20ft. Freighter Canoe build in Alaska

[Oyster]

hoist and cradle frame complete, i will turn her over tomorrow
http://s1212.photobucket.com/albums/...ghter%20canoe/
1 new photo

[Tim Marchetti]

Thanks Tim,
Can any body tell me what the approximate minimum steam bend radius for 3/4" thick yellow cedar would be?

Here is a link which has some good information on steam bending
http://www.leevalley.com/en/html/05F1501ie.pdf

[Oyster]

Here is a link which has some good information on steam bending
http://www.leevalley.com/en/html/05F1501ie.pdf

Thanks tim

[Oyster]

got her flipped and stripped
http://s1212.photobucket.com/albums/...ghter%20canoe/
7 new photos

[Tim Marchetti]

As the kids would say, "dude you must be stoked"

[Oyster]

Some might argue,but I am pretty sure I can see water under It.

[Tim Marchetti]

Some might argue,but I am pretty sure I can see water under It.

I see it too. I ability to see it comes from living in the frozen north.

[Oyster]

inside scraped and rough sanded.
2 new photos
http://s1212.photobucket.com/albums/...ghter%20canoe/

[Tim Marchetti]

Royce, you can copy and paste your pictures if you want to show them here.

[gstanfield]

What are those rows of dark dots I see?

[Oyster]

What are those rows of dark dots I see?

George,
Those are epoxy plugs for drilling through to screw hdpe rub strakes to.
On the inside of the hull there will be a keelson and stringers over them for screwing to.
With that said has anybody tapped threads in thickened epoxy?
Or how about casting them into the epoxy?
My thought was to over bore and epoxy plug the the keelson and stringers, then drill and tap.
I thought I would use 5/16" countersunk ss nc machine screws to bolt the strakes on.

[Oyster]

Royce, you can copy and paste your pictures if you want to show them here.

Tim,
I do not know how.
How about a lesson?

[Tim Marchetti]

Open the picture on photobucket, then right click on the picture and select copy, then paste it on the forum by right clicking here and selecting paste.
Buda Bing Bada Boom!

[Oyster]

Open the picture on photobucket, then right click on the picture and select copy, then paste it on the forum by right clicking here and selecting paste.
Buda Bing Bada Boom!

let us try it

[Oyster]

more time
saturation coat.

[Oyster]

again saturation

[Oyster]

the pictures show up on the reply,but as soon as i post they turn into blue squares with question marks.

[Oyster]

http://s1212.photobucket.com/albums/...ghter%20canoe/
inside epoxy saturated
4 new photos

[Tim Marchetti]

Not sure why your pictures aren't showing, but the boat is looking great.

[jsjpd1]

Try this, open the picture in photobucket. To the right of the picture is a box with links in it. Click on the link next to IMG Code, when you click it it will say copied. Then paste the link directly into the reply box here on the forum.

[Oyster]

let us try this
screw holes plugged

[Oyster]

success
thank you jsjpd1

[Oyster]

hey jspd1,
it looks like you might be a sof fan,so here is a photo of a umiak i built last winter.
hollar if you would like to see more

[jsjpd1]

Very cool Oyster, looks like you have the bug! Plus a couple of very nice projects.

Jim

[Oyster]

Very cool Oyster, looks like you have the bug! Plus a couple of very nice projects.

Jim

Bug is putting it mildly,I think I could shake a heroin habit easier!!!
Thanks for the compliment
Royce

[Oyster]

transom fillet

[Oyster]

transom glassed

[Oyster]

transom knees epoxied

[Wavewacker]

Not only do I see water, but I see me in it motoring down the White River! Droll and slobber. Love'em!

[Oyster]

Not only do I see water, but I see me in it motoring down the White River! Droll and slobber. Love'em!

Hi wavewacker,
Can I get there from here?

[Wavewacker]

Absolutely! Take the Pacific to Panama, head east, up to the Gulf to the Mississippi, when you hit Arkansas, hang a left on the White River and head on up to Bull Shoals Lake, hop the dam and follow the White River to Tablerock Lake, nead north to the James River arm and head north, that will take you to Springfield Lake, hop the dam and head for the US Hwy 65 bridge, on the left (north), you'll see the Missouri Conservation area, head into the cove and go to the end and get out. Walk about 50 feet to the street and head up the hill to your left, I'm the 4th house on the right!

Come on down, I'd love to see your freighter!

