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    Imagine getting that upright and re loaded.
    The definition of stupid has got to be the belief that more guns will negate the bloodshed done with guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post

    Imagine getting that upright and re loaded.
    The first part being easier than the second.... but time was cheap
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    I was actually looking for that classic black soil plains photo of the wagon overturned in the mud but found that one instead.
    The definition of stupid has got to be the belief that more guns will negate the bloodshed done with guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WX View Post
    I was actually looking for that classic black soil plains photo of the wagon overturned in the mud but found that one instead.
    This one? I grew up with this framed on my wall, one of my favourite prints and I still have it in storage somewhere. As a young bloke I used to spend a lot of my school holidays working on a station up at Mossgiel, just north of Booligal (of Hay, Hell and Booligal fame) and the guy looking to the left of the photo was the father (or grandfather - I can't remember) of the guy I used to work for - Bootlace (Eric Huntly)

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    I think that lot are in the union.... working to rule

    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Hmmm

    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Ha! Just got an email from the Missus... bitchin' and moanin' about having to scrape ice off the windscreen of my car this morning with her fingernails. I'd told her to take a sickie..... which she never does. I should point out... she bitches and moans about various workmates of hers (all of whom I have noticed, were born overseas).... who take every one of their allotted 20 or so days a year. Entitlements, you know.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    In William Howitt's Two Years in Victoria, two volumes long out of print I think, there's an account of a badly bogged wagon on the way to the Mt William goldfields being defended with firearms and savage dogs from those who would steal the load. Holed up on top of the load behind a parapet of sacks. It was a much rougher place than our bowdlerised history ever told us in school.

    Our wagon still in place but I got a lot of pics, drawings and measurements today. Timber is mostly hardwood and mostly redgum. Wheels are a problem being jammed on the axles at present and will not turn easily. I wish the pic of the overturned wagon was clearer as I will have to replace a lot of the undercart. I may be able to get a drawing from the state library.
    Next process after todays survey is to do a 'business case' as the vehicle is not historically connected to either the area or the sort of farming carried out. There is a dray, and we know they had a couple, in as bad nick that would be easier and cheaper to rebuild, it's beyond conservation or preservation.

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    Will you have trouble finding timber of the dimensions you'll need Jeff ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skuthorp View Post
    In William Howitt's Two Years in Victoria, two volumes long out of print I think, there's an account of a badly bogged wagon on the way to the Mt William goldfields being defended with firearms and savage dogs from those who would steal the load. Holed up on top of the load behind a parapet of sacks. It was a much rougher place than our bowdlerised history ever told us in school.

    Our wagon still in place but I got a lot of pics, drawings and measurements today. Timber is mostly hardwood and mostly redgum. Wheels are a problem being jammed on the axles at present and will not turn easily. I wish the pic of the overturned wagon was clearer as I will have to replace a lot of the undercart. I may be able to get a drawing from the state library.
    Next process after todays survey is to do a 'business case' as the vehicle is not historically connected to either the area or the sort of farming carried out. There is a dray, and we know they had a couple, in as bad nick that would be easier and cheaper to rebuild, it's beyond conservation or preservation.

    A business case? That's pure porn to us economic dries.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    These may be of interest to someone..... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bronze-co...item4d35fd745a

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    I'm not having much joy finding transport down here. My daughters CBR125R that I've been borrowing has to be returned so I'm looking for a cheap replacement, either a car or another bike or scooter. Disappointed that my $2K doesn't seem adequate to buy something that actually runs
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bigfella View Post
    A business case? That's pure porn to us economic dries.
    It's going to cost money, and I may coordinate and do the research, but I cannot do the blacksmithing, or some of the woodwork without access to much bigger machinery than I have Which means of course a expense. I have no intention of starting this rebuild, and it will be from the axles up, without the authority and a budget. A 'business case' The curator, the volunteer society and the State Parks who own and manage the island.
    I have been at them for some time and wrote a submission a year ago. The decision to move it to a shelter was the farm manager's and connected to an archaeological survey. If the Park does the work well and good, if it's the volunteers project what I said above applies.
    OTOH they could just give me a job……….

