Philippine mahogany

[amsamu]

Hi all ,

I'm located in new jersey and have around 250 to 350 feet of Philippine mahogany i'm looking to sell was wondering if anybody knew were or who i could find in my area that would like to buy it.

they run from 9 foot to 20 foot in length all are around 7 3/4 wide width are 3/4 inch or 1 inch ...

Thanks for any help Brandon.

Will email pics if anyone wants.

[Jay Greer]

Just so we know which Philippine mahogony you have, is it tangile or luanne?
Jay

[amsamu]

don't know but it is a reddish color tried posting pics here but they wont come up.

[GARRBOSR]

How much are you asking? Gary, dunndeal57@aol.com

[CundysHarbor]

Anxiously watching this one.

[Bob Adams]

I could use some. I suspect the foum police will be along shortly though, they don't take kindly to selling stuff here.

[amsamu]

amsamu@yahoo.com

[amsamu]

Sorry if selling isnt aloud just figured in this day and age why not try to help someone else out with there project worse come to worse ill just burn it during the winter in my wood burning stove.

[GARRBOSR]

well as one jr member to another let ask? is it ok to sell things like this to other members? it would seem to me its a good and thoughtfull thing to do, I know as a jr boat restorer ( 10yrs) with a few boats to do, finding a stash of Mahogany is a beautiful thing,,,

[Bob Adams]

It's in the forum rules...the website owner has a classified section in it's magizene. This has been debated a few times, allowing section for ads.

[jackster]

Sorry if selling isnt aloud just figured in this day and age why not try to help someone else out with there project worse come to worse ill just burn it during the winter in my wood burning stove.

Now that seems unnecessarily juvenile .

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[GARRBOSR]

and would there be a fee for posting in the classified section?

[amsamu]

guess you both have points...Figure maybe not selling here but at least be allowed to swap emails and go thru it that way,.

[amsamu]

how was it being wrong just posting what i would do with it ..Think i really care what kind of wood i burn...doesn't matter to me

[GARRBOSR]

well I for one am glad to know the yes'es and no's cause im a newbie too, but I may like to get me some of that Mahogany so amsamu I put my email address a few post back, maybe gime a note and I can call you or something, I may be going to NJ for look at a 30' Marblehead boat to restore, and restoring boats is why I joind here to pik all the real restorer's brains some. Speaking of which I cant find much info on these boats, anyone ever hear of one and can point me in the rite direction to learn more??

[amsamu]

Ill email u later i saved your email again didnt mean any harm just didnt wanna see this wood go to waste...

[GARRBOSR]

Im pretty sure nobody thought and bad thoughts, its probably more a political thing, Ive been a member of a couple boat clubs and its all about the R & R's, rules and regulations. Best just to be politically correct and common sense prevents most problems

[37egg]

Hi I am also interested in your lumber. I live here in NJ. you can reach me gnecy@comcast.net Thanks!

[Bob Adams]

Im pretty sure nobody thought and bad thoughts, its probably more a political thing, Ive been a member of a couple boat clubs and its all about the R & R's, rules and regulations. Best just to be politically correct and common sense prevents most problems

No bad thoughts, I was just letting you know about our host's rules, so there would be no surprises. Hell, I might see about getting this lumber for myself!

[Thad Van Gilder]

That would be the wood that rots so readily when used as planking on the 37 egg harbors, right? why not just use african mahogany (khaya) and fix the problem?

-Thad

[GARRBOSR]

wow, speaking of 37 egg my friend just picked up a 1963 38 SF but its a Picnic style, havnt seen a picnic before in that model, boat looks great we'll be doing top side and bridge over maybe starting nxt week, and I just picked up a 66 36' Pacemaker in a wee bit lesser shape, so I may be picking your gray matter here if you dont mind Thad, So with these Egg's, was that some of there problem using Philippine over the African??

