Has anyone built a "Ladybug boat"?

[creekside]

I was interested in the crafts performance off shore in a modest chop.

[P-man]

you're not talking about this Ladybug, are you?



http://www.harrybryan.com/harrybryan/plan13.html

i don't think you'd want to take this boat off shore.

[sailboy3]

No, probably this ladybug boat:

http://www.ladybugboats.com/

[Hunky Dory]

That is more commonly known as a Brockway skiff but has several different people building them with different names. Some have a little more rocker than others but the same construction methods. They are a wide flatbottom skiff so in a chop they will pound slow going will get you through. They plane easy with little power and carry a lot of weight so they are very popular with comm. fisherman that stay inshore. My brother is on his third one ,it is an 18' with a 40 hp. Honda. It is very fast empty and will plane with a half ton of bait and two guys aboard.

[skaraborgcraft]

Or....are you talking of Michalaks Ladybug sail boat?

[creekside]

Thanks for the reply, This is the exact skiff I was refering to designed by Ken Martin.

[Spokaloo]

Ken Martin didn't design anything, he took the original Brockway plans, photo copied them, and started selling them. If you want that boat, get the Brockway plans online for free, and build that boat.

If you want better planing performance, check with Walt over at Old Wharf Dory. His design is bulletproof, easy to build, and the framing members on the sole aren't as big of a trip hazard, while still being strong as an ox.

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[creekside]

Ken Martin didn't design anything, he took the original Brockway plans, photo copied them, and started selling them. If you want that boat, get the Brockway plans online for free, and build that boat.

If you want better planing performance, check with Walt over at Old Wharf Dory. His design is bulletproof, easy to build, and the framing members on the sole aren't as big of a trip hazard, while still being strong as an ox.

E

Thankyou for the advise.

[creekside]

Spokaloo,
I have taken your advise and checked out the "Simmons Sea Skiff" at Old Wharf. I will be looking at plans soon.
Thanks for the tip.

[gstanfield]

Actually, Spok was referring to the Lumberyard Skiff at Old Warf as being the same type of boat, but improved.

http://www.oldwharf.com/ow_workskiffs.html

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...ild+in+silence

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthre...ild+in+silence

[creekside]

Well Ive got the plans for the simmons sea skiff bottom and for the rest I have plans from the Cape fear museum. It is a little more than I had expected as compared to simpler skiffs. So please if anyone has built one, your input would be welcomed before I stub my toe.

Also, I am also wondering if the skiff can be fitted with a regular transom rather than the well mounted OB motor.

[KingKuvas]

Ken Martin didn't design anything, he took the original Brockway plans, photo copied them, and started selling them. If you want that boat, get the Brockway plans online for free, and build that boat.

If you want better planing performance, check with Walt over at Old Wharf Dory. His design is bulletproof, easy to build, and the framing members on the sole aren't as big of a trip hazard, while still being strong as an ox.

E

Spookaloo are you saying i copied the plans from Brockway?? these skiffs are not the same dimensions at all.. As for Old Wharf nice boat but a true flat bottom skiff. Much more difficult to build than the Lady Bug. You should think before accusing people of plagiarism.

[Spokaloo]

I have the Brockway plans in my possession, I have the Old Wharf plans in my possession, and I have contact information from someone who built your boat with plenty of details. There's very, very little elbow room in the gap between the Ladybug and the Brockway, though there's nobody to take on that fight because those plans are in the public domain.

Also, you use advertising media for individuals to sell used items (such as Craigslist) to try to sell your plans, which is somewhere between illegal and unethical, depending on where you fall in your advertising law opinion.

I have serious doubt that the Ladybug goes together more easily than the LYS did, as it was literally 40 hours of labor including paint, building a console, and fit out.

My point has been, and always will be, that the LYS is the better boat for various reasons, such as the use of 2x8 instead of 4x4 members on the sole for reduced trip hazard and decreased weight with equal strength. The gunwale setup on the LYS is easier to build and stronger because it incorporates the plywood to the full height of the boat instead of holding it lower and having the water trapping lap on top. There's less saw work in fitting out the side frames without said lap as well. The LYS has a low rocker and high rocker version, which allows for different needs to be met. Frames on the sides, being 2x8, require no knees and offer a larger cockpit space with less trip risk at the gunwale.

My opinion stands, LYS is a better boat, and Walt is an old school businessman who has very strong ethics and I believe in what he does.

E