binet and SAT's gave me opportunities I did not earn, that's why TGI above.

[S.V. Airlie]

public to 6th grade. My parents realized that I was only able to read lips. Teachers never did. My mother went ballistic.
Local HS okay. Not great! Private schools after all of this.

[MiddleAgesMan]

Grades 1-11 (with the exceptions of 9 and 10) were in parochial schools, 1-8 being a single room school with all eight grades sitting together. It was an ideal setting for a bright and curious student; I never tired of my lessons because I could always "monitor" the upper grades. I graduated from grammar school with full honors, being the only one in 8th grade that year.

Two years of public school followed by another year (11th grade) in a religious academy, where I spent way too much time challenging the religious teachings of the school's pastor, was all I could take. I went back home and hit the road shortly thereafter, hitching my way to Florida where I went to work in the hotel industry. A death in the family brought me back home but after about 9 months I went back to the same Florida hotel to make my fortune.

Wanderlust led me to New Orleans, then to the west coast to San Diego, up the coast to Santa Barbara for a brief job, then on to San Fran, then back across the country mostly by freight train with a few stints of hitchhiking. A few months after returning home I signed up and joined the Navy. Even though I was a high school drop-out the recruiter said I scored higher on their tests than most college grads.

Sonar A school, then some specialized training in the SOSUS passive sonar system and then I was off to Eleuthera. From there it was Keflavik, and then an early discharge (3 months early) to save the government some money.

I used some of my GI bill benefits to attend two years of college then decided it was time to become a responsible member of society and start supporting the family I had married.

I've taken a few technical school programs--Carpentry, Precision Machining, Drafting, Autocad-- since, all of which were more valuable to me than anything I learned previously.

[Hank Rearden]

Private schools grades k thru 9
Public school grades 10-12
State university - 2 undergrad degrees
Private university - 1 graduate degree

[brad9798]

@Fred Z-

YES- SLU!

[botebum]

@Fred Z-

YES- SLU!

SLU- Shouting Loudly Universally?


Doug

[Mad Scientist]

Public schools all the way, then a bit of University, which in Canada is partly subsidized by taxpayers. I flunked, of course!

Then I joined the Navy, and my real education began!

BTW, Chase Kenyon ran a poll about educational levels a while back. I don't know if he ever finished his analysis.

Tom

[Lew Barrett]

Life , the ultimate class, on going!!

Truth there.

[pefjr]

Mine don't weigh much, I have been told several times by bilge experts on the matter. Inferior it seems. South of the Mason -Dixon line, don't count for much they said. Oh well, too late at my age to go all the up North just for an weighty education.

[tigerregis]

Well Peffy, I can't tell if you're Jack Lalanne or Charles Atlas, but you sure seem like a Lightweight.

[Ian McColgin]

It's just his southern inferiority complex/chip on his shoulder. So many southerners have it, some rightly and some not. Don't know the cause but surely it's not from being nursed by southern womanhood . . .

[pefjr]

It's just his southern inferiority complex/chip on his shoulder. So many southerners have it, some rightly and some not. Don't know the cause but surely it's not from being nursed by southern womanhood . . .

Don't mention the Civil War, Johnw says I really have an inferior chip and super sensitive too.

[pefjr]

Well Peffy, I can't tell if you're Jack Lalanne or Charles Atlas, but you sure seem like a Lightweight.

Lightweight too? That 's not what they called me back in 68, when I took first place in the Cobb County Watermelon seed spitting contest. You know Tiger, watermelons with seeds are hard to find today. I doubt my record will ever be broken.

[bobbys]

Mine don't weigh much, I have been told several times by bilge experts on the matter. Inferior it seems. South of the Mason -Dixon line, don't count for much they said. Oh well, too late at my age to go all the up North just for an weighty education.

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My Hammer and Hot tar Mop put 3 people through kollege to get all smart like.

I had dozens of Kollege edemiucated peeps work for me.

What i never figured out though was all the guys that bragged to me when i was in shop class about going to kollege became carpenters and UPS drivers 20 years later?

[johnw]

Don't mention the Civil War, Johnw says I really have an inferior chip and super sensitive too.

Now you make it sound like you're a robot. (If you are, perhaps we can all chip in and buy you a superior chip, you know, the ones made in California instead of Taiwan.) O, and congratulations on your Super Sensitive powers.

[brad9798]

Here's an idea ... stop stalking my posts ... and stop acting like an idiot with my posts!

Your time would be better spend worrying about yourself, sire.

[tigerregis]

Peffy, you find a watermelon with seeds and I'll buy it and then we can sit on your porch and contest the tightest lips and biggest lungs. I'll bring the libations of your choice.

[johnw]

Here's an idea ... stop stalking my posts ... and stop acting like an idiot with my posts!

Your time would be better spend worrying about yourself, sire.

Who on earth are you talking to?

[B_B]

Who on earth are you talking to?

Post 78.
I thought it was funny.

[tigerregis]

OK, I'll own up to it. I started a doctoral on female genitalia and did get respectable comments from advisors. Bad news is, I flunked the orals.

[pefjr]

Bad news is, I flunked the orals.

Good news is 'practice makes perfect'.

[tigerregis]

Yeah, like Beethoven or Satchmo.

[Y Bar Ranch]

Weigh in on your formal education

public (MD, RI, & VA)
public (VA)
public (VA)
state (VA)
state (PA)

[brad9798]

Doug ... johnw ... if you paid just a BIT of attention, you would CLEARLY realize of what I speak ... too bad you are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo far behind.Q

[brad9798]

Perhaps, JohnW- you have missed all the drama and BEEE-SSSSSS about botebum ... that's all!

HOPE all is well with you.

B

[S.V. Airlie]

All I can say is "College in itself is not an education but rather a means for acquiring one." nuff said

[leikec]

Does Barber college count?

Jeff C

[johnw]

Perhaps, JohnW- you have missed all the drama and BEEE-SSSSSS about botebum ... that's all!

HOPE all is well with you.

B

I feel fortunate to have missed the drama, and would prefer to continue to do so.

[Shang]

Hey, who cares?
Some of us stayed in school a long time,
others learned with tools in our hands,
both were difficult.
Some did both.

[botebum]

I feel fortunate to have missed the drama, and would prefer to continue to do so.

It's not like real drama.
Ya' see, brad yells in his posts. I draw attention to it and brad yells louder about the fact that he's not yelling (which he is).
Then brad pitches a fit worthy of an eleven year old girl and says things that he thinks might hurt me (they don't).
Then I usually go to bed knowing that brad is halfway across this country, purple with anger at a guy he doesn't even know.

See? Not like real drama. Just brad's version of it.


Doug

[johnw]

It's not like real drama.
Ya' see, brad yells in his posts. I draw attention to it and brad yells louder about the fact that he's not yelling (which he is).
Then brad pitches a fit worthy of an eleven year old girl and says things that he thinks might hurt me (they don't).
Then I usually go to bed knowing that brad is halfway across this country, purple with anger at a guy he doesn't even know.

See? Not like real drama. Just brad's version of it.


Doug

And this is what you earthlings call..."fun?"

[botebum]

And this is what you earthlings call..."fun?"

Well ... Yeah!

Doug

[Keith Wilson]

And this is what you earthlings call..."fun?"

[Andrew Craig-Bennett]

Over here - "Public Schools" are actually Private - i.e. fee paying.

All the schools I ever attended were not fussy about who they let in - and none asked me for money.

Snap.

Except INSEAD; my former employers paid for that.

[C. Ross]

Andrew, when did you attend INSEAD?