Voter fraud epicemic? Well... probably not

[David G]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._workers_.html

So much ink has been spilled on how vote suppression will affect the 2012 presidential election, one hesitates to write another word. Ari Berman has done terrific work uncovering the ways in which the new voting laws have aimed at suppressing the votes of elderly, minority, student, and other voters—particularly in swing states—who tend to vote for Democratic candidates. Wendy Weiser of the Brennan Center for Justice has an indispensible primer on the 22 new laws and two executive actions that will severely restrict voting in 17 states in November. These laws, often modeled on draft legislation from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a consortium of conservative state legislators,will have the effect of disenfranchising millions of voters, all in order to address a vote fraud “epidemic” that should be filed somewhere between the Loch Ness Monster and the Tooth Fairy in the annals of modern fairy tales.

[Curtism]

What is it with Ohio and Florida? We've become the petri dishes of putrid political practices.

Every election cycle they refine their game a little more and push particularly hard when they feel an arse kicking coming on, like this year for example. They only had to fine a couple of high school teachers $1000 for helping students register to vote and not turn the forms into the election official within 48 hours. That put a quick stop to that non sense. The League of Women Voters has been pretty much non existant this year and are afraid to do voter registration drives due to the stiff fines of $1000 for each tardy form that's turned in. So that all seems fairly effective so far.

The latest thing our fearless leaders in Florida have done is turn a list over to heads of voting districts with the names of a few hundred thousand voters who are to be checked, cross referenced with the Departmnet of Homeland Security and Department of Immigration and Nationalization, in order to ensure they aren't illegal aliens and therefore ineligable to vote. (Who TF pays for all that?) Well, the majority of the names on those suspect lists are, wait for it, Hispanic names. That's going over like a fart in church in a state with a substancial number of hispanics and Latino citizens, and people are well aware of who has been in power and who it is that's pushing this blatant, concerted effort to surpress voters.

Hopefully with this latest push these ALEC-owned legislators will finally go a little to far and it will end up biting them, good and hard, right where the good lord split them.

[David W Pratt]

TSA screeners at polling places?
Actually here in RI, low voter turnout favors the Dems.
They are thoroughly in bed with the public employee unions, and they hav high turnouts.

[Waddie]

During the 2008 election cycle Acorn visited my mother-in-laws nursing home and registered most of the residents. Funny how they all turned out to be Democrats. How do we know? The nurses watched Acorn in action. The director said Acorn won't be invited back. My M-I-L was 96 years old, and hadn't voted in 20 years. She also had severe dementia at the time.

regards,
Waddie

[David G]

Waddie,

Nice story. Do you have anything beyond an anecdote?

[Norman Bernstein]

During the 2008 election cycle Acorn visited my mother-in-laws nursing home and registered most of the residents.

Nursing home residents don't have a right to vote?

Funny how they all turned out to be Democrats.

Would you have felt better if they all turned out to be Republicans?

The director said Acorn won't be invited back.

Since ACORN doesn't exist anymore, there's little threat of that happening.

[Waddie]

Norman Bernstein; Nursing home residents don't have a right to vote?

That was never stated nor implied.....nice try, though....

Would you have felt better if they all turned out to be Republicans?

Has it been closer to 50/50 I might have believed it.

Since ACORN doesn't exist anymore, there's little threat of that happening.

Acorn's are still around......simply re-packaged..

regards,
Waddie

[wardd]

That was never stated nor implied.....nice try, though....



Has it been closer to 50/50 I might have believed it.



Acorn's are still around......simply re-packaged..

regards,
Waddie

and russia is our greatest threat

[BETTY-B]

And this is the part where we see the obfuscation, the false equivalencies and the downright dishonesty - actually, it's called lying.

[ccmanuals]

What is it with Ohio and Florida? We've become the petri dishes of putrid political practices.

Every election cycle they refine their game a little more and push particularly hard when they feel an arse kicking coming on, like this year for example. They only had to fine a couple of high school teachers $1000 for helping students register to vote and not turn the forms into the election official within 48 hours. That put a quick stop to that non sense. The League of Women Voters has been pretty much non existant this year and are afraid to do voter registration drives due to the stiff fines of $1000 for each tardy form that's turned in. So that all seems fairly effective so far.

