Page 1 of 16 1211 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 35 of 550

Thread: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter





    August 5th 1903, Norwegian boatbuilder Søren Olsen Barmen put the main dimensions and description down on paper for a 24 feet (keel-length) “lodsbaad” (pilot cutter) to Pilot Nils Petter Clausen.
    It is with a sense of awe I am now, almost 110 years later, holding the original contract in my hands. A contract containing a brief description of the interior, rig, construction and price, was followed by a complete table of offset and more detailed information -everything in perfect handwriting.














    I am even more excited by the fact that the boat is under my care for the future, and I will dedicate a lot of time and effort into the important task of upholding the boat and its rich history for the future.

    MINDE has had caring owners before me, and they have done superb job of bringing her back to her former layout and condition. An old boat is in need of love and care continuously, and the former owner struggled to look after her over the last years, due to the fact that the boat was in Stockholm and he moved to Tokyo. I know it was a tough decision to let her go, but I guess that it became clear that the boat needed someone motivated to give her an upgrade, and luckily that has become my role and task.

    Enough prelude… Here is the situation;

    The former owners had the following work done on her during over 30 years ownership:

    New stem.
    Approximately 70% of the frames renewed to below the waterline.
    Most of the hull planking renewed above the waterline, and way below forward.
    New beamshelf
    New deckbeams/knees
    New deck/superstructure
    New rig/spars
    New interior
    2 engine replacements
    -All of this done with love and care!


    My job is the following:

    New sternpost
    New knee
    Rebuild of engine
    New frames aft
    Replacing 60% of hull planking
    New sheerstrake
    General cosmetic upgrade of the whole boat.


    To be continued...

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,216

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Oh my. I've been looking forward to this!

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Lexington, SC
    Posts
    4,954

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Cool Ole. I love it.
    Chuck Thompson

  4. #4
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Cummington
    Posts
    5,227

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Sweet vessel to appreciate! Have fun!! I look forward to seeing the progress and sailing! Thanks.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Mid October 2011, we left Fredrikstad (Norway) with our support-boat “Loeperen of Isegran” a 38 feet beautiful Colin Archer inspired boat. The crew consisted of 5 persons, and 3 of us would be on MINDE and two on the support-boat. A good mixture of experience was on board, and we were well prepared to cope with the challenges that we might meet.

    This is me, installed the night before our departure onboard Loeperen of Isegran.








    We sailed into the sunset before mooring at the town Smögen, Sweden.





    Sorry for poor quality of picture.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Although some drinks were consumed to acompany good food and the hours were late, we got up early the next morning for departure.
    No wind that day so we had to motorsail, but the weather was very nice.

    The sunrise was so beautiful!




    Arriving Laangedrag, Gotenburg were MINDE was laying. I know i wrote Stockholm earlier, but that was a mistake...












    We were quite excited about seeing her at her berth, although I had made two trips by car to her and were already in love…

    The first evening was spent figuring out if we had an engine to bring us home, or if it would be a tow.
    The latter proved to be necessary, as the Perkins was stuck as a result of salt water had found its way into the engine itself. The mechanic on board was confident however, that he would get the “Englishman” running again.

    To be continued...

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Northern NSW Australia
    Posts
    60,877

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Quote Originally Posted by svaap View Post

    My job is the following:

    New sternpost
    New knee
    Rebuild of engine
    New frames aft
    Replacing 60% of hull planking
    New sheerstrake
    General cosmetic upgrade of the whole boat.


    To be continued...
    Said he lightly !

    There's as much work there as building a small boat ! I'll watch and learn .
    '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
    Grateful Dead

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Munich, Germany
    Posts
    136

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Hi Ole,

    what a boat and what a project. I was surprised to see the offsets noted in imperial, but found out now that only in 1907 Denmark moved to the metric system as - beside of UK - the last European country.
    Keep us posted!
    Thomas
    -----------------------------------
    panta rei

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Wongawallan Oz
    Posts
    14,387

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Wonderful to finaly see this thread up and running Ole. "Loeperen" looks rather special and a very cosy looking spot for a few ales and whiskey's to warm things up.

    I'm looking forward to seeing much more of "Minde"
    Larks

    “It’s impossible”, said pride.
    “It’s risky”, said experience.
    “It’s pointless”, said reason.
    “Give it a try”, whispered the heart.

    LPBC Beneficiary

    "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great!"

