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  1. #631
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    Hi Mal, I think the overall height is an inch less on Nanni even with the shallow sump on Beta, but I will double check before purchase. Maybe the height from mounts to top is different. I wil check. I have made a wooden dummy engine. One Yanmar and one Beta, but both require some raising of cockpit sole which I will turn into a bridge deck.

  2. #632

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    Hi Mal,
    Always enjoy seeing the updates on your thread. Got a question for you with regard to shop clearance. How tall is it from the floor of the shop, to the top of the deckhouse? What headroom do you have in your shop?

    Thanks,
    Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtowner8820 View Post
    Hi Mal,
    Always enjoy seeing the updates on your thread. Got a question for you with regard to shop clearance. How tall is it from the floor of the shop, to the top of the deckhouse? What headroom do you have in your shop?

    Thanks,
    Ryan
    Hi Ryan. The door at the front is 3m wide with 3.3m clearance at the top. The shed itself is huge, over 4m at the sides and 4.5m at the very peak. I will measure floor to cabin top for you, but by my calculations there is 75mm or 3inches clearance at each of the sides when I need to get the boat out. BUT I will check before I put the rubbings strakes on!


    Mal
    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    That is a beautifully shaped rudder!
    I love the smell of fresh cut plywood in the morning.

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    Hi Mal, she's coming along beautifully!
    '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
    Grateful Dead

  6. #636

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    Thanks Mal,

    I'll look forward to that measurement, and thanks for sharing about the shop. I have a barn with an inside ceiling height of 10 feet...so sort of has me curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Hi Ryan. The door at the front is 3m wide with 3.3m clearance at the top. The shed itself is huge, over 4m at the sides and 4.5m at the very peak. I will measure floor to cabin top for you, but by my calculations there is 75mm or 3inches clearance at each of the sides when I need to get the boat out. BUT I will check before I put the rubbings strakes on!


    Mal
    Coulda built a bigger one

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    Quote Originally Posted by donald branscom View Post
    That is a beautifully shaped rudder!
    Thank you, it was the first thing I made off the plans and the size of it gave me my first near heart attack/what have I done moment.


    Quote Originally Posted by PeterSibley View Post
    Hi Mal, she's coming along beautifully!
    Thanks Peter. Good to see you back in the shed with a positive result from your treatment.

    Quote Originally Posted by rtowner8820 View Post
    Thanks Mal, I'll look forward to that measurement, and thanks for sharing about the shop. I have a barn with an inside ceiling height of 10 feet...so sort of has me curious...
    I went out with a string line and took a measurement. Roughly 2770mm or 9ft 2 or 3 inches to the floor, with 70mm or just under three inches of space between the bottom of the keel I made (which I think is a little bit deeper) and the slab floor.

    So, looking forward to another Sundowner build starting soon maybe ????

    Quote Originally Posted by andrewpatrol View Post
    Coulda built a bigger one
    Andrew, I would like to go sailing at some stage! At the rate this one is progressing my son will have to finish it..........



    Mal
    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    I have bought the study plan, and find myself looking through the building steps document frequently. And then add your blog and I'm pretty much addicted to the design. Can't wait to see your boat in the water and sailing. Other than Charlie's have there been other completed Sundowners?

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    Default Re: Welsford Sundowner build

    Mr Welsford may chime in but from memory there is a stretched one similar to mine somewhere on the water as well.

    If you want extra photos of the original build have a look throught the old blog of Mr Wipple at http://tokyowest.typepad.com/charlie.../10/index.html

    EDIT starts at 9-7-05.

    Mal
    Last edited by Quest; 04-06-2018 at 03:30 AM. Reason: Added date to help review of blog
    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    I just had a look at that blog and there’s a clever bit of writing at Sept 2010 under ”English Fun”

    took a little while to figure it, but to see more boat stuff in that blog use the “back” and “fwd” arrows at top of pages.
    Last edited by andrewpatrol; 04-06-2018 at 03:44 AM.

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    Default Re: Welsford Sundowner build

    Thanks Andrew, should have added a reference date which I have done now. I have looked at it so much I know where stuff is and forgot.

    Mal
    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    After much hand wringing, and further sanding/fairing I got to the point where I could not avoid painting any longer. Been worried about how it will look, but you got to stop sanding sometime. Decided to go with International Interprotect two part epoxy sealer/primer, and thinned the first coat about ten percent. Other than the smell, seems to be working okay so far. I decided to do the bottom surface (which is flatter than many other boats) and everything on deck first. This was due to only having to removed part of the cradle supporting the boat, and being a chicken and wanting to start underneath where only the fish will be looking at my first attempt. Cut in the edges with a brush and rolled the vast majority of it with a 160mm or 180mm wide cloth roller.

    Looking underneath from the bow to aft:



    From the aft:



    Looking aft on the deck part way though before I did the cabin and cockpit:




    Cockpit from the side:



    The transom from the side (reminds me of Mr Whipple's similar shot!)





    A final shot looking forward down the port side. Sorry, the light was failing but you get the idea.




    I was pleasantly surprised with the finish, particularly on the deck and rear quarter deck where I went a bit thicker. But I have put a second coat in the anchor well and it seems to cover well anything still visible. I will do at least two coats, possibly three. I've used a four litre can (with the hardener as well) so far.

    Feeling a little better about the process and finish I must say, but a few things to tidy up here and there.



    Mal
    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    Great stage to be at Mal, all power to your brush hand.

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