PWC problems MK3

[skuthorp]

From our local paper. A P.W.C. has disappeared of into the sunset after shucking it's two riders at a local ocean beach. Cut off switch failed and it was last seen proceeding at speed towards Tasmania, or possibly the arctic.

[Portland]

Good riddence !.
I wish that could happen to a few "sea lice" around here !.
Rob J.

[RFNK]

From our local paper. A P.W.C. has disappeared of into the sunset after shucking it's two riders at a local ocean beach. Cut off switch failed and it was last seen proceeding at speed towards Tasmania, or possibly the arctic.

Antarctic? Hard not to laugh at this tragedy isn't it?

Rick

[The Bigfella]

One would like to think that someone might claim salvage rights.... then burn it just offshore.

[Portland]

It would be good Navy gunnery practise , see if they can blow it out of the water .
Rob J.

[dylan winter]

It would be good Navy gunnery practise , see if they can blow it out of the water .
Rob J.

here is a little film about the sort of swine that use these things

apologies for the language but at the time I hated these buggers

[wizbang 13]

That IS appropriate lingo

[dylan winter]

That IS appropriate lingo

deepest apologies

but I was a bit angry at the ignorant swine

Dylan

[Portland]

They are a real problem here.
Last year I had the gaff hook out , and if I got the chance I was going to hook one of those idiots by the throat , as he roared past , I was that mad.
But he flipped the thing , and then couldn't get it started.
And he must have wondered why nobody came to his aid , he had to swim it back to shore.
Rob J.

[The Bigfella]

Its times like that you need to ditch your half drunk cuppa.

[dylan winter]

they came through in the middle of this storm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LBMkqyYFVo

and it was a glass of scotch I had to defend from being knocked over

Dylan

[Peter Malcolm Jardine]

First and foremost, PWC riders are not boaters, and they don't know much about anything except going fast. They cut in front of me sometimes, and if one of them fell, they seem to be totally unaware that I may not be able to stop instantly. A twin screw power boat would make short work of a swimmer.

[John B]

Shame they didn't have some nice tall aerials wafting around with pick me for voltage signs.

[Mad Scientist]

First and foremost, PWC riders are not boaters, and they don't know much about anything except going fast. They cut in front of me sometimes, and if one of them fell, they seem to be totally unaware that I may not be able to stop instantly. A twin screw power boat would make short work of a swimmer.

It's not just PWCs, either. A few years ago, I was passed by a biker on a 'crotch rocket', and he crossed a double center line to accomplish this ill-considered feat. And, for his trouble, all that he accomplished was getting to the red light at the next instersection 20 seconds before me!

Tom

[RFNK]

Yep, like motorbikes and cars, idiots are allowed to drive them. It's a pity as, when you really think about it, jet skis are quite amazing, innovative technology, and they're very useful for a number of purposes. They're particularly valuable for surf rescue. Sensible people can take them cruising along rivers, lakes and coasts, and they can be a lot quieter, less disturbing and use a lot less fuel than many other craft.

Rick

[purri]

That sound track sounded like Derek and Clive...

[almeyer]

Several years ago my wife and I were watching the movie "Waterworld" starring Kevin Costner. I made the observation that all the people riding Water Devils were evil.
Al

[Paul Pless]

A few years ago, I was passed by a biker on a 'crotch rocket', and he crossed a double center line to accomplish this ill-considered feat. And, for his trouble, all that he accomplished was getting to the red light at the next instersection 20 seconds before me!

Tom

Was it Ian?

[The Bigfella]

Wazzat? You want to know about the rocket in my what?

[Portland]

Another example of PWC operators attitude.
An elderly "greenie" couple , that used to be neighbours of hours came to visit.
The only thing was , they forgot their "contact book" , and didn't realise till they were essentially down here.
They knew we were on the Fitzroy , but finished up at the mouth , a nice , very quiet little fishing spot.
It was dinner time , so they set up camp for the night .
No sooner had they done that , than all hell broke loose , 2 DH's on jetski's started screaming up and down the short bit of river , populated by row boats and canoes , and people fishing off the 2 jetty's.
The Ranger was soon there , and kicked them out , but not before they had caused absolute mayhem .
A good target for a 12 gauge loaded with saltpetre , I reckon.
The river was only about 20 ft wide or less in parts , in the "everglades" , they wouldn't even see you.
Rob J.