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Devonport, Auckland NZ
    Posts
    1,241

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    This forum so needs this project - bring it on
    "Old boats are like teenage girlfriends: there is a certain urgency to their needs & one neglects them at one's peril"


  11. #11
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Thank you for the warm welcome!

    The imperial system was in use at that time, but I think the feet/inches was different from the system in for instance the US.
    1 feet = 31,375 centimetres
    1 inch = 2,6145 centimetres
    This was regulated by law dated July 28th 1824.

    It was not easy to understand how the table of offsets was designed. Mainly it was straightforward, but some of the colums got us scratching our heads.
    A former emloyee at the Norwegian Maritime Museum got the data, but was surprised about how it was done, but could also note that a lot of boatbuilders was not fomally trained, and knowledge was passed by from person to person. Soeren Olsen Barmen was a very respected and well thought of as boatbuilder, and he also constructed for other yards. A very similar boat is documented ("Dagmar") to be built by Nils Eriksen Narviken in 1900, and for a long time we thought that Minde was built by him, only to find out that S.Olsen Barmen was constructing/drawing for Eriksen, as he did not do that himself. That would explain the similarities.
    Minde is probably the oldest excisting boat from boatbuilderS. Olsen Barmen, and is of course very valuable for that reason.

    This is from the evening in Gothenburg, with both boats alongside.
    Lovely sheerline!





    A lot of gear was gathered, and we made ready to leave early the next morning.
    Steel-pipes (for a winter-shed) were stored on deck, and a generator, lots of pumps was installed, and we were ready to start our voyage back home.
    We knew she was leaking, but was prepared for this to worsen as she got to sea.

    This was not our tug... :-)





    Leaving Langedraag




    As soon as we got out of the inner harbor we raised the staysail, as she proved to be a hard to tow being extremely fouled in her underwater hull. Later we let go the tow-line and raised the mainsail and the jib. We were sailing!



    Steering was hard, as she did not respond to the rudder very much. The course was kept by constantly trimming the sails, by command of the captain. At times we thought he was making us trim just for the exercise…





    16 tons at 8 knots, what a feeling.
    She did leak, but not as much as we had feared. The generator was used more to power the batteries for the laptop than to pump water :-)
    Last edited by svaap; 04-29-2012 at 03:05 PM.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Nice housing for the compass!





    The wind had now shifted to a nice breeze from southwest, and we were making good progress on our way to her native country, Norway.

    Since we had no engine, we needed to sail in and out of harbor –an exercise I was not confident with. I went very well due to our experienced captain who had years of experience of handling just this type of vessel under sail. Although she gave us some challenges since she did not take steering very well. It was like driving a car with the hand-brakes on..

    This picture is taken from Havstensund, Sweden.




    This is from the last day of our three day return to Fredrikstad, Norway.







    A lot of paint fell off her topsides.



  13. #13
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Finally on the third day we reached our destination, and sails were lowered and the tow-line set before we took on the last route up the river towards Isegran, Fredrikstad.

    We started rigging her down as soon as we arrived, as the was to be hauled out of the water the following week.





    Beautiful work by the former owners!




    A crane was used to lift out the heavy larch mast.




    A big mobile-crane arrived at the yard, and the guys at Isegran proved that this was merely routine for them.






    l
    l
    l

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Devonport, Auckland NZ
    Posts
    1,241

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Two things:

    1. Your 'support' boat if a rather fine vessel

    2. Love the flag / pennant
    "Old boats are like teenage girlfriends: there is a certain urgency to their needs & one neglects them at one's peril"


  15. #15
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    589

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Hej Svaap

    I've been looking forward to this - she's a very beautiful boat!

    /F

  16. #16
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Alan,

    Loeperen of Isegran is for sale, and yes it is a beautiful boat!
    NZ is just about on the other side of the globe, so you will have a nice voyage back home ...

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Northern NSW Australia
    Posts
    60,877

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Her bottom doesn't look very foul?
    '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
    Grateful Dead

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    South Puget Sound/summer Eastern carib./winter
    Posts
    12,753

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    8 knots with a dirty bottom !
    All those good looking boats everywhere ! I'd swear you photochopped them in!

  19. #19
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    The back of the boat was very grown, especially the rudder sternpost/propeller.
    I am not sure how much the performance was affected, but I guess/hope it had some impact on it...