    Peter, re the timber. Seems to be mostly red gum and a eucalypt of some sort. I'll need slabs of 4cm x 4m+ just for the wagon bed if I can't salvage what's there. Haven't explored that at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemoffatt View Post
    Do you have a contact at Goolwa? Given the state of political rorting of travel, I think a research trip further than Goolwa would be out of the question. Council would have to sponsor some of the costs for a longer trip, but I could afford to get to Goolwa.
    Here's the Slipway's brochure with contact details.
    http://www.alexandrina.sa.gov.au/web...p_Brochure.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemoffatt View Post
    I'm not having much joy finding transport down here. My daughters CBR125R that I've been borrowing has to be returned so I'm looking for a cheap replacement, either a car or another bike or scooter. Disappointed that my $2K doesn't seem adequate to buy something that actually runs
    Look for a Mazda 323 or ford laser. Fairly bullet proof and plenty to be had for under $1000.00 try to get one with aircon that works. Good tyres and some rego is handy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Look for a Mazda 323 or ford laser. Fairly bullet proof and plenty to be had for under $1000.00 try to get one with aircon that works. Good tyres and some rego is handy too.
    We inherited a Laser around the time I started commuting on the train. I used to drive it through the Gorge every day.... and I reckon it's still the fastest thing I've taken through there, including bikes and the M5. Handbrake turns on the hairpins.... nice drifts on the others. Loved it. Don't drive like that, now that I'm all growed up and there's a 60 kph limit through there.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    Someone here (Matt??) suggested a little while ago Subaru Liberty. Opinions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucemoffatt View Post
    Someone here (Matt??) suggested a little while ago Subaru Liberty. Opinions?

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    Depends what you want to do with it. We've got a Subaru Outback we'll be selling soon, but not in that price range. They are based on the Liberty. Good cars, but doesn't suit the Missus with her mobility issues. She can get in and out of the X5 much easier. They are reasonably economical, go anywhere. Lots of parts available... Subaru don't make changes for the sake of changes... you could keep throwing engines and gearboxes out of any of them at it for decades. For example, we've got WRX brakes on ours.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Yep. That was me. Got one. The body's a bit rough, but it's a great car (and I usually stick with Toyotas and Mazdas). I paid $3k for a 1995 4wd wagon with the works, and 2.5l motor.
    As long as they've been well serviced it seems like they'll last a long, long time.
    Mine has 250,000km on and still feels solid and good to drive.

    My criteria when looking were; wagon. manual, Toyota Mazda or Sube, ~$3k. I reckon I got a lotta car for my $3k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattSplatt View Post
    Yep. That was me. Got one. The body's a bit rough, but it's a great car (and I usually stick with Toyotas and Mazdas). I paid $3k for a 1995 4wd wagon with the works, and 2.5l motor.
    As long as they've been well serviced it seems like they'll last a long, long time.
    Mine has 250,000km on and still feels solid and good to drive.

    My criteria when looking were; wagon. manual, Toyota Mazda or Sube, ~$3k. I reckon I got a lotta car for my $3k.

    A mate's got an older one than that... an RS Turbo Liberty. He just uses it on the track now... and he reckons its about 10 seconds quicker around Winton than my M5. I know I was quicker than all WRX's, but for a pair of very hot STi's at Wakefield.... so they can get up and go, if you want.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    I think you'd pay more for a Subie than a Mazda of similar age and condition. Good cars though. And quite a bit better for towing the little boat if you get a 4wd. Even the old Leone wagon is a tough little beastie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    I think you'd pay more for a Subie than a Mazda of similar age and condition. Good cars though. And quite a bit better for towing the little boat if you get a 4wd. Even the old Leone wagon is a tough little beastie.
    I've got a couple of Leone turbo engines here.... one in the back of a Beetle.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    The backpackers love them. There are quite a few on offer in the $2k to $3k range under 20 years old and in the low to mid 200k kms. Some obviously junk, but others maybe worth a look. I SMSed someone local for a browse but it looks like it has gone already. I think there's a timing beltvreplacement thing that can be costly to do and tragic if not. Anyone know if it's a home maintenance prospect?

