maid of endor

[dredbob]

In regards to the stretched version of Blue Moon, there is also a Tom Gilmer design called Calypso that is essentially a 35' ketch rigged Blue Moon. It is shown in one of Roger Taylor's _Good Boat_ books. There was an original design that was older, and then a more recent update that made it look much better and more like Blue Moon (flush deck, etc.).

Bob

[JimD]

I like Great Bear:

[RodB]

Blue Moon...

[soba]

Maid of Endor has that pretty back curved bowsprit. I think that is the detail that really softens the design, as the straight sprits on the other designs subtly clash with the lines (on plans, anyway.)

Makes my little Seabird look a little ugly and work-boatish.

soba

[JohnPeer]

wow, this is an old thread...resurrected for 2008, lol.

But I thought I would post in case there is still some curiousity about whether anyone is actually building a "Maid of Endor".

I was surprised while searching the net that I could only find pics of one completed vessel, the one in the UK.

Well, there will be new one launched by my dad next spring here in Nova Scotia after 10 years in the making...the deck has just been glassed, and the cabin and rigging to be made this winter...
Here's a pic:

Cheers,
John

[JimD]

Sorry, tried resizeing the pic 4 times....just cannot get it small enough for this forum! 19 KB?!? What is it 1996 here at Woodenboat? lol
Anyway, see here at abacoforum.com, search for "Maid of Endor"

PSS , administrator: a jpeg is a jpg...and 19 KB? c'mon!

good grief
;-)

Don't attatch photos. Link them from another website. Basically, once they are uploaded to any other website, copy/paste them to here. Looking forward to seeing them.

[JohnPeer]

Let's try this then
:-0

http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...urrent=006.jpg

The actual boathouse, right, is full of, well, boats - so the Maid is outside. She's been there for the past 6 years with work slow and steady, (weather and other projects permitting). Before being in the tent she had sat unprotected outside for a few years after the new hull was damaged by a falling tree.I have posted the whole story on abacoforum.com if anyone's curious. Search "Endor".


Decks are fibreglass over thin marine ply over planks. But of course that is very slippery, so we'll have non-skid material atttached strategically. This is better, if less traditional, than the old crushed walnut shell in the piant my dad used on his schooner years ago...Better to not fall in though!




The only other "Maid" I've seen pics of has no forward doghouse. We do, as the interior is slightly different. The mast is on a tabernacle, allowing it to be folded down back over the cabin. Therefore, there's a bit of engineering under it to do. This design also allows for access forward with no obstruction, and a tiny marine head plumbed in. My dad rescued a beautiful old doghouse from a boatyard complete with little "jail-house" bars to protect the glass on top and bronze fittings...

[JohnPeer]

My dad bought the empty undecked hull after it had sat for years in a builder's yard after a tree had fallen and crushed the port side. It came with a little Saab 8 hp. diesel with constant-speed (variable pitch) prop. The repairs needed were extensive, but he also replaced the garbord planks with heavier ones as well as some new ribs, knees etc.

Here he is...
:-)




Here the older wheathered planks can be seen. I guess althogether this boat has been 12 years since the start, lol, including several years outside. So, will she still be a "new" boat when finally launched? lol, Sure, I guess...

Cheers
John Peer

[reddog]

John;
Where in Nova Scotia is the boat located?I am near Mahone Bay on the South Shore.The Maid of Endor design has taken my eye more than once.

Earl

[JohnPeer]

Hiya Earl,

We're just up the road in Hubbards! small world, eh?
My dad's house is right beside the little Hubbards yacht club, down near the old fishpant...
You must try to get up for a visit, my dad's retired and is there most of the time, let me know...he loves showing her to folks!

cheers
JP

[JohnPeer]

In fact Earl, do you know the boatbuilder Billy Lutwig from Mahone Bay? (Indian Point maybe it is, he has a boat shop)....he helped my dad with the repairs to the hull a few years back...It was down that way where the tree fell on her...not at Billy's though, lol
jp

[StevenBauer]

She looks great, John. Tell your dad there are people all over the world that are looking forward to the launch pics. I've been to Billy Lutwig's shop. It used to be Vernon Langille's shop.


Steven

[reddog]

John;
Yup,I know Bill fairly well,we live a couple of kilometers from him in The Narrows.Bill is a really great guy a real gentleman.
I also am familiar where your dad is.I get to Hubbards often in my travels for the Mun. of Chester.I'd love to have a look at the boat sometime.

Earl

PS It just clicked in my brain.The schooner Peers Fancy right?

[JohnPeer]

Well, that's interesting...small world indeed - at least that of wooden boats!

I'll be sure to update over the winter with more pics...as the weather turns here in NS, it slows down the tent jobs...but then it's time for the fiddly bits made in the shop. I believe my dad wants to next put the cabin sides in, no roof, which will go on later after more interior work is done...
Earl, let me know when you're next in the area... I'm there most weekends...even tomorrow and Sat! lol
jp

[reddog]

Thanks John,will do.