    Isegran is a traditional boat yard, working mainly with repair and restoration of wooden boats up til about 100 tonnes or so.
    They are very skilled, and are trained in how to restore in the timely tradition that so few yards do today. There are many interesting boats there, and the premises are owned by the Maritime Museum of Fredrikstad, so you'll see a lot of interesting history there.


    High and dry, she was gently propped up and steamed.






    I knew that the sternpost was in poor condition, and I was eager to see what was lurking behind the planking. It was worse than I had expected, and it was a bit scary to think about how we sailed her with the rudder at full angle. The frames were in better condition than I feared, although some needed replacement.








    This is a picture of the sternpost. Over the years it had been repaired several times. The structural integrity was gone and it did not hold the fastenings very well.





    Some of the planking was in poor conditon, but mostly was surprisingly sound.
    This was one of the bad ones. You can see the trunnel clearly, as only the outer line of the plank was intact - it was hollowed on the inside.





    Well, now that I knew roughly what I had coming, I could order neccessary wood to start the rebuild.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    The sternpost was gently removed, as was several pairs of sawn frames. The frames are 4 1/2 " doubled to 9" by 4". The frames are lower in the stern of the hull, as they are above 5" high forward.


















    The main challenge with producing these timbers were the weight of the timbers before I cut them to size. You can imagine the weight ofrelatively green oak at these dimensions.
    After cutting they were manageable until they were assembled. Getting them installed on the hull was a bit tricky.


    Next the sternpost..

    /Ole


    l

  21. #21
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Cummington
    Posts
    5,227

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    And it's almost May! Summer soon!
    Thanks!

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    8,690

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Quote Originally Posted by svaap View Post
    The sternpost was gently removed, as was several pairs of sawn frames. The frames are 4 1/2 " doubled to 9" by 4". The frames are lower in the stern of the hull, as they are above 5" high forward.





    Getting them installed on the hull was a bit tricky.


    Next the sternpost..

    /Ole


    l
    A bit of an understatement, I would wager. Good luck!!!

  23. #23
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    All of the oak was ordered from Denmark, and I tried to get timbers with curves to match the specific parts.
    The plank for the sternpost was a lovely piece of wood 6" thick. I made a template with minor changes from the piece I had removed. I did not want to copy the large cut-out that was made at the time Minde got her first engine in 1909. This aparture has since caused a lot of turbulence and affected the performance of the rudder.
    A large timber of 8" thickness was ordered for a new knee. The old one was clearly not prepared for a stern-tube for the propeller. I wanted to improve this area of the construction, without changing the profile.


    This is the template that I brought down to Minde for a trial fit.
    I have not mentioned that Minde is a two hour drive from where we live, so I do not have the luxyry of working on her except during most weekends. Prefabricating parts was done at home though.








    As you can see I cut away all of the planking-ends, since the most of them were bad where they met the rabbet of the sternpost.
    Of couse, this ment a lot more work to complete the hull, since I could not replace a lot of short planks but needed to replace over 60% of the planking to uphold the strenght of the hull.

    I cut the sternpost outside, as I could not move the plank due to its weight. I used the chainsaw to cut at 90 degr angle to the lines from the pattern, and used an adze to remove the chunks of oak. I have a big adze called a "Bile" that normally is used to cut the joints of timber houses. This is by far my favourite tool!





    It took some work with the planer to get down to the scribed line, and also the get the cut 90 degr to the sides.






  24. #24
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter







    After moving it into the workshop, I started measuring and marking the rabbet. The outer cut was done with a skilsaw, and the wood removed with the "bile".





    The bile has a cutting edge of over 6" and has a big mass/weight, that enables it to be used like a slick. When sharp you have fair control of what you are doing.




    I cleaned the rabbet with a handplaner, and cut a 2" thick plank for trial fit of the depth of the rabbet.







  25. #25
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    CT, USA
    Posts
    8,889

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    This is going to be a fun thread to watch, thank you!
    "Please be more specific or we'll choose to order a cheaper bilge-rat to replace you."

    ~seanz

  26. #26
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    I think the next picture reminds me of a swan during take-off




  27. #27
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Seattle, WA
    Posts
    8,690

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    I have done mostly speedboat restoration...in that variety of boat the scantlings are tiny compared to what you are doing...planking is 3/8 inch (10mm)
    My back aches just looking at those frames.

    Great work and good luck to you, sir!

  28. #28
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Walney, near Cumbria UK
    Posts
    31,969

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Quote Originally Posted by svaap View Post





    After moving it into the workshop, I started measuring and marking the rabbet. The outer cut was done with a skilsaw, and the wood removed with the "bile".