[The Bigfella]

POLICE have corrected their statement this morning saying a swimmer had died after being hit by a jet ski in Port Melbourne last night.
They say the man is on life support awaiting the arrival of a family member from overseas.

Life support is expected to be formally switched off later today.

Police had been told the 51-year-old Port Melbourne man was swimming around Lagoon Pier, Port Melbourne, at 5.50pm last night when he was hit by two men riding a jet ski.

The man suffered serious head injuries and was placed in an induced coma before being taken to The Alfred hospital, where he remains on life support.

Police earlier reported incorrectly that the man had died.

The driver of the jet ski, a 21-year-old Roxburgh Park man, has been released by police pending further inquires.

Water Police investigators are appealing for any witnesses who may have been in the water at the time of the incident, particularly those who might have been in any nearby boats.

Anyone who may have witnessed the incident, or have information is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit www.crimestoppers.com.au

[Portland]

Hmm , I wonder if they were going under 5 knots around a structure , or swimmers ?.
Rob J.

[skuthorp]

One flipped in the surf at Woolamai I'm told, washed on to rocks

[Portland]

The news reported tonight that the PWC driver didn't know he was in a swimmer only zone , or that he had ran over a swimmer.
It was only when fishermen bought it to his attention , that he turned back , and saw the man in the water.
He will probably get a good lawyer , and get off .
No joy for the swimmer , or his family though.
Rob J.

[peter radclyffe]

many years ago in a river in south england a black small speedboat would stir his g and t late at night at a speed which caused 2 local people who were not deaf to test some fencing wire they guessed was quite strong stuff, but you can never tell,
how to test it ?
they strung it across the river and let it settle down
they knew his regular flyby times
just before the due time they stretched it tight
the cooler than cool jerk oodidnagivvanofkboutno one came down the river and his prop caught the wire,the petrol consumption momentarily increased
until the boat flipped backwards and
i heard it killed the guy,but i cant be sure

[The Bigfella]

My local boating services officer a few years back hated them..... and paid them some attention. He'd had to attend a fatal with one... the guy thought he'd make it under the ferry wire. He didn't.

[Hal Forsen]

[McMike]

deepest apologies

but I was a bit angry at the ignorant swine

Dylan

I don't think ignorance accounts for it. They know full well what they're doing . . .

[Bobcat]

A slingshot with a paint filled ping pong ball might be in order or a well placed water balloon.

[sailnstink]

There are no bad boats, just bad people. I think it was MAIB that I stopped reading because the boat stories were filled with 'a perfect day ruined by a jetski/plastic yacht/someone using electricity for something/etc.' Spare me the crybaby stuff. No I don't have a PWC or a plastic boat, I simply won't bother the whining. And if your day can be ruined by someone else enjoying theirs you are weak.

[Willin']

And if your day can be ruined by someone else enjoying theirs you are weak.

Spoken like a cigar smoker.

[Portland]

So sailnstink reckons its ok to break every law on the water , run over and kill people , and thats ok , as long as you are having fun.
Yep , smells like a cigar smoker.
Rob J.

[Robbie 2]

There are no bad boats, just bad people. And if your day can be ruined by someone else enjoying theirs you are weak.

Sorry but i can't let this post stand alone.....
I have no problems with jet ski's/plastic yachts etc..............BUT your last sentence is nonsense.
If someone can only "enjoy their day" by being total idiots and "ruin your day" in the process it is not "weak" to protest.
If these people went off and found somewhere to have their fun alone or together with out bothering other people that would be fine.
However in my experience. they can only "enjoy their day" when crashing through waves occupied by swimmers/kayakers/canoeists etc or buzzing around boats that are anchored up trying to fish. To "enjoy their day" THEY NEED AN AUDIENCE!!!!!
I enjoy fly and/or lure type fishing and I have lost count of the times that I have been quietly casting near a reef system being especially careful to not make noise etc in the boat, only to have some JERK come along in a jet ski........circle the the boat just out of casting range several times at full speed then slow down to stop, again out of casting range, and ask me "Hows the fishing"?
My unprintable reply and suggestion as to what they should do has universally being received with laughter/hand gestures or some such stupidity.
Followed of course by another couple of circles around the boat before they leave to find someone else to annoy.