[Oyster]

Absolutely! Take the Pacific to Panama, head east, up to the Gulf to the Mississippi, when you hit Arkansas, hang a left on the White River and head on up to Bull Shoals Lake, hop the dam and follow the White River to Tablerock Lake, nead north to the James River arm and head north, that will take you to Springfield Lake, hop the dam and head for the US Hwy 65 bridge, on the left (north), you'll see the Missouri Conservation area, head into the cove and go to the end and get out. Walk about 50 feet to the street and head up the hill to your left, I'm the 4th house on the right!

Come on down, I'd love to see your freighter!

Duck soup
I better start saving my lunch money.
Royce

[Wavewacker]

Just let me know when ya shov'off, I'll put the coffee on for ya!

It is kinda cool thinking that being so far inland that I can (in theroy) walk a few hundred feet to the water and go any where costal in the world...LOL

[Oyster]

1st layer inside fiberglass

[gstanfield]

Looking great, way to keep pluggin along!

BTW, how thick are the strips on this boat?

[Oyster]

bow inwale bending jig

[Oyster]

Looking great, way to keep pluggin along!

BTW, how thick are the strips on this boat?

thanks george,
design calls for 1/2"
i think mine were closer to 9/16"

[jsjpd1]

Are you going to fit a breasthook first Royce?

Jim

[Oyster]

Are you going to fit a breasthook first Royce?

Jim

howdy jim,
my thought was to bend and dry fit the inwale first so i can scribe the breasthook to it.
royce

[jsjpd1]

Seems reasonable enough. I've never run an inwale around the breasthook like that before, is that how it's drawn in the plans?

[Oyster]

Seems reasonable enough. I've never run an inwale around the breasthook like that before, is that how it's drawn in the plans?

Jim,
The plans show a standard plywood breasthook and inwale.
My thought was to run scuppered inwales and have the last scupper block run from stem to 4" past of where the inwale
radius meets the scupper block. The scupper block would also taper from 3/4" to 1/4"at the stem. Does any of that make a lick of sense?

[jsjpd1]

Hey Royce.
I think I was with you until you started talking about tapering the scupper block at the stem. If I was going to do it I think I would leave the scupper blocks all the same and just match the breasthook to the inwale you're working on. Are you planing on skipping the breasthook all together?
Jim

[Oyster]

Hey Royce.
I think I was with you until you started talking about tapering the scupper block at the stem. If I was going to do it I think I would leave the scupper blocks all the same and just match the breasthook to the inwale you're working on. Are you planing on skipping the breasthook all together?
Jim

Jim,
All of the scupper blocks will be 3/4"thick x 4" long except the last one coming into the stem which will be around 16" long tapering from 3/4" to 1/4" at the stem. The in and outwales are 1" thick, given that I felt that tapering that piece might have somewhat of a slimming affect to the whole bow. The other thing I have not talked of is I will cut the breast hook to allow a man to reach in and have hand hold around the inwale. Kind of hard to explain. None of this even remotely resembles tradition that I have seen,but what got all of this started was functional handholds that are flush and non snagging. I do not know if any of this clear, if not I will be working on some of this next week and will post photos.
Thanks for the input
Royce

[Tim Marchetti]

Looking good Royce. Are you working alone?
I would love to see more pictures of the umiak. Did you record the build?

[Oyster]

Looking good Royce. Are you working alone?
I would love to see more pictures of the umiak. Did you record the build?

Thanks tim,
For the most part I have been working alone,but some of the boys showed up for some of the stripping and cloth wet out,which is a huge help to have someone mixing resin while I spread it.
I will post a link for the umiak photos.

[Oyster]

http://s1212.photobucket.com/albums/...tion%20photos/

here is some build photos of the umiak
enjoy
royce

[Tim Marchetti]

Thanks Royce. That looks like it must have been a fun build

[Oyster]

Thanks Royce. That looks like it must have been a fun build

2nd layer glass
yes tim,
very fun build.
of the boats i have built this is by far the most satisfying to build and paddle.
it was funny,when i told my wife i was going to build another boat i got the stink eye and then was told it needed to hold the whole family.
well now there is 15 of us,so i thought how about a umiak.
i am glad my garage is not any longer than it is,i would have had a 35 footer instead a 25 footer!!!
say the word and i will post some action photos.
royce

[Sailor]

The word!

[Oyster]

The word!

http://s1212.photobucket.com/albums/...iden%20voyage/
here you go sailer
maiden voyage