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    Hello all,
    I have been getting lots of good advice from here since I joined, and in particular like the build threads. After nudging from Bernadette and and email to Larks I have taken the plunge to put some information back into the group. Please remember I am VERY MUCH an amature builder and look forward to many years of pottering away on my build.

    I enjoyed Charlie Wipple's updates on the John Welsford website and hope I can assist someone else who is considering the Sundowner. There is not a lot on Sundowner builds on the net, and hope I can contribute something to the history. I will post photo's here very soon, just getting used to putting them onto the net and how it all works.

    This will be a very long process over possibly five to ten years, don't expect it to rush along some some others (JoshuaIII, Mr Madison and Mr Lenihan). I am in Queensland Australia so the weather should be kinder to me than others......

    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/
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    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

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    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    G'day Quest. Good looking craft and very Welsford in her lines. Looks like a good sea boat and with seemingly a surprising amount of room. I will follow your build with interest.

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    Another mexican here - very interested in this build cos it'd be the boat I'd build if I wasnt building what I'm building.

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    Hi Quest,

    I'm all ears. Please post whenever you can. I see your stretching your Sundowner out to 7.3m (24ft) from 6.6m (21tf). This a great small cruising design.
    Your making great progress with your stem, bowsprit and first frame. Will you be building and outfitting her for offshore work or more coastal?


    Charlie Whipple's.

    Ed
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    Quite interested to watch your progress.
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    Photos as promised after tech support from Larks. First is a Welsford "Tender Behind" that I have finished (just have to tie on the sails and launch). Was a great way to see what I could do.






    Sundowner stem, 16 laminations of 6mm thick 45mm wide clear Hoop Pine. It was done in three lots.



    Forward hatch, thanks for the research I was able to do on some other threads. 15mm gap (spacers) between the inside clear Hoop Pine (epoxied) and outside hardwood. Top is 3 layers of 3mm ply screwed on 50mm centres. Below is dry fit only.



    Hardwood outside screwed and epoxied on (inside was epoxied first). Gaps at the corner were my modification to the plan from John Welsford, I designed it to fit some 40mm x 40mm hardwood off cuts I had left over from making the tiller. Original design is like others on this forum, with a hardwood corner piece with angle cuts all over it. I am very far from a cabinet maker so just screwed and epoxied them together then filleted the inside joins.




    Looking down from above into the drainage gap. Two hardwood corners on the ground at bottom right.




    The finished article. Epoxy on the top and underneath of the ply curve, two coats of oil based sealer/undercoat then two coats of exterior grade house paint all over everything with colour coat after that. You can see two of the 10mm drain holes (angled down from the inside) on the front face. Hinges are stainless removable ones and the support can also come apart to remove the top entirely. Two adjustable latches inside to keep it closed and rubber seal all round.
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    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    Below is a photo of the first frame. 9mm solid bulkhead with 25mm thick solid wood, top curve is laminated from 6mm Hoop Pine.







    Rudder and tiller. Tiller is shaped hardwood, two pieces joined with epoxy and screws to reduce waste because of the curve. Rudder is thirteen lots of 40mm x40mm wood with three 6mm threaded rods through the blade and 20mm hardwood reinforcement each side at the top. First four are hardwood (the darker wood) and the whole thing is 1880mm high. Base plate is 9mm ply screwed on 50mm centres and epoxy filleted.






    Whole thing coated in epoxy then two coats of 2 part epoxy undercoat/primer. Got a bit carried away....

    Last edited by Quest; 07-11-2017 at 07:37 PM. Reason: Photobucket
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    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    [QUOTE=keyhavenpotterer;3423411]Hi Quest,

    I'm all ears. Please post whenever you can. I see your stretching your Sundowner out to 7.3m (24ft) from 6.6m (21tf). This a great small cruising design.
    Your making great progress with your stem, bowsprit and first frame. Will you be building and outfitting her for offshore work or more coastal?



    I will start with Moreton Bay, East Coast of Australia (Whitsundays) and see what happens after that. I really like the design with the full keel and protected cockpit but that is a lot of skinned knuckles and blisters away from now.........
    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    Finally set up the floor to draw on, photo below is looking across it. 3600mm wide and 2400mm high.



    From the plans made a cardboard template of the solid wood (top and bottom), lay the cut out solid wood on the floor after marking the top outside, outside middle chine and bottom outside positions up or down from the waterline and out from the centreline. Used the three points to position the wood and marked them for cutting/scarfing. Also cut a partial 9mm ply bulkhead with solid wood on the rear (bottom of picture) and cut the solid hardwood for the keel bolts .