[skuthorp]

A slingshot with a paint filled ping pong ball might be in order or a well placed water balloon.

Nowhere near permanent enough. I take the view that we are a feral species and a selective cull might do a lot of good. Who decides is of course the problem.

Maybe the climate will.

[Portland]

Its especially good when the Water Police make their (infrequent) visits here.
They not only bring a fast offshore boat , but also a couple of jetski's.
And by their example , yes , they can be unobtrusive , not a problem at all .They can move about the fishing boats carefully and quietly , and check licences , and equipment on boats etc. And weed out the boozers.
The idiots though in their jet ski's , pack up and leave . If they can't be their usual obnoxious selves , well , where is the fun ?.
I hope this latest death brings about some law reform , in the use of jet ski's . It looks as though they will be completely banned in Hobsons bay , where the poor bloke was run over by the idiot on his jet ski.
I'd like to see them banned from Portland Harbour too. They could launch from Wally's ramp , a couple of km's away , but what would be the fun there , its only used by fishermen.
And if they decide to be idiots with the fishermen off Wally's ramp , they might have a reception party , when they come back in . Its isolated out there , who knows what might happen.
Rob J.

[sailnstink]

Sad. Such prejudice and intolerance. If someone made similar proclamations about a racial minority based on the behavior of some of them, they would be rightly thrashed. Advocating violence against a population because of individual behavior, disappointing and troubling.

[Portland]

What a wanker Stink , what a wanker you are.
Rob J.

[RFNK]

Rob, there's a simple rule: don't feed the troll.

Rick

[Portland]

Yes , I know Rick , but I just had to call him/her out.
I wrote of my concern recently with a jet skier at Portland , screaming around little kids that were testing out their snorkel gear they got for Christmas.
The poor mothers were trying to herd the kids away from the jet skier , but that was impossible , as he was swerving every which way along the beach.
I went out of the beach on my tender , but I rowed well clear of them before I started the outboard.
The jet skier took a perverse delight in worrying the poor mothers sick , about the same mentality as a wanker that would come on to a thread just to cause trouble.
Anyway , thats it for me , I'm off.
Rob J.

[Hal Forsen]

[Sailor]

HA, The Panty Dropper? LOL

[Portland]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/australian-...pected-boater/ .
Rob J.

[fishrswim]

I'm thinking that one of those paint ball guns might discourage that type of behavior. I was seriously considering getting one for our local "Bayliner" crowd who delight in "waking" those of us in displacement boats. A few years back a couple of our local yahoos were cruising together in their Bayliners up in the Gulf Islands and decided to do a double wake job on a sailboat they were coming up on. So they sped up and passed closely on either side of this unsuspecting sailor. But just as they were laughing their asses off the larger of the two (45') ran hard aground on the rocks, putting a hole in the hull and ending their fun. Poetic justice.

BTW up here in the great PNW, PWCs aren't allowed in the San Juan Islands. The county ordinance has been in effect for several years now. Seems to be working just fine.

[Hal Forsen]

I'm thinking that one of those paint ball guns might discourage that type of behavior........

If you want to go that route you ought to go all the way........



Less Lethal Live Rounds (chili pepper filled ball) (Bottle of 100)
http://www.rap4.com/store/paintball/...all-pod-of-100

[SamSam]

I read a long time ago that if you chop up one of those plastic floating ropes in small pieces like an inch or so, and then spread a bunch of the floating filaments in the water in front of pwcs, the filaments get sucked into the pump and melt and quickly decommission the things. I don't know if there would be collateral damage to other types of boats or even if it works, but if terrorists on pwcs are threatening national homeland security, it might be worth a try.

[WX]

It's ski boats that are the problem on our river which is why I'm launching on a week day.