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    Subaru's have a good reputation Bruce, and the Liberty wasn't a cheap car when new.

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    I would do the timing belt myself, but it depends on your experience level, I guess. My Outback is chain-driven (its a H6, not a 4)... so it isn't an issue, but IIRC, the belt is a 100,000 km replacement.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Stepson has a fleet of Subarus, some working, some not, that he rotates bits between so as to keep d-i-l and family on the road. Does most of his own servicing (but he's pretty mechanically-minded. He's right out in the bush, so it's important.)

    Jenn has had a series of new Liberties on three-year leases for as long as I've known her. Bloody nice cars to drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooden Boat Fittings View Post
    Stepson has a fleet of Subarus, some working, some not, that he rotates bits between so as to keep d-i-l and family on the road. Does most of his own servicing (but he's pretty mechanically-minded. He's right out in the bush, so it's important.)

    Jenn has had a series of new Liberties on three-year leases for as long as I've known her. Bloody nice cars to drive.

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    But the seats are crappy, and both the door trim and the tunnel trim dig into my leg where the metal plate is.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Timing belts/chains are fairly major surgery Bruce. If the front struts were a challenge, a timing belt or chain would probably not be a wise thing to start in on. Not impossible by any means, but there are some opportunities to screw up fairly badly along the way. And access is pretty tight. A hoist would be a significant asset. If your budget has gone up to around 3k I'd def be looking at Mazdas around the same price. You'll get lower mileage and better condition and and a nicer overall drive. It's one of those things where the Subie is a better car, but at any given price point you are going to get a better Mazda/Laser.

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    +1 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Y View Post
    Timing belts/chains are fairly major surgery Bruce. If the front struts were a challenge, a timing belt or chain would probably not be a wise thing to start in on. Not impossible by any means, but there are some opportunities to screw up fairly badly along the way. And access is pretty tight. A hoist would be a significant asset. If your budget has gone up to around 3k I'd def be looking at Mazdas around the same price. You'll get lower mileage and better condition and and a nicer overall drive. It's one of those things where the Subie is a better car, but at any given price point you are going to get a better Mazda/Laser.
    It won't be a chain unless it's the six. Access to Subie engine is good. Line up the timing marks. do it. Check the marks. Good to go. Mazda and Fords don't age anywhere near as well as the Subie.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

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    The thing that can get you a bargain is noisy CV joints. If you take a car for a test drive and it makes a click click click noise while turning on full lock, that's them. Just make a really low ball offer. They are cheap to buy and a relative doddle to change. But you do have to mess with the front suspension and steering a bit, which means it's good to get a proper wheel alignment done afterwards. Otherwise you may chew through your tyres a bit quick.

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    I suggest Bruce should pay Phil to find him a car. Then Bruce will have a good car, Phil will be rewarded and we can all get back to talking about boats.

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    If you can source parts at trade price it's a great saving. Eg I got a litre of brake fluid the other day. Good brand. $8.38.

    Also, sourced special auto trans fluid for less than half best eBay prices by getting from the manufacturer.
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFNK View Post
    I suggest Bruce should pay Phil to find him a car. Then Bruce will have a good car, Phil will be rewarded and we can all get back to talking about boats.

    Rick
    You miss that teacher's authority, eh?
    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome and charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime" Mark Twain... so... Carpe the living sh!t out of the Diem

    I'd rather look back at my life and say "I can't believe I did that" instead of being there saying "I wish I'd done that"

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    If you want to change the cambelt yourself, there are often step by step videos on youtube that can be a great help.
    There is nothing quite as permanent as a good temporary repair.

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