    Put it all together and checked everything, then epoxied it with two countersunk 10g x 30mm screws each side in the bottom solid frames through the ply and into the hardwood. This is frame two rear face, also has 9mm doublers over the scarf each side:



    And forward face:
    Last edited by Quest; 07-11-2017 at 07:39 PM. Reason: Photobucket
    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    Gday Quest, Did John Welsford do you a new set of drawings to increase length of boat along with beam, draft, sail area, and ballast? Curiouser. I had a good read of Charlie Whipples blog thing on JW's website. That'd be something to see your two boats together if you continue with your colour scheme !!! Have you heard anything of CW's voyage?

    Andrew

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    Almost caught up to where I am at in reality.

    Bowsprit - three 80mm x 40mm pieces of Oregon pine to give me a single piece 120mm wide and 80mm high that was 2050mm long.



    This was then shaped according to the plan. The photo below probably shows the final shape the best. The bottom face (resting on the saw horses) is flat with the top surface sloping up to a centre section that is the full size of 120mm x 80mm. It then slopes down the the right hand end which is where the fitting goes which is not yet cut pending fabrication and galvanising.



    The picture below is looking from the fitting end and shows how the bowsprit tapers from the middle toward where it will meet the boat (the far end).





    Last edited by Quest; 07-11-2017 at 07:41 PM. Reason: Photobucket
    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    Andrewpatrol,
    In discussions with JW he said a few had already been increased, and he was comfortable with it as long as no more than 12.5% (from memory). I went with 12% and will put the frames an increased distance apart when setting up on the strongback. The rig will be adjusted, still firming up the details of that, but obviously increased as will be the ballast.

    Unfortunately from what I read CW's boat was wrecked off New Zealand not long after departure. It is mentioned on some other posts if you google it, I don't know the full story but I recall reading something about it on Charlie's blog and even watching some old footage of the boat on rocks.
    Quest

    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    Quest,

    I know there's alot more to build a boat like this than the sheet material, but how much 4/6/9/12/18mm plywood does a Sundowner expect to use? Since there is a fair amount of it, does John spec a type e.g. Mahogany/ Birch/ Occume etc for it, for the predicted weight and strength requirements?

    Regards

    Ed
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    Good luck to you Quest -

    Every time I look at this picture I find it hard to believe that it's a 6.5m boat



    - a good looking choice for fun in Queensland

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    With standing headroom!!!

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    The bulkhead at frame one and partial on frame two are 9mm, I'd have to dig up the building guide and my calculations but from memory the hull at 6.5m is projected to use about 14 sheets of 9mm. Cut into 150mm wide planks you get 8 at 2400mm from each sheet for a total of 112. I will probably use a few more due to waste and the slightly larger size.

    I am fibre glassing the outside and coating with epoxy on the inside (plus between the layers) same as the original, which was solid wood. Then you have the deck, fit out and cabin top so we will see as we go! Ask me in a couple of years and I'll let you know what it took to each stage. I am figuring on at least a four or five more for the hull. I'm going with BS1088 marine ply at this stage.
    Quest

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    Cheers Quest,

    I was asking as I was wondering if the total is close to a 'pallet load' for a Sundowner - typically 25 or 50 sheets, as it gets much cheaper in such quantity from wholesalers. Joubert is very good quality and a good price but nobody imports it into the UK currently. They'd sell pallet loads from France to us though.

    Regards

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    I'm in love with the Sundowner, and I'm so excited to find that someone is building it on here! I would love to build this boat someday. Love the blog and the photos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyhavenpotterer View Post
    Cheers Quest,

    I was asking as I was wondering if the total is close to a 'pallet load' for a Sundowner - typically 25 or 50 sheets, as it gets much cheaper in such quantity from wholesalers. Joubert is very good quality and a good price but nobody imports it into the UK currently. They'd sell pallet loads from France to us though.

    Regards

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    Ed,
    25 sheets you would easily use but I think 50 would be too many. You also need some other sizes (12mm for instance for a bulkhead or two and the transom I think from memory).
    Last edited by Quest; 06-07-2012 at 02:56 AM. Reason: bad spelling, wrong ply thickness
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    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    I'm in love with the Sundowner, and I'm so excited to find that someone is building it on here! I would love to build this boat someday. Love the blog and the photos!
    Thank you for the compliment. I looked at other designs, a few Dudley Dix ones and Bateau has a 26 footer (VG26) but I could not get this one out of my mind. Then I found Charlie Wipple's progress reports and that tipped me over the edge. There is not too much information on the web other than the CW build blog, so I am hoping that I can add a bit more. Just remember this is an amature build, nowhere near the workmanship I was inspired by on the Gartside 116a thread from JoshuaIII and a few others.
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    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

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    Frame 3 is done.

