Does anyone know anything about a Monk designed yacht TACOMA

[BETTY-B]

TACOMA

A friend of mine sent me this pic taken somewhere down around Sausalito the other day. From a distance it looked like a much earlier design. I was surprised to see that it was a Monk built in 1947 at Harstine Island, Wa. It looks to be one of Monk's "troller cruisers". I'm getting that from the Ed Monk book. And I dont understand why it isnt just a bridgedeck cruiser.

Searching for a boat that is named after a place can be pretty tough sometimes. Hopefully someone here knows it. Anyways, I'd love to see more pics. In particular, I'd really like to see interior shots that show the layout. Monk was just so good at it. Any other pics of the lower aft cabin in bridgedecks around the forty foot mark would be nice to see as well.

I'm starting the slow process of desiging and ultimately bringing BETTY-B's interior back to a traditional layout. The over stupified seventies or eighties redo has way overstayed it's welcome!

The pic in Sausalito the other day:



And another one from our host in the Register of Wooden Boats:

[ron ll]

Cute boat, never seen it. I tried to search for it but probably did the same things you did. Did you know if you search long enough for Monk boats you start getting boats designed by actual Tibetan monks? Not sure where they floated them, but Google finds them.

[BETTY-B]

Monk and Tacoma?!?! Right.

Another time I was trying to find out what happened to the tug with the name "SOUND". Guess where "tug" and "sound" get ya? Nowheresville is right!

[chas]

We have a 1948 Monk. It doesn't look much like that. Must be the vertical lines that throw me off. / Jim

[Lew Barrett]

Does not look like a Monk yacht. Maybe a conversion? Monk rarely drew yachts with other than transom sterns, so if his, and it could be (the house proportions are right, apart from the fact that the upright house harks to an earlier era than he usually drew), it's either a custom design or a conversion.

A lot of boats get Monk attributions if the designer is unknown or the builder is known as one who crafted a lot of Monk designs but the architect is otherwise unknown. Could be, not saying "no" definitively, but she doesn't have a few of the usual Mink trademarks, and she looks a bit "different" in some details. From here, the lines and details do not suggest any "purely" Monk design I am familiar with though the hull has some of his work boat features.

[TR]

Tacoma appears to be an almost identical sister to the (documented) 36' double-ended Monk design Holiday. Built in 1946 at the Chambers yard on Lake Union, she has been called "one of the first troller-cruisers" The Monk book mentions her layout as "head and berths were situated forward, with the wheelhouse above the engine room amidships, and the dinette and galley aft."

[BETTY-B]

Tacoma appears to be an almost identical sister to the (documented) 36' double-ended Monk design Holiday. Built in 1946 at the Chambers yard on Lake Union, she has been called "one of the first troller-cruisers" The Monk book mentions her layout as "head and berths were situated forward, with the wheelhouse above the engine room amidships, and the dinette and galley aft."

I saw that. The Register shows TACOMA to be 40' however. Here's HOLIDAY from the Monk book:

[Todd D]

There is a 1947 wooden boat named Tacoma with a San Francisco Hail in the documentation data base. The boat is listes as 37' with a beam of 11.2 feet. The builder is listed as Martin Goetsch. The owner lives in Richmond, CA. The owner's name and address are in the doumentaion data base. The documentation number is 254339.

[BETTY-B]

Yes, that's the same one mentioned above in The Register. HOLIDAY could very well be nearly forty feet as well. The length of a documented vessel by the Coast Guard is a little ambiguous. If I remember correctly, the measurement is from the rudder stock to the top of the stem. Or something similar to that. Hmm...I'm actually having a hard time finding the exact particulars. I know it's Homeland Security who does the documentation now. I cant find the details of the old way of documented length. Can anyone else remember the specifics? Or have any insight into why they measured it that way?

An example is BETTY-B. She is almost 41' LOA. Yet her documented length is 36.9'.

[ron ll]

An example is BETTY-B. She is almost 41' LOA. Yet her documented length is 36.9'.

Yup. Snoose is documented at 32', measures 37' with a tape.

[johngsandusky]

Same same. Wandering Star is 39'6" on deck, documented at 35'3".

[Todd D]

In contrast Seaquestor is 36' LOA and 36' documented length.

[Mad Scientist]

In contrast Seaquestor is 36' LOA and 36' documented length.

Obviously, there was an error in the measuring process!

Tom