Earl

[JohnPeer]

Yes that's right "Peer's Fancy"...
Don Peer is my dad
;-)

[westcoastchick]

Sweet little thing and she's going to have a fitted head. I'm impressed.

[JohnPeer]

Well here it is spring '10 already, and a launch date is set for on and about June 12th. Work has continued although my dad, as always, has been sidetracked with different projects...as well as some interesting travel.

My folks picked up a little Siren 17 for use on the Saint John River - perfect for there, a small cuddy with enough room to sleep two and a surprisingly big cockpit for such a small vessel.

Anyway, on the Maid:

The hull is fully caulked, with a first coat of paint.
My dad built the bowsprit over the winter...
The cabin is now assembled and bolted to the deck, roof to follow
She'll go in without the bulwarks and rub-rail finished, just to get the hull in the water (and out again if necessary!)...and the engine tested and run up.

Here's some pics from this past weekend (May 24)


John Peer

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...May2320102.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...May2320101.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ay23201019.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...May2320103.jpg

[JohnPeer]

[donald branscom]

Well here it is spring '10 already, and a launch date is set for on and about June 12th. Work has continued although my dad, as always, has been sidetracked with different projects...as well as some interesting travel.

My folks picked up a little Siren 17 for use on the Saint John River - perfect for there, a small cuddy with enough room to sleep two and a surprisingly big cockpit for such a small vessel.

Anyway, on the Maid:

The hull is fully caulked, with a first coat of paint.
My dad built the bowsprit over the winter...
The cabin is now assembled and bolted to the deck, roof to follow
She'll go in without the bulwarks and rub-rail finished, just to get the hull in the water (and out again if necessary!)...and the engine tested and run up.

Here's some pics from this past weekend (May 24)


John Peer

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...May2320102.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...May2320101.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ay23201019.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...May2320103.jpg

You should NEVER set a launch date!!! A lunch date is ok though.

I would finish that rub rail NOW when it is easy to just stand beside the boat. Trying to do work on the boat when it is in the water is much more difficult. Don't worry about what other people think.

Remember it is MUCH EASIER to work on on the land than in the water!!!! Think hard about that!!

IS the RENT on the space the problem???

[Sailor]

Wow, Had I known there was a MOE just down from me I'd have been by to visit. I'm in Shubenacadie so maybe not JUST down the way but close enough that a sunday afternoon drive in a random direction could lead me there........ Looking forward to launch pics.

[StevenBauer]

Looking forward to launch pics.

Me, too. I hope there are lots of them.



Steven

[reddog]

Well here it is spring '10 already, and a launch date is set for on and about June 12th. Work has continued although my dad, as always, has been sidetracked with different projects...as well as some interesting travel.

My folks picked up a little Siren 17 for use on the Saint John River - perfect for there, a small cuddy with enough room to sleep two and a surprisingly big cockpit for such a small vessel.

Anyway, on the Maid:

The hull is fully caulked, with a first coat of paint.
My dad built the bowsprit over the winter...
The cabin is now assembled and bolted to the deck, roof to follow
She'll go in without the bulwarks and rub-rail finished, just to get the hull in the water (and out again if necessary!)...and the engine tested and run up.

Here's some pics from this past weekend (May 24)


John Peer

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...May2320102.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...May2320101.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...ay23201019.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...May2320103.jpg

John;
Good to hear you are still at it.I have looked for your dad's place a couple of times in my travels down to Hubbards but for the life of me could not see where the boat is.I'm still interested in having a look if you don't mind and can give a location or Civic #.Shoot me a PM if you want.
Thanks;
Earl

[JohnPeer]

""IS the RENT on the space the problem??? "'

Lol...you could say that...my mom wants it out of her back yard after 7 years!

no, you're right...there is much more work to do out of the water...and it will be. It's going in mostly to get the hull wet and see how well she closes up (or doesn't, lol). Remember, this hull was started about 15 years ago, and although she's been re-caulked, she's never been in the water

...and as well to align the engine and shaft...she'll be coming out again fairly quickly as I'll explain...

(We did the same thing with our schooner years ago...she went in hull and cabin tight just to get her out of the boatyard in East Chester, but there was much more to be done...although in THAT case, my dad DID work on her...but we could careen her against our wharf, where she floated at high tide, and sat on her keel at low...)

For THIS vessel, we have a boat house just big enough to pull her into right straight from the cove, once the slip ways are finished...I have some more boulders to move first. But she needs to be "launched" to get her around to the doors....

j

[JohnPeer]

[reddog]

Ha,ha, thanks John I think I have my bearings now.

Earl

[JohnPeer]

We will be putting the rub rails on actually tommorrow after all...they're soaking in the cove for a few days and we'll be firing up the steam box first thing in the AM (Earl, if you're around, drop down...just park at the fish plant site and stroll into the yacht club, can't miss us)...the tent is off and the boat is open for the first time in 7 years...sure is nice to see her from a few feet back.

Here's a profile view...bear in mind that there is a few inches of bulwarks not on yet, or the rub rails.

