Nesting duck punt - is this possible?

[dylan winter]

as you may know I love my duck punt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYVYFFko9Ig

I am going to build a mark two next year using built in bouyancy fore and aft

to make the boat a bit safer - I was hoping to keep the weight down by dropping a few frames

but at 15 foot the punt is a very long thing

I was recently sent some plans for a nesting dinghy

and while I was walking the dog last night I started thinking about chopping the ends off - fitting a bulkhead at either end of the central box

and then bolting the ends on when I wanted to go sailing - I was planning on using bholts and butterfly nuts.

It would become a roof box you could sail

is this a stupid idea?

cads and plans here

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/scu...nd-plans-here/

build and rig stills here

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/blo...ilding-stills/

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/blo...-punt-rigging/

shed loads of films here

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/cat...ck-punt-films/


Dylan

[AnalogKid]

Sounds quite sensible to me. Have you seen Gary Dierking's Wa'apa design? Long and skinny, 3 part bolt together outrigger.

BTW - There's a guy that launches at my local beach who has a strip planked 17' kayak which he brings on a roof rack beside a strip plank roof box that he also built.

Andy.

[dylan winter]

I am working on the basis that the stress on the fore and aft sections would not be massive as most of the pressures come from the rig and my massive bulk in the punt

the pointy bits fore and aft sare there to part the waves and provide bouyancy plus a bit of chine angle to cut leeway

great boats in the link by the way

although with the sails they use a lot of the rig is up high

the opti rig on the punt is a wonderful design

ugly.... but very, very effective

[keyhavenpotterer]

Absolutely yes. Jeremy, who is building a foam sandwich version has drawn a three piece version. He too realised how easy it would be to do a three piece version in foam. The two piece version did not work out so well.

[dylan winter]

the two peice version would put a bulkhead right where I want to lie down

hence the idea of making the ends removable

I could also use the centre part as my coffin when I die

the perfect cradle to grave boat

build a duck punt chaps

it is the one boat you can saill between tides

yours

excited of Bucks

[wtarzia]

A good idea. I built a 14 foot sailing proa (two 7 foot halves, and an 8 foot float, 7 foot crossbeams, and long spars I could get out a window) in a bedroom of my after-divorce apartment :-) (It was very crude, my first boat: see at http://www.instructables.com/id/Make...t-in-a-Closet/) Though I now prefer non-assembling boats in better days, at that time it was just the thing to keep on sailing no matter what.

The whole thing fit in the back of a small SUV with the rear seat folded down, and a couple of feet sticking out of the back. It stored in a big closet or a corner of the flat, whatever, and I got the pieces out stairways easily. A simple bolt-up job. It would be easy for a duck punt.

If you could stand a center-join, bolting two halves is quicker than three thirds (a 4 inch bulkhead about where your knees would bend? Padded?) Either way, a multi-piece hull makes a boat extraordinarly useful in some situations where storage/transport is difficult. Might be a good coastal expedition craft in protected water -- easy to get home in some sort of rental vehicle. -- Wade

[John Meachen]

I think I will be keeping an eye out for a suitable rig.With that bridge crossed,the next step beckons.Add in a light collapsible launching trolley-maybe a broken dinghy mast and a couple of wheels-to get to some of the waterways and a lot of fun could be had.

[gilberj]

The only thing I see wrong with the plan ..............is you swore you would never ever build a boat again.....
Go for it

[Breakaway]

I think I will be keeping an eye out for a suitable rig.With that bridge crossed,the next step beckons.Add in a light collapsible launching trolley-maybe a broken dinghy mast and a couple of wheels-to get to some of the waterways and a lot of fun could be had

Well, if we go this far why not make a barrow boat out of her? Install a shrouded barrow wheel in one end . Bolt together, trundle to the water, sail in a glimmer.

kevin

[dylan winter]

Well, if we go this far why not make a barrow boat out of her? Install a shrouded barrow wheel in one end . Bolt together, trundle to the water, sail in a glimmer.

kevin

I have a dream

I reckon that you could use a push bike

lay the punt across the handle bars and saddle

or a wheel on one and and the other end on the luggage rack

cycle to the dock

......

did I mention this.....

build a duck punt

great little boat


mind you.... it will test your sailing abilities

this is me stuffing up again and again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Mpymv9kQE


and stan rich has had to improve his technique

http://duckpunt.wordpress.com/


Dylan

[JDMH]

Now we are cooking on gas boys !

All you need is to tow it with an electric assist folding bike and you have some ready made ballast for when you are in sailing mode. This whole concept has the makings of an amazing craft ! I love it.

Folding bikes are pretty handy at towing boats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fMeWv6QTpk

John

[dylan winter]

Now we are cooking on gas boys !

All you need is to tow it with an electric assist folding bike and you have some ready made ballast for when you are in sailing mode. This whole concept has the makings of an amazing craft ! I love it.

Folding bikes are pretty handy at towing boats:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fMeWv6QTpk

John

that is brilliant

and with a passenger as well

the punt could easily carry the weight of the bike and a small trolly

the punt sails even better with two up


http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/blo...eight-carrier/








Dylan

[gilberj]

Hi Dylan,
where do you get the plans from???....Are plans really important or can one do a reasonable version knowing a few principle dimensions??

[dylan winter]

plans and cads are here

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/scu...nd-plans-here/

and are free so you might just as well look at them before changing them

the boat has been under constant development for 100 years of more so I am sure that they can tolerate a bit of tweaking

as it stands it sails a treat - it is demanding but well worth the effort

and if you have shallow water top sail in then this is the boat for you

it really can reach places only canoeists can go

and you can sail rather than paddle

it also paddles really well with a kayak paddle - mine I paddle backwards because the mast gate is very comfortable to sit on

I widened mine for my fat ass

there are more pages of films here


http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/cat...ck-punt-films/

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/cat...-films/page/2/

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/cat...-films/page/3/

watch the east mersea men messing about - great stuff

the proper ones are built of 10mm ply or old floor boards

I built mine out of 3mm to keep the boat light enough to car top on my polo using the fender roof rack I designed

also in the films somehwere

this is turning out to be one of the best recorded home built boats

I did mine in a week from first cut to first sail

Dylan

[keyhavenpotterer]

Just to explain, the "plans" are the original plans as drawn. Build is on a jig.

The "CADs" that Dylan refers to are developed panel dimensions for the sides and bottom so the hull can be built S+T without a jig. These were kindly developed by FLO-MO.

Both sets of drawings mean you can build anyway you want, from free plans!

Brian

[gilberj]

Thanks for the link. My son ( young commercial pilot) is stuck in Saskatchewan and is planning to build some simple boat to play on the sloughs nearby. This seems to me to be ideal. These are arguably similar to my Spider a 10 foot double ended skiff I paddled and sailed as a boy, cruising all over the Muskoka Lakes when I was 11-14 years old.