    First photo is the cut solid wood and scarf joints. Note the cardboard templates in the top right hand corner.



    This one has 9mm ply webs on each side against the solid wood which will form part of storage dividers and also support the double berth in the front. You can see them below, they were cut oversize and then after clamping the solid the ply was marked for cutting the curve.





    Now the sides were solid, the frame was placed on the lofting floor, propped up and had the hardwood cross piece screwed ( 14 gauge x 40mm) and epoxied together. A temporary cross piece was screwed across the top to give it support and also for placing on the strongback upside down.



    Below is the rear face, I had some epoxy left over so coated the ply each side a bit up from the solid wood/hardwood cross piece. Width at the top to outside 2340mm, hope the door is wide enough!!



    Close up of right web




    Forward face

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    The frames continue, #4 finished and not too different from #3. You've seen the scarfing and laminating so will cut to the final results. This one is 2490mm outside to outside across the top. The ply is 12mm and surprisingly much heavier than the 9mm when I lifted it.

    Below is the rear face



    Above on the left is the forward face of the galley, middle is access to forward where the bed/berth will be. On the right will be the forward wall of the enclosed head. Both these will have ply fitted above the horizontal joiner once the boat is completed to hull stage and flipped over for fit out. Lets not get ahead of ourselves yet though.....



    Above is the forward face, you can see the 80mm x 60mm hardwood support across the bottom which will have keel bolts through it. I am waiting to decide on the exact fitout for storage underneath until doing the interior.

    Finally below are frames #1 to #4 which I took so I felt I was getting somewhere.



    Apologies for some spotting on the photos, I didn't realise how dusty the camera had got.
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    Nice series of build pictures.
    I've been having the same "spotty" problems with my camera, it is actually the flash catching airborne dustmotes, take a couple of pictures back-to back and you'll see they move around.

    Steve

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    Just tagging this for my subscription list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stromborg View Post
    Nice series of build pictures.
    I've been having the same "spotty" problems with my camera, it is actually the flash catching airborne dustmotes, take a couple of pictures back-to back and you'll see they move around.

    Steve
    Thanks for the tip, that makes sense because I had just finished cutting the stringer cut outs and had to use full flash because the light was nearly gone.
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    Starting to get a roll on with the frames. Frame #5 has been slightly modified as I am turning a table/study into an enclosed head.

    On the lofting floor:



    Clamped with epoxy and screwed:



    Below is a close up of the modification. This side (stb) is also supposed to have 12mm ply web. I put a 12mm doubler on to stiffen the solid frame wood, and will put a solid piece of wood between the hardwood floor and laminated overhead beam when fitting out to frame in the head.



    This is the completed frame looking at the aft face, width is 2628mm to outside of the frames with hull planking and rubbing strakes to come yet. This is the widest frame of the boat. Don't worry about the wood taped to the ply, it is framing for the seating/berth that continues aft but I am considering some changes so didn't attach it yet just in case.



    The opening on the left above is ventilation and access to storage area against the hull, the square opening is access to day water container storage.

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    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

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    Hi Quest, do those ears ( at tops of frame) get cut off later? That shot of frame next to dinghy gives an idea of volume of that hull !!! What timber are you using for framing?
    Andrew

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    Andrew,
    They do get cut off. If you look at the top you see the cut out for the chines. If you imagine cutting a line towards the centre of the boat from the outside top, but up at an angle of 10 degrees (deck angle). The rest is just extra for me to attach the temporary support/mounting wood onto so it rests on solid wood each side when upside down. I am using clear hoop pine, 25mm thick for the solid wood. Ply on this one is 12mm again. The hardwood on the bottom is Qld maple.

    Your thread has got me thinking about getting the strong back up and running so I can see some frames up, but I don't have the room unfortunately. Thanks for the tip on the beams for that to.

    Mal
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    Fr #6 is complete, but fr #5 was not the widest. When I was marking this one out I found it was 2704mm frame outside to outside (76mm wider than the last one). A few tense moments as I flicked through the plans of the frames to come and confirmed THIS was the widest. By my calculations I only have 75mm each side of the completed hull to get it out the door, so you can understand why I ran into the house!

    Below is one side of this frame. It has no hardwood across the bottom as the two layers of ply to go across on top (when upside down) make up the main cabin area. Apologies if this is too confusing, scroll down to the bottom and imagine the completed frame upside down and it will make sense I hope.



    The 9mm ply web at the base forms a seat support, the 6mm ply at the top goes all the way down to 9mm above the bottom ply web (for a seat top to slide into). 9mm doubler on this side from the bottom of the bookcase across the frame scarf joint again stopping 9mm above where the seat support is.

    The top 6mm ply forms the framework for a bookcase, with 20mm x 20mm solid wood doublers each side. The horizontal ones support the shelves, the vertical ones give you something to screw the ply front onto. Notches for 20mm x 20mm running lengthways for the front to attach to between frames.

    Below is the finished frame, from aft:



    And forward side:



    Those with good eyes will notice on the right hand side there is some solid 20mm x 20mm missing (bottom vertical of the front support). I did a dry fit before removing each lot of the bookcase supports individually and putting on the epoxy. The next day when I pulled all the clamps off one handed while patting myself on the back there was the sound of wood hitting the concrete. Missed one on each side and had to mix a very small batch of epoxy (did two other little bits I had neglected on an earlier frame as well). Just when you think you are starting to get it together you are reminded of just what an amateur you are...........
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    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

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    Hey Mal slow down, you have to stretch it out for at least 5 years. Serious now - i just read Charlie whipples blog thingo on JW website and noticed he planked with solid timber on the cold moulded parts, what timber are you using?
    Also at present I'm using Bote Cote pox-e-glue which I find a bit more user friendly than normal epoxy. You dont have to mix in thickener and the 1:1 ratio has a little leeway. Just a heads up to make the experience a bit easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrewpatrol View Post
    Hey Mal slow down, you have to stretch it out for at least 5 years. Serious now - i just read Charlie whipples blog thingo on JW website and noticed he planked with solid timber on the cold moulded parts, what timber are you using?
    Also at present I'm using Bote Cote pox-e-glue which I find a bit more user friendly than normal epoxy. You dont have to mix in thickener and the 1:1 ratio has a little leeway. Just a heads up to make the experience a bit easier.

    Don't tell me to slow down, I'm not the one with frames already up on a strongback!!! I am going to go with two layers of 9mm marine ply cut into 'planks' 200mm wide. After re-reading the building guide from JW I think it was 18 sheets for normal length roughly so add a few more on for mine. Thanks for the tip on the glue, I have a feeling mixing powder etc will get the better of me well before planking.
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    Frame #7 is underway, and a lot more work.

    First is to cut rebates in the solid wood base. All four are for 30mm x 45mm vertical frames:



    The outside left and right has a slope down from the rear to the front, and then a 20mm high rebate cut from the front to the rear as well. The middle two just have the slope from rear to front.

    Close up:



    Then the solid sawn frames for each side, with doublers front and rear. Below is the forward face, need to put more thickened epoxy in the joint:



    Below is the rear, note the top of the doubler to meet the laminated beam is still to be done.



    And looking at the width:



    More to come.
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    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

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    Frame #7 is done, this one forms the rear of the cabin and the start of the cockpit.

    It felt like three times the work with the solid wood frames. Below is the starboard side, 3 x 25mm clear Hoop Pine, doublers forward and rear with the rear one epoxy glued to the laminated beam (it is also screwed into the frame).



    Below is looking from forward:



    And from aft:
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    Moving slowly towards a Welsford Sundowner.

    Hobart Wooden Boat Festival 2017, or maybe 2019ish??

    http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...undowner-build
    http://sundownerbuild.blogspot.com.au/

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    Default Re: Welsford Sundowner build

    Very nice!

    Enjoy your thread!

    /Fredrik

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    Default Re: Welsford Sundowner build

    [QUOTE=Quest;3462121]Frame #7 is done, this one forms the rear of the cabin and the start of the cockpit.

    It felt like three times the work with the solid wood frames. Below is the starboard side, 3 x 25mm clear Hoop Pine, doublers forward and rear with the rear one epoxy glued to the laminated beam (it is also screwed into the frame).

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    *Good ! This project also me greatly pleases itself.I keep up a correspondence about purchase this project. But solid deciduous species we in the Siberia do not have. In your view is it possible all frames to make frame from the plywood of 12 mm x 2 (3)? (excuse *for *the English)
    Last edited by sector; 07-10-2012 at 12:14 PM.

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