And no cabin top of course, that will actually not go on until my dad has finished the interior work. Anyone that has tried to build in 4'6" headroom will get why.

More caulking today on the transom...in fact she was opened up a bit too far so we fit a couple splines, and left one seam (well above the waterline) until we see how she swells...



Decided not to paint the bronze thru-hull fittings for the exhaust or head, like how they look nekkid... ;-)

Used "cetol" for the cabins btw, rather than varnish.
Will likely end up painting them in a year or two anyway...white most likely.

The "plan" is, for Friday or Sat - we'll leave her on her cradle for a few days at the top half of the tide, keeping the water below the little Saab as much as possible with the pumps...


Cheers
John

[StevenBauer]

Looking awesome, John. You must be getting excited.



Steven

[submariner]

Thanks for all the pics. I'm going to start lofting my long awaited MOE this summer and I'm finding this very inspirational. I notice that you have changed the design of the bowsprit, possibly shortening it? Do you have any commentary about that choice?

[JohnPeer]

Hi Submariner,

What you see there is just the "mount" for the bowsprit, e.g. there will be another much longer spar that will lie alongside it, and be "retractable" for trailering, docking etc...

It IS a slight modification from the original "fixed" plan, but will keep the line of the original plans...where the full bowsprit is part of the beauty, don't worry!

Keep in touch, as we'll post how the "retractable" sprit looks, you may like it....

She went in today...this AM we managed to slap on some copper bottom kote, and mounted the rudder...although she's not going anywhere...

The first hour or two as the tide came up around her, the seams leaked at first but I was surprised at how fast they seemed to close up.

The tide is ebbing now and we've the next 10 hours on the cradle until she floats off tomorrow, after we push her a few feet further down the ramp...

here's some pics...

J



Pulled up onto the tip-deck, bottom paint on at the last minute!




It was necessary to turn her around to launch stern first...gave me a chance to pop the forgotten rudder cotter pins in...couldn't find stainless at the last minute...be sure to replace!

That's my dad on the left....



Our friend Chris helps with the rudder...bronze fittings had to be custom made, no worries...

...anyone wanting to build a MOE - my dad would be glad to share what he's learned....



It floats.

This is the last pic I took before my cam died...but more tomorrow on the next high tide.

Yes, she leaked a bit as the tide came up...but it didn't seem to take long before the pine swelled up and closed...At high tide we still had some leaking along the top of the garboard plank, but way less than I thought we'd have...I had like 5 pumps on stand-by...

...managed to keep the water below the level of the Sabb engine, except a bit of the flywheel...but it's brackish fresh water anyway...

We'll see tomorrow...high tide is about 0900, so up at dawn to man the pumps (if needed)!

She floated fine (on the cradle), and we were tempted to float her off about an hour after this pic, but we decided to stick to the plan even thought the leaks slowed wayyy down to almost nothing - pretty good for 12 years after the fist plank was fitted! (see history above, lol...it shouldn't take YOU that long!)

J

[JohnPeer]

...one more pic someone sent me, lol...

She's pretty well afloat here, almost. By now, after just 2-3 hours the seams really seemed to have closed up...this was wayyyy faster than I'd hoped. My dad wasn't sure how long it would take...thinking it might take a day or two.

We shall see. Some of the seams above the waterline of course still need to "close up"...don't go sailing yet! Still, I'm well pleased for my dad, as cautious as he remains - I can tell he's well chuffed!

The plan is that these upper seams will close as the lower ones swell up...plus the boat is open to the rain for a few weeks anyway...(except the engine will be covered).

The transom had seams that were so far open (about 1/4 inch!!) that my dad fitted "splines" of oak in them at the last minute...except the top seam, where any "slack" can be found as the bottom 3 seams swell....

Cheers

J

[JohnPeer]

Also, don't forget, and I expect most of you regular types kniw this, lol...there is still a 3-4 inch bulwarks (railing) to be fitted along the edge of the deck, don't worry.

As for the cabin tops...my dad decided that he would leave those off while he completes the interior, at the wharf, over the next month or two....although he'll fit a "rough" plywood temporary top...

Years ago, with his schooner "Peer's Fancy", he had similar "rough" cabin coverings that went on every winter, and someone once commented, from shore, "She's a beauty, but the cabin's could use a coat of paint!"

J

[JohnPeer]

""Looking awesome, John. You must be getting excited.""

Lol...thanks Steve...it's been a heck of a day...it's 1 AM and I can't sleep...I think I'll take one more stroll over and check on her! The tide's down and she's safe on her cradle for the night...

Both my dad and I have had bigger and burlier vessels over the years, but I cannot remember ever falling in love with one like this Maid, and I don't know quite why that is...

;-)

[wizbang 13]

"The last pic before my cam died"..... Doh!! Spring just got nicer for you guys, huh?

[submariner]

Congratulations! it's a good day for the world when a maid hits the water for the first time. The boat is beautiful. I'm sure I will have many questions for you but I wont bother you with them now. You have bigger things on the mind. Keep the pictures and progress coming!