[Thad Van Gilder]

Eggs were originally planked white cedar over white oak. at some point early in the 60's the supply of white oak in south Jersey got tight, so they started framing and keeling out of red oak. at some point around that time they decided it would be financially more responsible to plank in "philapine Mahogany" rather than jersey cedar. At that point, the Quality of the eggs went down fast. If you talk to the boat yard guys that were active in the 60's, you will find that the new wood used by egg demanded work be done within a few years of being built.

In college I worked for a guy that was a joiner at the egg harbor factory in the 60's. I later owned a 37 and have worked on several 37's and a larger one.... a 48 of the same era and also a mess.

-Thad

[Thad Van Gilder]

When replacing planking on the 37's I worked on, I simply used jersey cedar. if using mahogany was important to someone, khaya would be the stuff to use.

The only picnic style I have seen had the original cedar planking...

[GARRBOSR]

very cool info thanks, we were thing of purchacing the 1967 43' egg and he still might, needs some work, what dosnt from that era still living, but real nice. 12.9 is the price, I may get back to you on that, the picnic I believe is going to pick up today or tomorrow if it has one type of planking does it matter if I change? will the different densities matter? Maybe its best If I start a new thread,,

[Jay Greer]

For those of you who do not trust Philippine mahogony for planking, bear in mind that there are two kinds, Tangile and Luan. Tangile is hard, pinkish red in color, rot resistant and usually a bitch to plane as it has unruly grain patterns that can run in both directions in the same plank. The other, Luan, is much softer, weighs less than Tangile and is almost white in color. It has low rot resistance but is easier to plane than Tangile. I would not bother working with Luan as it will surely end up causing problems by developing pocket rot around fastenings and in buried seams.
Jay

[GARRBOSR]

I find that extremely helpful, tnx, Ive heard much of the different Mahogs but never answers,


Only thing worth learning is what u learn after you've learned it all,,, My Dad

[GARRBOSR]

so how about from the Cabinet side of things? if it will it hold up in a marine environment to the less rigors of interior cabinets and doors, I could use some of this for interior and non wet environments ? trims and so forth? thats pretty much what I had in mind to begin with,,,

[Larks]

so how about from the Cabinet side of things? if it will it hold up in a marine environment to the less rigors of interior cabinets and doors, I could use some of this for interior and non wet environments ? trims and so forth? thats pretty much what I had in mind to begin with,,,

It'd have to be better than the veneered MDF that you see some of the commercial boat builders using for interior fitouts these days.

Guys, just remember that while our hosts provide this forum as a free service, they are able to do so by running a succesful commercial operation that includes selling advertising space in their magazine and classifieds sections. Please don't disrespect that by ignoring their fairly lenient expectations/rules that you agreed to when you signed up to and were accepted by our hosts to this forum.

[Jay Greer]

so how about from the Cabinet side of things? if it will it hold up in a marine environment to the less rigors of interior cabinets and doors, I could use some of this for interior and non wet environments ? trims and so forth? thats pretty much what I had in mind to begin with,,,

Luan is ok for cabinetry. However it has a very uninteresting grain pattern. If you wish to call it mahogany, it is actually a member of the cedar family, stain it red and call it mahogany. Otherwise do not stain it red and do not call it mahogany.
Jay

[GARRBOSR]

I was hoping it isnt luan, but worth checking since Amsamu doesnt know, havnt heard from him. Does anybody know much about Marblehead boats from the 30's 40's. Any body know there history? I know of a 30 footer looking to be adopted, Its a real fine girl needs a bit work naturaly, Its also in Nj I was thinking of checking her out. I tried googleing for Marblehead boats but mainly come up with wrong answers, not boats builders

[amsamu]

Don't think it's the luan your talking about it is red in color heavy and a bleep to plan...Still got it but does anyone know a legit place to sell? Don't wanna cause anymore issues here Thanks Again.

[Stiletto]

Local Craigslist?, Ebay?

[37egg]

I am still interested in the lumber you have. You can reach me at gnecy7@comcast.net . I am a NJ person myself. Thanks!

[Bob Adams]

I am still interested in the lumber you have. You can reach me at gnecy7@comcast.net . I am a NJ person myself. Thanks!

I'm still waiting for a response myself, I PMed him a couple days ago.