The latest thing our fearless leaders in Florida have done is turn a list over to heads of voting districts with the names of a few hundred thousand voters who are to be checked, cross referenced with the Departmnet of Homeland Security and Department of Immigration and Nationalization, in order to ensure they aren't illegal aliens and therefore ineligable to vote. (Who TF pays for all that?) Well, the majority of the names on those suspect lists are, wait for it, Hispanic names. That's going over like a fart in church in a state with a substancial number of hispanics and Latino citizens, and people are well aware of who has been in power and who it is that's pushing this blatant, concerted effort to surpress voters.

Hopefully with this latest push these ALEC-owned legislators will finally go a little to far and it will end up biting them, good and hard, right where the good lord split them.

John, I've been watching this drama play out. Scott is some piece of work. Here is some more info.

Florida Congressman Ted Deutch (D) told ThinkProgress today that Gov. Rick Scott was engaging in a “blatant attempt to supress voter turnout.” Scott is currently involved in a massive effort to purge up to 180,000 from the voting rolls. The list, purportedly of non-citizens, has proven unreliable. Earlier this week, Seminole County Supervisor of Elections Mike Ertel, a Republican, posted a picture on Twitter of a voter on the list falsely identified as ineligible, with his passport. Congressman Deutch said that his office has heard from several constituents who have recieved a voting ineligibility letter in error. In light of these errors, Deutch will soon send a letter to Scott demanding the purge be immediatly suspended. An excerpt:

It is out of grave concern that we write to ask for the immediate suspension of the Florida Division of Elections’ directive that county supervisors of elections purge up to 180,000 names from Florida’s voter rolls in advance of the November 2012 elections.
While we all agree that the right to vote should be reserved only to those who are eligible, any process that could strip Floridians of their voting rights should be conducted with the utmost caution and transparency, and certainly not within six months of a major federal election and within 90 days of the primary. Providing a list of names with questionable validity – created with absolutely no oversight – to county supervisors and asking that they purge their rolls will create chaotic results and further undermine Floridians’ confidence in the integrity of our elections. A rushed process will undermine both Florida and federal law requiring voter rolls to be maintained in a uniform and nondiscriminatory manner.

The letter was circulated to the entire Florida Congressional delegation and Deutch expects several of his colleagues to sign on. Deutch noted that while Florida has “no history of mass voter fraud” it does have a history of “mass voter disenfranchisement” that proceeded the presidential election in 2000.
In 1998, Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris hired a private company to create a “scrub list” of duplicate registrations, deceased voters and felons prohibited from voting in Florida. The company’s list, however, was riddled with errors. One person flagged as a felon by the list was actually a Florida judge. A county elections supervisor discovered the list was unreliable when she received an erroneous letter informing her that she was a felon and could not vote. By one estimate, 7000 Florida voters were wrongfully removed from the voter rolls for the 2000 presidential election — 13 times George W. Bush’s margin of victory in that state after the Supreme Court halted the post-election recount.
Deutch said that, in this election, “Governor Scott wants to play the role of Katherine Harris.”
African-Americans made up 88 percent of the voters removed from the rolls in the purge that preceeded the 2000 election, even though they account for only about 11 percent of Florida voters. In Florida, 93 percent of black voters cast a ballot for Al Gore.

[Waddie]

and russia is our greatest threat

no..... we are our greatest threat.... "We have met the enemy, and they are us"....

regards,
Waddie

[skuthorp]

And they can get away with this? In a 'democracy'?
Oh yes, as I've been told before it's not a democracy, it's a republic.

[John of Phoenix]

And they can get away with this? In a 'democracy'?
Oh yes, as I've been told before it's not a democracy, it's a republic.

If this was anywhere else, the UN would send in election observers.

[Waddie]

Waddie,

Nice story. Do you have anything beyond an anecdote?

An anecdote is often more of a contribution to the discussion than the opinion laden C&P's you're so fond of posting. You're getting as bad as some other Bilge meisters who constantly post C&P's without comment or explanation. You're getting lazy.

regards,
Waddie

[SamSam]

Has it been closer to 50/50 I might have believed it.

You said they registered most of the people. What's your RW solution, throw a bunch of the Dems out of the home?

Funny how they all turned out to be Democrats. How do we know?

Because you said so?

[wardd]

every dem vote is suspect