    The bile has a cutting edge of over 6" and has a big mass/weight, that enables it to be used like a slick. When sharp you have fair control of what you are doing.


    I'm guessing that is sharpened as a side axe? But with no hang to the haft.
    It really is quite difficult to build an ugly wooden boat.

    The power of the web: Anyone can post anything on the web
    The weakness of the web: Anyone can post anything on the web.

  29. #29
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    South Australia and Tasmania
    Posts
    10,443

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    She'll be lovely. Good on you.

  30. #30
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    1,216

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Ole, I'd love to see some more photos of the interior of your support boat. The berth to your right in the first pic in #5 looks like the most cozy thing ever.

    Milo

  31. #31
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    1,970

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    I take my hat off to you Sir , a great job , on a real boat !.
    Rob J.

  32. #32
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Devonport, Auckland NZ
    Posts
    1,241

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Quote Originally Posted by svaap View Post
    Alan,

    Loeperen of Isegran is for sale, and yes it is a beautiful boat!
    NZ is just about on the other side of the globe, so you will have a nice voyage back home ...
    Is she listed for sale on-line somewhere i.e. a site where u can view photos? Cheers Alan
    "Old boats are like teenage girlfriends: there is a certain urgency to their needs & one neglects them at one's peril"


  33. #33
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Northern NSW Australia
    Posts
    60,877

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    "This is a picture of the sternpost. Over the years it had been repaired several times. The structural integrity was gone and it did not hold the fastenings very well.





    Some of the planking was in poor conditon, but mostly was surprisingly sound.
    This was one of the bad ones. You can see the trunnel clearly, as only the outer line of the plank was intact - it was hollowed on the inside.





    Well, now that I knew roughly what I had coming, I could order neccessary wood to start the rebuild.[/QUOTE]


    I find these two photos amazing and terrifying !! That she still floated is incredible .

    A wonderful project , she will be magnificent!
    '' You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know. ''
    Grateful Dead

  34. #34
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Wongawallan Oz
    Posts
    14,387

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Ole, any chance of a few "as found" interior photos of Minde?
    Larks

    “It’s impossible”, said pride.
    “It’s risky”, said experience.
    “It’s pointless”, said reason.
    “Give it a try”, whispered the heart.

    LPBC Beneficiary

    "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great!"

  35. #35
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Near Oslo, Norway
    Posts
    601

    Default Re: Restoration of MINDE, a 1903 Pilot Cutter

    Thanks guys for all your support!

    Peter:
    The sternpost was really bad, but the planking was in much better condition (except the one you refer to on the picture).
    Some of the planks were in good condition, but over the years the seams had been overchaulked and the inner faces got rounded. Apparently it got harder and harder to keep the chaulking, and some of it went through the hull on the inside. At some spots, thin strips of sheet metal had been inserted to maintain a edge to chaulk against.

    When I am finished with replanking at my defined plan for butting the planks, she will be over 90% renewed with all the new planks that the former owners renewed.

    I ordered 2,5 cubic meters of planking-stock that had been cut in 2010. The quality was a bit disappointing as some of them had big knots in the middle of the plank, leaving me with two short lenghts. The planking was of impressive dimensions, many of them 11 meters long, and 55 milimeters thick, and up til 80 centimeters wide.
    (Turning the plank-stock to find a suitable plank is heavy labour, as you can imagine).


    I took some pictures of the boat when I went down to Gothenburg to inspect her, but they are mainly of structural focus (top of frames, frame/beam-connections, beamshelf, knees, frames, etc). There are some photos of her interiour from when I got her to Fredrikstad, and I will post some of these as I go.

    Milo:
    Yes, I think the berth you refer to is the best bunk in the boat, although the port forward bunk is also really nice (wider). Actually I took a picture of the port "loskøye" ("pilot-bunk").






    Alan:
    She is not listed for sale online yet, but I understand she will be shortly, so if you have any friends looking for a lovely sturdy sailboat you know where to find it..


    Work continued with shaping a new knee to connect the sternpost.





    And a later trial fit








    Sorry for poor quality on pictures..


    I needed to cut off some sapwood on the inner face of the sternpost towards the keel, and compensated for this when I cut the knee.
    It made fitting the connction a bit more complex but I got it tight after some work.





    As you can see, the rabbet had not been finally shaped to receive the planking at this point.

    Cheers,
    Ole

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •